“Cancel” / Knee-Jerk Culture of 2020 and beyond

[SoCal Deek]

Can someone burn down the Clinton Library now? I recall when Bill was in favor of don’t ask don’t tell. Clearly anti-gay!

[reddogblitz]

42 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Can someone burn down the Clinton Library now? I recall when Bill was in favor of don’t ask don’t tell. Clearly anti-gay!

 

Here's a better reason.

 

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In 1987, Clinton signed a bill reaffirming the star on the flag and, as Governor and First Lady, he and Hillary led the state in celebrating Confederate Flag Day.
 

The state's General Assembly reaffirmed the parameters of the flag in a 1987 act that Clinton signed. Among other provisions detailing the flag's features, such as its colors and shapes, there was a line that read, “The blue star above the word 'ARKANSAS' is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.” The act met no significant opposition at the time. In the same legislative session, the assembly also settled on an official state song.

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12778959

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

56 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Can someone burn down the Clinton Library now? I recall when Bill was in favor of don’t ask don’t tell. Clearly anti-gay!

 

...can't ....could be evidence in the Epstein Room.........

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, Cinga said:

 

AND pretending to be women?

Halle Berry apologizes after being hit with backlash for considering transgender acting role

The actress said the role should be given to a member of the transgender community

Halle Berry should only actually play herself in movies.  In fact, I'd probably eagerly anticipate "Halle Berry on Halle Berry". 

[bilzfancy]

6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Halle Berry should only actually play herself in movies.  In fact, I'd probably eagerly anticipate "Halle Berry on Halle Berry". 

I'd rather see bilzfancy on Halle Berry

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Here's a better reason.

 

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12778959

 

Classic! 

[RocCityRoller]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

CHARLES LIPSON: The Fierce Fight Over America’s Ideals and History. 

 

“Most Americans think our nation’s history and aspirations are good, sometimes noble, sometimes flawed, not rotten to the core.

 

They recognize the cruelties, such as slavery and Jim Crow, and want them taught, not glossed over.

 

But they do not think our republic was founded to perpetuate those cruelties. Rather, they think our collective story is one of hope and progress, of confronting and overcoming the worst abuses.

 

It is a story of expanding opportunities, sometimes too slowly but ultimately for everyone.”

 

I sometimes wonder if tearing down the Confederate statues and glossing over Jim Crow for theories like 'the big switch' is a way for Democrats/ and the left to erase their own embedded, factual racist history, and not confront it. It's easier to package a bunch of lies and empty promises to minorities when their own misdeads are erased, and reminders of questions that should be asked are 'canceled'.

 

If it's not taught in school in any factual or meaningful way, then what sparks that conversation? What is lost is the chance to have an honest conversation with the next generation when a little boy or girl of any color points to a confederate statue and asks 'Who was that?' Same when a name is removed from a building or program. What did they do to have a building or program after him (or her). What did they believe in?

 

Woodrow Wilson and what happened to him at Princeton is another new example.

 

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/06/27/president-eisgrubers-message-community-removal-woodrow-wilson-name-public-policy

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Here's a better reason.

 

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12778959

 

But didn't you know? This doesn't count since he was a Democrat!

[Johnnycage46]

7 hours ago, Cinga said:

 

AND pretending to be women?

Halle Berry apologizes after being hit with backlash for considering transgender acting role

The actress said the role should be given to a member of the transgender community

 

The Halle Berry one is beyond insanity.  She's....an actress....she....acts like the characters that she is playing lol.  Bill Burr had a really funny bit in his Paper Tiger special (think it was right at the beginning of the show) where he ***** about how Brian Cranston got ***** for playing a person in a wheelchair and how people thought an actual paralyzed person should play the role.  That's not acting...that's a documentary.  It's beyond crazy at this point.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, bilzfancy said:

I'd rather see bilzfancy on Halle Berry

I’d give you two smiley emojis If I could—because that was damn funny. 

[Chef Jim]

18 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

The radical left must be destroyed.

They are called vandals but those that destroyed blocks of Seattle and Portland were just having a block party. 

[Cinga]

25 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

The radical left must be destroyed.

 

This is f***ing disgusting! 

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

The radical left must be destroyed.

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Jemele Hill Says the Quiet Part Out Loud About Black Lives Matter

 

Black Lives Matter has become a major point of contention in the ongoing culture war. The organization, which has taken center stage following over a month of protests, many turning violent and destructive, has been stretched and skewed into something they don’t even claim to be themselves. Mainstream forces have sought to piggyback off their “movement,” largely for political reasons.

 

As I’ve written previously, this is all a mirage. The BLM organization continues to hold awful, radical views . They are open about their Marxist ideology,  their anti-family views, and their views on abortion, among many other objectionable stances. The idea that they’ve been rehabilitated into an acceptable entity doesn’t pass muster.

 

Regardless, the attempts to excuse their behavior and viewpoints have become a bit of a sport among supposed journalists and their outfits. Enter Jemele Hill, who said the quiet part out loud about BLM this morning.

