GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Nah, I'm white knighting for reasoned, logic-driven reaction to situations instead of hysteria. Let's be clear: what you are doing is taking it upon yourself to cast aspersions on folks who reacted to a story and attributing to them some ill intent, rather than accepting them at face value. 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: I am glad that it finally came out as a false racist incidence. As I wrote in the other forum, It was always mystifying to me that these garage pulls were misinterpreted. NASCAR should have realized this immediately and not let it get this far. I appreciate what Gugny has repeated, That this is NOT Wallace's fault whatsoever, But I am afraid that the powers that be probably thought they could work on NASCAR's reputation (see the first three pages of this thread.) ADDED: I admitted when I was wrong, it is a shame that other posters cannot man up. . Please explain who in your mind should be 'manning up' 1
Just Jack Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Here's a decent write up... http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3858453/posts 1
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Foxx said: so... virtue signaling then? it's all i got at this point... Some would argue that calling another out for virtue signalling is an act of virtue signalling. While others would argue that virtue signalling is so over used and has strayed so far from its hazy origin that it has no particular meaning at this point. 2
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: ADDED: I admitted when I was wrong, it is a shame that other posters cannot man up. Who else reacted the way you did? It's funny that you're trying to justify it now...lol
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Some would argue that calling another out for virtue signalling is an act of virtue signalling. While others would argue that virtue signalling is so over used and has strayed so far from its hazy origin that it has no particular meaning at this point. lol. i tried to give him an out in the previous two posts, but then you knew that.
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Those people are part of a crowd that does that very thing constantly. Casting aspersions on anyone and anything remotely considered racist. This tweet summarizes my view on today's America: Your view on today's America is that supporting racial equality and free speech are the purview of the right wing? Or that it's weird that views and societies evolve over time?
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Here's a decent write up... http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3858453/posts Nice. Why was loop cut off, though? In the current picture. The author seems to stop short at the end. I feel like any curious investigator would want to know the circumstances around the noose being cut off and where it was placed... Edited June 23, 2020 by LeGOATski
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: It's that the left is illiberal, antidemocratic and hypocritical. Oh, they're VERY liberal... Hypocrisy and self-righteousness plague both sides. 2
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: It's that the left is illiberal, antidemocratic and hypocritical. I think if you knew me you would discover I am none of those things.
Rico Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Yeah, that's a very meh group. 5
Augie Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Despite it apparently being a false alarm, it’s VERY encouraging to see the level of support he received from all involved. I’ll take this as an unintended positive. Sometimes what looks like a bad thing turns out to really be a good thing. The sport was able to pivot quickly, make itself better and show a good example. . Edited June 23, 2020 by Augie 2 1
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: I'm not convinced. It's the left that adheres to speech and thought orthodoxy. Yeah, I doubt you would be. 1
Warcodered Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 It's good if this is just someone being an idiot and seeing something that wasn't there. I don't really change my opinion on the act as originally reported being something that'd be sad and stupid. It's great if it didn't happen some of the reactions/responses from the whole event not so much but it was good of NASCAR to stand with someone they thought was targeted. 1
Bill from NYC Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 12:41 PM, The Dean said: That's a pretty high bar for many here. Try not to get sunburn in your glass house. 1
Mark Vader Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Your view on today's America is that supporting racial equality and free speech are the purview of the right wing? Or that it's weird that views and societies evolve over time? Yet, is it really a result of evolving? Maybe it's always been that way and some never noticed.
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Mark Vader said: Yet, is it really a result of evolving? Maybe it's always been that way and some never noticed. What's always been what way?
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: You seem like a reasonable guy though, so perhaps not all is lost on that side of the aisle. I have more than a few friends who adhere to some really lefty thinking. I love them personally, even though they can be preachy. Honestly on most issues, I lean right, vote right. You wouldn't believe so by my posts in the PPP, but I just like calling out the bull#### and trying to create an actual discussion out of it. There just happen to be many more righties in that forum than lefties. I'll stop short there, since I don't want to make this thread political. 2
Mark Vader Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: What's always been what way? The view of racial equality and free speech.
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: The view of racial equality and free speech. Being the purview of the right? Obviously I disagree.
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 I've gone and read a few articles now that the FBI's investigation has concluded and this still seems weird to me... Not one article discusses why the rope was cut or where it was found. Where are the details? Maybe more will come out in time. If someone finds a detailed article please post here.
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