SoTier Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 April 27, 2020 56,502 deaths from Covid 19 - WH Coronavirus Task Force gives public briefing on corona virus June 1, 2020 98,536 deaths from Covid 19 - "Had long planned to have the Republican National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, a place I love. Now, @NC_Governor Roy Cooper and his representatives refuse to guarantee that we can have use of the Spectrum Arena. ... Governor Cooper is still in Shelter-In-Place Mode, and not allowing us to occupy the arena as originally anticipated and promised. Would have showcased beautiful North Carolina to the World, and brought in hundreds of millions of dollars, and jobs, for the State." -- Donald Trump June 25, 2020 121,809 deaths from Covid 19 - "If we didn't do testing, we'd have no cases" -- Donald Trump June 26, 2020 124,325 deaths from Covid-19 - WH Coronavirus Tast Force gives first public briefing on corona virus since April 27 - 11 states, including Texas and Florida, have paused or rolled back openings - US set a record high in covid 19 cases in a single day -- more than 44,000 - "As we stand here today, all 50 states and territories are opening, and safely and responsibly" -- Mike Pence - "We did slow the spread. We flattened the curve" - Mike Pence 2
Reality Check Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) If only Emperor Xi was our president. We need to be more like China. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/satellite-images-show-major-chinese-troop-expansion-site-india-border-clash In China we trust. Edited June 27, 2020 by Reality Check
Chef Jim Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 Here’s the funny thing. Had he demanded all Americans follow a strict protocol as opposed to leaving it up to the states it would have been cries of “see he IS a dictator!!!” 5
Warren Zevon Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Here’s the funny thing. Had he demanded all Americans follow a strict protocol as opposed to leaving it up to the states it would have been cries of “see he IS a dictator!!!” It would have been the right thing to do. Stop worrying about what people think of the president and start worrying about the fate of the country. 2
Reality Check Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: It would have been the right thing to do. Stop worrying about what people think of the president and start worrying about the fate of the country. I happen to like COVID 19. It is destroying globalism and exposing China better than any president ever could. Thank you China. We could not have destroyed globalism without you. I couldn't be happier. 1 1
Chef Jim Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: It would have been the right thing to do. Stop worrying about what people think of the president and start worrying about the fate of the country. The fate of the country.... 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) The story of Covid 19 evolves with each new chapter, however the deeper into it we get the less it has ANYTHING to do with President Trump. The federal government did its part. The initial attack was repelled, systems were put in place, guidelines and testing protocols established, PPE equipment and ventilators manufactured, curves flattened, and deaths greatly reduced. This is now squarely a State by State and really a County by County issue. Edited June 27, 2020 by SoCal Deek 3 3
SoTier Posted June 27, 2020 Author Posted June 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Reality Check said: I happen to like COVID 19. It is destroying globalism and exposing China better than any president ever could. Thank you China. We could not have destroyed globalism without you. I couldn't be happier. So, the 124,000 Americans who have died from Covid 19 and the approxiamtely 25-30 million Americans who have lost their jobs or the million of Americans who have lost their small businesses because of the pandemic are just "collateral damage" in a "war" against policies you don't like? 2
SoCal Deek Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, SoTier said: So, the 124,000 Americans who have died from Covid 19 and the approxiamtely 25-30 million Americans who have lost their jobs or the million of Americans who have lost their small businesses because of the pandemic are just "collateral damage" in a "war" against policies you don't like? 30 million Americans did not lose their jobs due to Covid 19. They lost their jobs due to some really clumsy orders from state government officials. 1 2
TH3 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The story of Covid 19 evolves with each new chapter, however the deeper into it we get the less it has ANYTHING to do with President Trump. The federal government did its part. The initial attack was repelled, systems were put in place, guidelines and testing protocols established, PPE equipment and ventilators manufactured, curves flattened, and deaths greatly reduced. This is now squarely a State by State and really a County by County issue. This is so interesting to me....when you type these words....do you actually believe them? "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said 2
Reality Check Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, SoTier said: So, the 124,000 Americans who have died from Covid 19 and the approxiamtely 25-30 million Americans who have lost their jobs or the million of Americans who have lost their small businesses because of the pandemic are just "collateral damage" in a "war" against policies you don't like? Sorry buddy, but none of this is my fault. Feel free to defend China if you want. You don't hold them responsible for anything. 1
Paulus Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Here’s the funny thing. Had he demanded all Americans follow a strict protocol as opposed to leaving it up to the states it would have been cries of “see he IS a dictator!!!” He should have at least called for some sort of coordination between the states, that way he'd at least be seen as a semi-competent leader. 33 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: 30 million Americans did not lose their jobs due to Covid 19. They lost their jobs due to some really clumsy orders from state government officials. So Trump could avoid blame? 1
3rdnlng Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Paulus said: He should have at least called for some sort of coordination between the states, that way he'd at least be seen as a semi-competent leader. He did. His task force worked with the states on a daily basis. The task force couldn't demand but they could advise and that's what they did.