 

 

It’s what she says after this that gives the game away, but I’ll note that Chicago is not lacking for “gun control.” Hill knows this but needs to be spared from calling out the real issue, which is rampant crime and disrespect for life in some of these communities.

 

I’ll also note that it’s “martial” law, not “marshal” law. Thus is the academic depth at The Atlantic these days though.

 

{snip}

 

I guess she doesn’t realize how awful of an analogy that is, which is surprising. The organization is literally called “Black Lives Matter.” That would denote all black lives holding value to any normal onlooker. Further, BLM never claims to be a singularly focused group. You can go read their website yourself.

 

But Hill is saying what many of us realized long ago. BLM isn’t about all black lives. It’s a political and revolutionary movement. The reason they focus on police violence (when they aren’t preoccupied with the myriad of other issues people claim they don’t have the time to focus on) is not because they uniquely understand the danger of government abuse. It’s because it’s the perfect wedge to batter the system, which they readily admit they want to take down. What doesn’t give them that wedge is caring about and protesting over an 8-year-old black girl being shot. That’s why they ignore those issues.

 

That’s not to say that people who casually follow the BLM movement don’t care about those issues, but the organization itself, which is flush with hundreds of millions of dollars, has done almost nothing to address the murder rates in the black community.

 

Some will say they are allowed to have a focus and that they simply can’t cover every issue. One, you’d think the issue taking by far the most lives would be a priority, but regardless, this is an organization that has time for almost everything else. They’ve got time to stump for black trans-gender ***** issues. They can rally for abortion. They can promote Marxism and black power dynamics. But they simply can’t divide their focus enough to put a spotlight on black children being murdered by members of their communities?

 

No one should buy that because it’s absolute nonsense. If BLM were really about black lives, they’d be targeting their focus to impact and save the greatest amount of black lives, from police brutality to kids being murdered. They aren’t, though, because it doesn’t fit their political narrative and goals. It’s that simple.

 

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Edited July 8, 2020 by B-Man

[FireChans]

22 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

The Halle Berry one is beyond insanity.  She's....an actress....she....acts like the characters that she is playing lol.  Bill Burr had a really funny bit in his Paper Tiger special (think it was right at the beginning of the show) where he ***** about how Brian Cranston got ***** for playing a person in a wheelchair and how people thought an actual paralyzed person should play the role.  That's not acting...that's a documentary.  It's beyond crazy at this point.

And two years ago, they praised Hamilton for having POCs play the founding fathers.

 

Really ######ed stuff.

[Johnnycage46]

27 minutes ago, FireChans said:

And two years ago, they praised Hamilton for having POCs play the founding fathers.

 

Really ######ed stuff.

That's the double standard of today.  Total BS.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Koko78]

59 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

The Halle Berry one is beyond insanity.  She's....an actress....she....acts like the characters that she is playing lol.  Bill Burr had a really funny bit in his Paper Tiger special (think it was right at the beginning of the show) where he ***** about how Brian Cranston got ***** for playing a person in a wheelchair and how people thought an actual paralyzed person should play the role.  That's not acting...that's a documentary.  It's beyond crazy at this point.

 

Oh, don't worry. The next complaint is how people are racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc. because they don't pay to see movies featuring nobody actors.

 

That's not even including the racist movie studios who don't want to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in those nobody actors.

[B-Man]

 

A SMALL SIGN OF SANITY AMONG THE LEFT: 

 

‘Stifling Atmosphere’ of Cancel Culture Will Harm ‘the Most Vital Causes of Our Time,’ Leftists Warn.

 

On Tuesday, Harpers released a powerful open letter denouncing cancel culture and celebrating open debate. Even far-left anti-capitalist Noam Chomsky signed the letter.

 

“The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted,” the letter warns. “While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty.”

 

The signatories lament that “it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms.”

 

 

As Iowahawk noted, “Noam Chomsky was a Cambodian Genocide denier who defended Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, and today I learned cancel culture has gotten too wacky even for him.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

52 minutes ago, FireChans said:

And two years ago, they praised Hamilton for having POCs play the founding fathers.

 

Really ######ed stuff.

 

You gotta admit...how funny would it be if the mob managed to cancel Hamilton because he's a slave owner?

 

That cast pissed on Pence shortly after the election and was quickly the toast of the nutbag leftists. But only nutbag leftists can be stupid enough to get SO unhinged with their cancel culture that they start cancelling themselves.

 

Dumbest nutbags on the planet.

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

You gotta admit...how funny would it be if the mob managed to cancel Hamilton because he's a slave owner?

 

That cast pissed on Pence shortly after the election and was quickly the toast of the nutbag leftists. But only nutbag leftists can be stupid enough to get SO unhinged with their cancel culture that they start cancelling themselves.

 

Dumbest nutbags on the planet.

This is what happens when you are overly reactionary. They jumped into this mess without thinking let alone thinking it through.