Warcodered Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 3:03 AM, Happy said: The Pats needed to win that game to get a bye and bypass the Wildcard round. You best believe that NE wanted to win that game against Miami. Being in the SB 2 out of 3 years has nothing to do with anything, sounds like another excuse for McDermott. Expand So are you saying the Patriots were just as talented this year as the 2 previous years?
Happy Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) On 6/30/2020 at 3:07 AM, Warcodered said: So are you saying the Patriots were just as talented this year as the 2 previous years? Expand I didn't say that. I just said that has nothing to do with anything. You have to beat the Patriots when you play them, how they were a year or two years or ten years ago is immaterial. In 2019 both Miami and Buffalo had to play NE twice. Buffalo was 0-2, Miami was 1-1, that says all you need to know. Stop making excuses for McDermott's inability to dethrone them. Edited June 30, 2020 by Happy
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 Cam Newton had multiple seasons similar to Josh Allen's 2019. Most similar were Cam's 2014 and 2017. I did not realize how similar these would be. Maybe the Patriots staff gets more production from Cam and maybe Josh is ascending but this is certainly interesting.
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) On 6/30/2020 at 4:15 AM, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? Expand The media believes he’s going to be much better on the Pats than he was on the Panthers Edited June 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio
cle23 Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 11:18 AM, YoloinOhio said: The media believes he’s going to be much better on the Pats than he was on the Panthers Expand I think that, and they think he'll finally be healthy. Now, staying healthy is another issue. When healthy, Newton is above average to great, depending on the year. 1
Greg S Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 4:15 AM, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? Expand When it comes to NE I am more concerned with Allen and the offense against Belichick and their defense. If the Bills can hold their own in this matchup then they should be 1-1 and maybe even 2-0. The Bills defense will be fine against the Pats offense no matter who the QB is. Also ST and who wins the turnover battle play a part as well obviously but the Bills O vs the Pats D is the key matchup in these games
Don Otreply Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 4:15 AM, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? Expand Because sports media made up some crap that football nerds decided to believe. Go Bills!!!
Motor26 Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 Regardless of if there QB is Cam, was Brady still, or ends up being Stidham. The Bills still need to find a way to beat the Pats. With the roster they have constructed, if Allen takes another leap, they should at least split.
Back2Buff Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 11:27 AM, cle23 said: I think that, and they think he'll finally be healthy. Now, staying healthy is another issue. When healthy, Newton is above average to great, depending on the year. Expand There have been plenty of years were Cam has been healthy and not great. He is just an average QB with injury issues.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 10:48 PM, vincec said: He was and apparently is a very polarizing QB, much like our own Josh Allen Expand Agree to a certain extent. However as someone who is skeptical of Allen, it has close to the resume of Cam (Heisman, National champ, rookie passing records, MVP, SB), I would be fighting people arguing how good he has been. Those Auburn and that Panthers SB team were not that good. He carried them. On 6/29/2020 at 10:50 PM, John from Riverside said: Not when they have been beat to ***** like Cam Newton has and given the TYPE of QB he is....this is not ultra accurate the ball out instantly Tom Brady we are talking about....this is take huge hits hasnt played well in 3 years Cam Newton I probably have years of football on you.....your takes are aweful So you think he is going to change his game? Expand He completed 68% of his passes two years ago and was having the best passing season of his career.
Chicken Boo Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 6:27 PM, inaugural balls said: Did I miss all the other offers? Expand Perhaps. None of us are in Newton's inner circle.
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 2:03 PM, Chicken Boo said: Perhaps. None of us are in Newton's inner circle. Expand
ExWNYer Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 Now that he is in NE*, it will be interesting to see if Newton is protected by the refs and the league like Brady was. He took some brutal on field hits while in Carolina where no flag was (and should have been) thrown and that Brady never would have had to endure. He should benefit with an upgraded offensive line now but, if the league continues to look the other way while defenses light him up, he may be out of the league sooner rather than later. Either way, he'll have his hands full as there are no defensive stiffs in the AFC East, unlike the NFC South.
BuffaloMatt Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 10:02 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Peyton Manning the first year with the Broncos would disagree. One year removed from neck surgery he put up amazing numbers and went to the SB. He was a shell of himself 24 months later. Expand One guy is an outlier. Name another.
4merper4mer Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 12:53 AM, Mr. WEO said: Edited for accuracy! Expand Pats pot meet Bills kettle.
Chicken Boo Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 2:10 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand I like Schefter and think he's credible, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the only other team to contact him was the Browns.
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 2:34 PM, Chicken Boo said: I like Schefter and think he's credible, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the only other team to contact him was the Browns. Expand I don’t find it that hard to believe. Beane said back when he got cut that they didn’t even put a call in knowing that he wanted to start, which he said they respected. I assume his agent told all 31 teams he wanted to start, so that narrowed it down considerably. Then it’s a matter of whether you need a starter. At the time that he was cut, many teams had already signed FAs to come in to start like Tampa and others were waiting until the draft to determine their plans. Those that drafted guys like LAC probably want a different type of vet in place that doesn’t threaten the rookie. There just weren’t any seats left that fit both his interests and the team needs. The one that i find interesting is Jags not being involved, but that could be a straight up tank job this year. 2
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 I think the injury and surgery are more problematic than others. Lisfranc can linger much longer and if it impacts his ability to run he may not be near as valuable. 2
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