Paulus Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: He did. His task force worked with the states on a daily basis. The task force couldn't demand but they could advise and that's what they did. Yeah, his task force also had major influence from the guy that wanted to open up (Trump), without forethought. They should have either let the herd immunity thing flow, or take the Wuhan seriously. They are half-assing both. To you 3rdnlng, wouldn't it have been better if Trump actually called out the states doing what they want? He called out the liberal states, who wanted to remain closed, and said they were trying to crash the economy. His leadership has been pathetic during this pandemic. It is inarguable. Why not demand Governors form all 50 states meet, if your so determined to place blame on them, for any of the fallout, if bad? Sorry, man. Federal and state governments need to work together to fight a pandemic. Trump exhibited NO leadershop skill, and is still blaming high number on high testing. Loved his rally, and loved the liberal governors and mayor encouraging protests and riots... The EU banned Americans because of our leadership, or serious lack thereof. 3 1
3rdnlng Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Yeah, his task force also had major influence from the guy that wanted to open up (Trump), without forethought. They should have either let the herd immunity thing flow, or take the Wuhan seriously. They are half-assing both. To you 3rdnlng, wouldn't it have been better if Trump actually called out the states doing what they want? He called out the liberal states, who wanted to remain closed, and said they were trying to crash the economy. His leadership has been pathetic during this pandemic. It is inarguable. Why not demand Governors form all 50 states meet, if your so determined to place blame on them, for any of the fallout, if bad? Sorry, man. Federal and state governments need to work together to fight a pandemic. Trump exhibited NO leadershop skill, and is still blaming high number on high testing. Loved his rally, and loved the liberal governors and mayor encouraging protests and riots... The EU banned Americans because of our leadership, or serious lack thereof. You are wrong. Trump jumped all over Governor Kemp of Georgia for opening up Beauty Salons and other close contact retail stores in what Trump thought was too early. You're pretty cocky for someone so ill informed.
Penfield45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The story of Covid 19 evolves with each new chapter, however the deeper into it we get the less it has ANYTHING to do with President Trump. The federal government did its part. The initial attack was repelled, systems were put in place, guidelines and testing protocols established, PPE equipment and ventilators manufactured, curves flattened, and deaths greatly reduced. This is now squarely a State by State and really a County by County issue. except it didn't do its part the Federal gov thought the whole pandemic was a hoax. do you not remember? their failure to take quick action is the reason why we are the worst country to deal with this in the world. 1
Reality Check Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: except it didn't do its part the Federal gov thought the whole pandemic was a hoax. do you not remember? their failure to take quick action is the reason why we are the worst country to deal with this in the world. What is your definition of the whole federal government? All 17 "official" intelligence agencies? We have over 660 federal bureaucracies. They all thought it was a hoax too? What about China's role in all of this? Do they get a free pass? 1
Penfield45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Reality Check said: What is your definition of the whole federal government? All 17 "official" intelligence agencies? We have over 660 federal bureaucracies. They all thought it was a hoax too? What about China's role in all of this? Do they get a free pass? sorry I should clarify, the "white house" aka our president. 1
Reality Check Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: sorry I should clarify, the "white house" aka our president. You went from the whole federal government to the "White House". Good recovery. Out of our bloated 4.5 trillion dollar federal budget, which security agencies and bureaucracies are the first line of defense when it comes to defense from foreign biologicals?
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