plenzmd1 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Jaraxxus said: Yes, but a logical mind would assume that, say, 100k people outside should be roughly equivalent to 19k inside, no? i honestly don't think so, two different environments, may have two different outcomes. I am all for the rally for political reasons..protests okay (basically rallies for the left) Trump should be able to have his. Kicker for me is the scientific experiment that comes along as a bonus. 1
LB3 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i honestly don't think so, two different environments, may have two different outcomes. I am all for the rally for political reasons..protests okay (basically rallies for the left) Trump should be able to have his. Kicker for me is the scientific experiment that comes along as a bonus. I think the bolded is the most important part. Of course cases will go up, but if rate stays the same and hospitalizations don't become an issue, it will be the biggest possible win for him. Part of me thinks that's why so many are trying to prevent him from having it. It effectively ends Covid and makes a lot of elected officials look very bad for locking down their states for so long. It would destroy the media's panic push. To clarify, I'm sure a good portion honestly think that it could be a health catastrophe, but I think a large number are afraid that it will be good for Trump. Edited June 18, 2020 by LB3 5 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i honestly don't think so, two different environments, may have two different outcomes. I am all for the rally for political reasons..protests okay (basically rallies for the left) Trump should be able to have his. Kicker for me is the scientific experiment that comes along as a bonus. The difference maker is AGE not LOCATION. This virus is not dangerous to younger people but is a significant concern for seniors. I’m hoping older folks would no better than to attend. But..I’m also really pleased that the rally is going ahead. It will be the first experiment to hopefully open the door to upcoming sporting events and other large gatherings. 2
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: you get the difference between "inside" and "outside" no? 1 hour ago, Jaraxxus said: Yes, but a logical mind would assume that, say, 100k people outside should be roughly equivalent to 19k inside, no? It will be an interesting case to investigate the differences in the viral propagation which relies on size, quantity and duration of the droplets around the body's entry points. If the arena doesn't have a good ventilation system, it could be bad, buy so is clustering and shouting around many people outdoors. We'll see 1
BillStime Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 No wonder why Trump wants this rally so bad - its just been one bad week after another for the past 3.5 years. And here's MORE: Supreme Court rules against Trump administration attempt to end DACA, a win for undocumented immigrants brought to U.S. as children
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: No wonder why Trump wants this rally so bad - its just been one bad week after another for the past 3.5 years. And here's MORE: Supreme Court rules against Trump administration attempt to end DACA, a win for undocumented immigrants brought to U.S. as children So the SCOTUS just said that a new executive order cannot rescind a prior executive order? And you're ok with that? 2
FireChans Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: America strikes back? I thought the 2nd civil war alarmists were being hyperbolic but I'm not so sure anymore. You shouldn’t be. Folks in the South and rural communities are being pushed to the breaking point. Their towns’ sheriff is their neighbor and has discharged his weapon once in his career. They turn on the news and feel like they don’t belong here anymore. Worse, they feel like where they used to belong has been taken from them. 2 1
Westside Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: not 18K people at an event..and I may add 18K following the example of their idol and not wearing masks. Let the experiment begin! You really are a tard.
FireChans Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, GG said: So the SCOTUS just said that a new executive order cannot rescind a prior executive order? And you're ok with that? Time to EO about 150 directives and let them sort them out in 15 years 1 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, LB3 said: I think the bolded is the most important part. Of course cases will go up, but if rate stays the same and hospitalizations don't become an issue, it will be the biggest possible win for him. Part of me thinks that's why so many are trying to prevent him from having it. It effectively ends Covid and makes a lot of elected officials look very bad for locking down their states for so long. It would destroy the media's panic push. To clarify, I'm sure a good portion honestly think that it could be a health catastrophe, but I think a large number are afraid that it will be good for Trump. This, and only this. 19 minutes ago, GG said: So the SCOTUS just said that a new executive order cannot rescind a prior executive order? And you're ok with that? They put the comma in the wrong place! Just like the census. The Trump administration can do it buuuuutttt... we do not like the way they went about it. That Trump team needs better writers. (How the hell does "have DHS try again" make any sense? I mean I know it is because once something is in place, the SC is loathe to remove it, but shesh.) Edited June 18, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2
BillStime Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, GG said: So the SCOTUS just said that a new executive order cannot rescind a prior executive order? And you're ok with that? Yup. Let's get these DACA recipients on a path to citizen. Trump can lead the way - as we all know (per @Buffalogal) that he is the ultimate uniter, right? 1
GG Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: Yup. Let's get these DACA recipients on a path to citizen. Trump can lead the way - as we all know (per @Buffalogal) that he is the ultimate uniter, right? Then do the hard work through the proper legislative steps, if you're not too busy dancing at the graves. If you believe DACA was proper through an EO, it should equally be proper to rescind through an EO. 2 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, GG said: Then do the hard work through the proper legislative steps, if you're not too busy dancing at the graves. If you believe DACA was proper through an EO, it should equally be proper to rescind through an EO. Makes me wonder what they have on Justice Roberts. 2 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) This scared the crap out of me. It's a cult. Edited June 18, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 3
FireChans Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, GG said: Then do the hard work through the proper legislative steps, if you're not too busy dancing at the graves. If you believe DACA was proper through an EO, it should equally be proper to rescind through an EO. Activist judges going to activist judge. 1
Joe Miner Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Makes me wonder what they have on Justice Roberts. Pretty sure it's Epstein. 3 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe Miner said: Pretty sure it's Epstein. 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: Bet he's a pedo. I'd bet anything on it. That has long been a rumor. It would not surprise me in the least.
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