Warren Zevon Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This scared the crap out of me. It's a cult. No kidding. Trumpers are insane.
BillStime Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, GG said: Then do the hard work through the proper legislative steps, if you're not too busy dancing at the graves. If you believe DACA was proper through an EO, it should equally be proper to rescind through an EO. It's really too bad the GOP didn't take care of this when they controlled Congress. Imagine the statement that would make in uniting America, right?
BillStime Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This scared the crap out of me. It's a cult. I bet they loved their Trump socialist check! 1
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: It's really too bad the GOP didn't take care of this when they controlled Congress. Imagine the statement that would make in uniting America, right? Gee I wonder if there are people on this site who said that the failure to pass true immigration reform in 2007 was a huge error for GOP? 3
muppy Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 I don't wish covid-19 on anyone. But if Trump supporters want to attend and many get infected I will think well they signed the waiver. They actually signed a waiver saying you won't hold DT responsible if they get sick. So if they do its all on them and their decision to take that risk. Could end up being a Bad decision. If they Don't get sick great. But if they are indeed infected I just hope they don't then bring it home to immune compromised folks who didn't sign and had no say in the matter. If the attendees decided the risk was worth the attendance yeah its America. We have the right to smoke cigarettes and not exercise and become obese and its all their personal right but is it smart? At the time when upticks are happening in states that "opened up too early" i think any gatherings like this are a crapshoot of uncertainty as to just what will or won't happen. Its a similar dilemma with filling stadiums for sporting events but at least for football those are open air stadiums. I wouldnt put my health or potential health of my family in support of ANY candidate but that's me.
LB3 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Muppy said: I don't wish covid-19 on anyone. But if Trump supporters want to attend and many get infected I will think well they signed the waiver. They actually signed a waiver saying you won't hold DT responsible if they get sick. So if they do its all on them and their decision to take that risk. Could end up being a Bad decision. If they Don't get sick great. But if they are indeed infected I just hope they don't then bring it home to immune compromised folks who didn't sign and had no say in the matter. If the attendees decided the risk was worth the attendance yeah its America. We have the right to smoke cigarettes and not exercise and become obese and its all their personal right but is it smart? At the time when upticks are happening in states that "opened up too early" i think any gatherings like this are a crapshoot of uncertainty as to just what will or won't happen. Its a similar dilemma with filling stadiums for sporting events but at least for football those are open air stadiums. I wouldnt put my health or potential health of my family in support of ANY candidate but that's me. I wouldn't put the health of my family at risk just to burn down my friend's restaurant in the name of social justice, but that's just me. 4 1
Buftex Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This scared the crap out of me. It's a cult. At first glance, I thought this was a bunch of New England Patriots fans! 3
B-Man Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Buftex said: At first glance, I thought this was a bunch of New England Patriots fans! Now you're REALLY being insulting ! ? 1
muppy Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, LB3 said: I wouldn't put the health of my family at risk just to burn down my friend's restaurant in the name of social justice, but that's just me. total deflection from the topic at hand but I'm not surprised. 1
Warren Zevon Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buftex said: At first glance, I thought this was a bunch of New England Patriots fans! No doubt they are Pats fans too.
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Muppy said: I don't wish covid-19 on anyone. But if Trump supporters want to attend and many get infected I will think well they signed the waiver. They actually signed a waiver saying you won't hold DT responsible if they get sick. So if they do its all on them and their decision to take that risk. Could end up being a Bad decision. If they Don't get sick great. But if they are indeed infected I just hope they don't then bring it home to immune compromised folks who didn't sign and had no say in the matter. If the attendees decided the risk was worth the attendance yeah its America. We have the right to smoke cigarettes and not exercise and become obese and its all their personal right but is it smart? At the time when upticks are happening in states that "opened up too early" i think any gatherings like this are a crapshoot of uncertainty as to just what will or won't happen. Its a similar dilemma with filling stadiums for sporting events but at least for football those are open air stadiums. I wouldnt put my health or potential health of my family in support of ANY candidate but that's me. As discussed above, what's the difference of being around 18,000 in an indoor arena to support your political view as opposed to being around 100,000 people outdoors to support your political view? 3 2
Joe Miner Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: As discussed above, what's the difference of being around 18,000 in an indoor arena to support your political view as opposed to being around 100,000 people outdoors to support your political view? Obviously 1 is based on free speech and first amendment rights and the other is...uh....hmmm....Racist! 3
B-Man Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: As discussed above, what's the difference of being around 18,000 in an indoor arena to support your political view as opposed to being around 100,000 people outdoors to support your political view? Didn't you read the Left/Media statement about the rally.....................it's INSIDE !! That makes it a death trap ! All Americans should go outside as soon as possible.......................Wait a minute 2
muppy Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: As discussed above, what's the difference of being around 18,000 in an indoor arena to support your political view as opposed to being around 100,000 people outdoors to support your political view? ahem....a waiver saying that "if you get sick don't sue me"..Donald Trump. If there isnt a significant issue why have a waiver to start with? Besides that there is social distancing issues as well as air circulation inside an enclosed venue. 1
LB3 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Muppy said: total deflection from the topic at hand but I'm not surprised. It's actually quite relevant to the topic at hand. 2
muppy Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: Obviously 1 is based on free speech and first amendment rights and the other is...uh....hmmm....Racist! WAIVER someone please explain that for me..if so unnecessary or needless why have one?
Hedge Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 With 'eyes of the world' on Tulsa, police chief discusses plans to keep everyone safe Quote The Tulsa Police Department will have help from various agencies. Those include the Secret Service, FBI, Oklahoma Highway Patrol, potentially 250 National Guard troops, the Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office and other local law enforcement agencies in the area. ... Franklin said the National Guard would be used as a “force multiplier to help assist us in ramping up our numbers and securing a safety area for our city and our citizens.” 2
muppy Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: It's actually quite relevant to the topic at hand. BLEEP crickets on the waiver.....YEP no great explanation for that if no issue with the gathering huh.........**Thumbs UP* lol
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Muppy said: ahem....a waiver saying that "if you get sick don't sue me"..Donald Trump. If there isnt a significant issue why have a waiver to start with? Besides that there is social distancing issues as well as air circulation inside an enclosed venue. You can also look at it that the rally organizers recognize the transmission risks at the rally, while the protesters are encouraged to go all out despite nearly equal risks 3
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