'13th' A Netflix Documentary

[Westside]

11 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

This is why you are a knucklehead  poster...nonsensical reply...

You're a 57 year old suffering from white guilt. I'd rather be a knucklehead. 

[plenzmd1]

Just now, westside2 said:

You're a 57 year old suffering from white guilt. I'd rather be a knucklehead. 

you are whatever without a 3rd grade reading comprehension level...acknowledging that racism exists in this world is not white guilt..hard concept for you I am sure...everyone is out to get you!!!

 

Must suck always knowing you are the dumbest guy in the room

[Westside]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

you are whatever without a 3rd grade reading comprehension level...acknowledging that racism exists in this world is not white guilt..hard concept for you I am sure...everyone is out to get you!!!

 

Must suck always knowing you are the dumbest guy in the 

Is that all you got? Admit your white guilt and bow down at the BLM alter. You're 57 and your balls haven't dropped yet. Sucks to be you.

[plenzmd1]

Just now, westside2 said:

Is that all you got? Admit your white guilt and bow down at the BLM alter. You're 57 and your balls haven't dropped yet. Sucks to be you.

Haha..you are such a slow person. Tell ya what, you point out where any statement i have points to white guilt and i will donate a $1000 to your favorite charity

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Haha..you are such a slow person. Tell ya what, you point out where any statement i have points to white guilt and i will donate a $1000 to your favorite charity

Just scroll up. You probably don't have $1000 to your name. Lol

You're a joke.

 

That idiot writes a stupid ass post and you agree with him. Then you attack me. Go fucck yourself.

Edited June 17, 2020 by westside2

[GG]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

And the race thing is played by both parties. DEmocrats just more open about what they think of black voters. And if you are new here, i am a staunch anti Trumper and will be voting fro Biden( most likely), but think the one area where Republicans have a stronger case for my vote is how they approach issues that affect minorities. Democrats assume only they can help minorities, as the minorities themselves cannot possibly help themselves. I mean if i was a black voter and heard " you aint black if you not voting for me" that would make my blood boil. Did that not bother you?

 

 

And therein is the rub.   When does the black community get tired of a party that's patronized them for 50+ years, with no tangible benefit to speak of in 2 generations?

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Just scroll up. You probably don't have $1000 to your name. Lol

You're a joke.

again, point out my white guilt statements, instanseouly will donate $1000 to your favorite charity...or is it you only know how to parrot talking points with no real thought process

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

again, point out my white guilt statements, instanseouly will donate $1000 to your favorite charity...or is it you only know how to parrot talking points with no real thought process

Pot meet kettle. Do you keep your $1000 in your man purse?

[KRC]

3 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

Ahh yes the reverse racism card. I can lay out all the facts and evidence of an actual real racist system at play and will be accused of being a racist myself for doing so OR for calling a spade a spade.

 

For you to feel the need to respond to this thread that's discussing very real, very evil, very sensitive subject matter and say "Oh the guilt!!! Not!" is clearly some racist pos type of stuff. Not calling YOU that but that action definitely was. I hope you are just an ignorant little kid being immature.

 

WTF is "reverse racism?" Racism is racism, regardless of what race is degrading the other. Or, are we changing definitions again?

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

And therein is the rub.   When does the black community get tired of a party that's patronized them for 50+ years, with no tangible benefit to speak of in 2 generations?

agreed 100%. 

 

Funny story, not quite apples to apples, but will relay it anyway.

 

25 years ago when i worked for ADP, had a sales call at a small non Profit in DC ..English First. First blush , i thought it would be a "right" leaning place that was trying to make English the official language and hurt immigrants trying to learn ESL and slowly transition to life in the US. And my left leaning self was like " gunna suck selling to these guys, but they have a right to get paid to"

 

Turns out it was a non-profit started by a group of Hispanic Immigrants, and they did want to make English the official language. Their argument was that by providing so much information in Spanish and not forcing people to learn english, it was a detriment to Hispanics advancing in society and perpetually keeping them lower educated and with less economic opportunity. I talked with the director for an hour that day about the mission of his organization, really made me examine lots of what i previously thought. 

 

 

[Koko78]

7 hours ago, StHustle said:

**IF YOU ARE WHITE AND THINK SYSTEMIC RACISM IS A MYTH, GO WATCH THE NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY '13TH'. ITS FILLED WITH VERIFIABLE FACTS THAT WILL FINALLY OPEN YOUR EYES & ITS MAINLY TOLD BY WHITE PEOPLE. HERE IS A SHORT ONE MINUTE CLIP **

 

 

Many whites become uncomfortable with giving any sort of thought that their country isnt the squeaky clean 'Home of the Free' and 'Greatest Country on Earth' that they want to believe it to be.

 

So you're judging white people by the color of the skin, and believe that they will only respond to token whites?

[plenzmd1]

4 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

So you're judging white people by the color of the skin, and believe that they will only respond to token whites?

Just to play devils advocate..Candace Owens is making a living, and God bless her,  being held up as " see, even black people" ...

[GG]

6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

agreed 100%. 

 

Funny story, not quite apples to apples, but will relay it anyway.

 

25 years ago when i worked for ADP, had a sales call at a small non Profit in DC ..English First. First blush , i thought it would be a "right" leaning place that was trying to make English the official language and hurt immigrants trying to learn ESL and slowly transition to life in the US. And my left leaning self was like " gunna suck selling to these guys, but they have a right to get paid to"

 

Turns out it was a non-profit started by a group of Hispanic Immigrants, and they did want to make English the official language. Their argument was that by providing so much information in Spanish and not forcing people to learn english, it was a detriment to Hispanics advancing in society and perpetually keeping them lower educated and with less economic opportunity. I talked with the director for an hour that day about the mission of his organization, really made me examine lots of what i previously thought. 

