LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: Not my problem if you can't take a joke. Not my problem if you can't take criticism. 5 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: They've earned it. Let them earm the wage of lawlessness. This instance was not the wage. That's the point.
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I'm not insensitive to people getting shot or dying. I'm bewildered that we have idiots in this country who believe that first responders should be replaced by social workers. I've noticed for quite some time that our country has been slowly slipping. It has just changed to warp speed in the last few weeks. I don't disagree. But we also have an increasing problem of letting sensationalized stories drive rhetoric like that. 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: They want no cops? This is what happens with no cops. No, this is what's been happening regardless.
3rdnlng Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: I don't disagree. But we also have an increasing problem of letting sensationalized stories drive rhetoric like that. Who drives the sensationalized stories?
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Who drives the sensationalized stories? Media We collectively love it and encourage it
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: Not where I live it isn't. Where do you live? Let's look at the stats.
RocCityRoller Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Revolutions tend to be bloody Is that a wall defining a border? I am outraged by this injustice! /s
Artful Dodger Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: https://twitter.com/Omarisal/status/1274301877643968512?s=20 Shooting in CHAZ. 1 dead, 1 wounded. I hope neither were African-American or they'll have to set up a separate protest enclave within the protest enclave. 3
RocCityRoller Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Considering a person died and another could likely die, this seems a bit insensitive. In these times, we should be holding tighter to our humanity, not letting it go. Considering the nature of the hit, it seems targeted. Probably would've happened one way or another. There was a shooting last week down the street from my house and we're in an area still heavily policed... go figure. Right here in WNY. Rochester, NY. 5 shootings, 3 Dead yesterday. Almost all in impoverished neighborhoods. Where is the humanity, where is the outcry? Where are the protests? https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/rochester/public-safety/2020/06/19/1-dead--2-seriously-wounded-in-3-overnight-shootings-in-rochester Fully Attributed to Spectrum News in Rochester 3 Dead, 2 Injured in 5 Friday Shootings in Rochester By Spectrum News Staff Rochester PUBLISHED 7:24 AM ET Jun. 19, 2020 UPDATED 5:27 PM ET Jun. 19, 2020 Two afternoon shootings have added to an already violent day in Rochester, as three have died and two others are injured after five shootings on Friday. Police say they were called to Bernard Street around 12:15 a.m. Friday for a report of shots fired. Ricardo Stone, Jr., 23, of Rochester, was found shot, and was taken to Rochester General Hospital by a private car where he was pronounced dead a short time later. An hour or so later, officers were called to 1226 North Clinton Avenue where they found a man, identified as Willie Carter IV, 17, of Rochester, shot in a convenience store. He was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital with life-threatening injuries. He underwent emergency surgery but police say the victim has died. According to police, a third shooting took place around 2 a.m. on Violetta Street. That victim was also taken to Strong Memorial Hospital with what police say are life-threatening injuries. At around 2:00 p.m., a man, identified as Parris Washington, 31, of Rochester, was shot in the backyard at 31 Bardin Street. Washington was pronounced dead, police have confirmed. Rochester Police Captain Frank Umbrino gave no indication as to whether or not the shootings were connected. “It’s been extremely busy," said Umbrino. "I can tell you at this point that the only connection we have between the three jobs is a complete lack of moral fortitude and a disregard for human life by the individuals that have committed these crimes.” (Editorial edit- Be careful Frank, you will be called a racist). Also on Friday afternoon, Genesee section officers responded to Magnolia Street for a report of gunshots heard in the area. A 19-year-old Rochester male was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital with a least one gunshot wound to his upper torso. His condition is listed as being stable and non-life-threatening. Police are asking anyone with information on any of these shootings to call 911 or Crimestoppers at 423-9300. *************************************************************************************************************************** So where is the outrage? Where is the humanity? Just to add another layer of spice to the mix, Strong Memorial Hospital (the main hospital in Rochester) and the U of R in general (U of R is a University and Health System) is in the middle of partial furloughs. The furloughs were caused by a lack of revenue to the University and Medical Center due to Andrew Cuomo's (D) orders to restrict non COVID-19 treatment. URMC (University of Rochester Medical Center) has had to furlough or partially furlough staff not only from the college, but from the highly paid, and now underutilized medical staff. This includes neurologists/ oncologists/ nurses etc. Entire wards were empty of patients for months leading to a $100-200 million dollar shortfall leading to furloughs. Doesn't seem fair to those few left on staff to treat such injuries. Edited June 20, 2020 by RocCityRoller
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Right here in WNY. Rochester, NY. 5 shootings, 3 Dead yesterday. Almost all in impoverished neighborhoods. Where is the humanity, where is the outcry? Where are the protests? Right. I'm willing to bet members of the victims' families have already been protesting.