 

 

 

Quaint, but universally true.  

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

Just to play devils advocate..Candace Owens is making a living, and God bless her,  being held up as " see, even black people" ...

 

It's more of a parallel to your story above.  Her message is that she's tired of the pandering.

[Magox]

4 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

So a video of the campaign strategist of an eventual president expressing tactics of how law can be used to hurt black people mean nothing to you. That is a clear indication of willful ignorance. You can hear or see factual evidence but will willingly play dumb like your brain cant process what you actually just saw or heard. Dismiss it as nothing.

 

You see a video of a young black boy feeling the need to have to hide his very existence as police ride by.......and you blow it off as no big deal, or some sort of delusion that we have created on our own due from years of justifiable police actions.

 

So at least 1 of 3 things apply to you:

 

1. You are ignorant of the facts, refuse to learn and enjoy shutting down the idea that the facts exist to make you feel better about yourself

2. You know the facts but feel like "they aren't that bad" which shows the type of person you are

 

Someone like you would never sit through an American history documentary such as 13th. You cannot handle the truth. The lie works better for you so you choose the blue pill.

 

 

Yes most racists feel no guilt about their feelings. That is an important ingredient to allow them to sleep at night after treating another race of human beings like animals all day.

 

To your first point, you are talking about what one campaign strategist said back in 1981 as proof that Cutting taxes is code word for systemic racism?  Do you not realize how incredibly stupid that sounds?   Cutting taxes has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with an ideology that believes that it stimulates growth....One can attempt to reasonably disagree with that premise, but singling out what A strategist said nearly 30 years ago as your smoking gun proof is utterly ######ed. 

 

Also, one video of a kid showing his fear of the police is proof that the police department is targeting African Americans?   Is that what you are trying to depict?   Singular instances is not an effective way to point to prove endemic institutional racism.  I am open to the examining of perceived institutional racist policies.  But just screaming that there is or showing a video or audio is not an effective way to do it.  It invites ridicule and deservedly so.    If you look at the raw numbers, which I'm a data guy, you would be hard pressed to find that police shootings of blacks are disproportionately higher than other races.  

 

With that said, I do believe that there are reforms to be had to solve some of the inequities.  I don't believe for a second that there was an intended affect to create policies to punish blacks, however I do believe it's possible that cultural practices and where police tend to patrol along with some judicial matters have had the unintended consequence of disproportionately punishing blacks.  

 

And don't lecture anyone about a blue pill, because your argument is one that perfectly follows those that engage in group think which is the very definition of a blue piller.

Edited June 17, 2020 by Magox

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, westside2 said:

Lol, you're nothing but a race baiter. You blame your shiity life on the evil white people. Take responsibility for your crappy existence for once. No need to respond, have a nice life.

 

Upon whom do you place blame for your ***** life?  

 

I come to this place for laughter and fun.  You patronize it as a means of expressing your anger and self-loathing.  I feel badly for you, and I hope that you are able to make a new friend today who can bring some joy into your life.  Cheers!

Edited June 17, 2020 by SectionC3

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Upon whom do you place blame for your ***** life?  

 

I come to this place for laughter and fun.  You patronize it as a means of expressing your anger and self-loathing.  I feel badly for you, and I hope that you are able to make a new friend today who can bring some joy into your life.  Cheers!

Lol, I have a great life. I'm financially secure, have several great girlfriends, retired at 55. I'm living the dream! Thank you for your concern, though it's not necessary. 

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

Lol, I have a great life. I'm financially secure, have several great girlfriends, retired at 55. I'm living the dream! Thank you for your concern, though it's not necessary. 

 

I’m glad to hear that you have found joy in your existence.  Now project that joy to others, sir!

[Westside]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

I’m glad to hear that you have found joy in your existence.  Now project that joy to others, sir!

I do. Just not to people who don't deserve it. 

[Tiberius]

46 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

agreed 100%. 

 

Funny story, not quite apples to apples, but will relay it anyway.

 

25 years ago when i worked for ADP, had a sales call at a small non Profit in DC ..English First. First blush , i thought it would be a "right" leaning place that was trying to make English the official language and hurt immigrants trying to learn ESL and slowly transition to life in the US. And my left leaning self was like " gunna suck selling to these guys, but they have a right to get paid to"

 

Turns out it was a non-profit started by a group of Hispanic Immigrants, and they did want to make English the official language. Their argument was that by providing so much information in Spanish and not forcing people to learn english, it was a detriment to Hispanics advancing in society and perpetually keeping them lower educated and with less economic opportunity. I talked with the director for an hour that day about the mission of his organization, really made me examine lots of what i previously thought. 

 

 

The Democrats have been very benefiticial to the black community. It’s where they get representation in the government and have allowed them to fight poverty and systemic racism amount other issues. There was only a tiny black mhole dale class 50 years ago, and now there is a sizable black middle class, just for one example. 

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The Democrats have been very benefiticial to the black community. It’s where they get representation in the government and have allowed them to fight poverty and systemic racism amount other issues. There was only a tiny black mhole dale class 50 years ago, and now there is a sizable black middle class, just for one example. 

Lol, yeah right.