fansince88 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: I'm not insensitive to people getting shot or dying. I'm bewildered that we have idiots in this country who believe that first responders should be replaced by social workers. I've noticed for quite some time that our country has been slowly slipping. It has just changed to warp speed in the last few weeks. First Responders are supposed to help while the crime is happening or to keep it from happening at the moment. Social Workers try to clean up that which was ignored. That takes years or sometimes cant be done. We are surrounded by morons.
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: I just did. In my rural township there have been zero murders and 3 rapes in 2020 despite high minority populations. And it ain't wealthy here. link? How many shooting crimes?
RocCityRoller Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: I hope neither were African-American or they'll have to set up a separate protest enclave within the protest enclave. Why bother? Just treat it like another black on black crime..... Democrats in power do. Edited June 20, 2020 by RocCityRoller
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, fansince88 said: First Responders are supposed to help while the crime is happening or to keep it from happening at the moment. Social Workers try to clean up that which was ignored. That takes years or sometimes cant be done. We are surrounded by morons. I think in reality, the people 3rdnlng was referring to (those who want to completely get rid of our typical first responders, apparently) are few and far between...
RocCityRoller Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Right. I'm willing to bet members of the victims' families have already been protesting. Not sure what you are trying to say here. Please clarify. I think the shootings of 5 people, with 3 known deaths from it is an injustice, regardless of how it happened. What do you mean by saying?: "I'm willing to bet members of the victims' families have already been protesting."
IDBillzFan Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: No, this is what's been happening regardless. Except reports are that the CHOADS refused to let police or medical personnel in to help, which is why one person died. They let a person die.
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Not sure what you are trying to say here. Please clarify. I think the shootings of 5 people, with 3 known deaths from it is an injustice, regardless of how it happened. What do you mean by saying?: "I'm willing to bet members of the victims' families have already been protesting." If you followed that conversation, you can see that I said those shooting would've probably happened regardless. The stories you posted seem to prove my point. Being black families, I'm willing to bet they've already been out protesting about the issues affecting our poorer minority communities.
LeGOATski Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Except reports are that the CHOADS refused to let police or medical personnel in to help, which is why one person died. They let a person die. That's a sensationalized take. Both were immediately taken to a hospital. They have trained medical people already in the area. Investigators were let in to work the scene after the fact. Without knowing the facts, it seems unreasonable to blame certain people except the actual murderer who pulled the trigger.
3rdnlng Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I think in reality, the people 3rdnlng was referring to (those who want to completely get rid of our typical first responders, apparently) are few and far between... It seems like I've heard rumors recently about a certain segment of society that wants to defund the police. Then I heard rumors that first responders should not be the police but be people trained in social work. I think I even heard people chanting about this.
IDBillzFan Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: That's a sensationalized take. Both were immediately taken to a hospital. They have trained medical people already in the area. Investigators were let in to work the scene after the fact. Without knowing the facts, it seems unreasonable to blame certain people except the actual murderer who pulled the trigger. We'll find out soon enough .
Artful Dodger Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 I live near Washington DC and my hometown newspaper is the Washington Post. I just checked its website and there's no mention of the deaths. In fact, a search reveals there's been no mention of CHAZ at all in the Post for the last four days. It's as if the editors think if they don't report on it, it doesn't exist or will go away.
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