Breonna Taylor's murders are still free (THIS IS THE POINT)

[Sig1Hunter]

32 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

Dude, everyone knows the name Breonna Taylor. Are you fu¢king stupid?

 

Do you even know the name Autumn Steele? If she was a black woman you would. She was an innocent white mother who was shot to death by a police officer in front of her child in her own yard. She posed no threat to the officer. He was never charged and received paid leave.

 

Do you even know the name Daniel Shaver? If he was a black man you would. He was a 26 year old pest control specialist with a wife and 2 daughters who was shot and killed at point blank range by a hyper-aggressive police officer while unarmed and on his knees begging for his life. 

 

Do you even know the name Zachary Hammond? How about Dylan Noble? Dillon Taylor? James Whitehead? John Albers? Ariel Roman, maybe?

 

No?

 

If they were black you would.

 

 

 

Weird that he hasn’t responded to this. 

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Weird that he hasn’t responded to this. 

 

It's literally the post before yours.... 

[Rob's House]

13 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Everyone does, is that right? Also -- this is another post you can say on camera! This is one of your better ones!

 

All of these names do is prove my point that unaccountable police violence is a problem that affects all Americans. I don't know why you are assuming I don't know these names. I more than encourage you to create a thread for each of them specifically. They all deserve discussion. 

 

Actually it clearly debunks your point which is proven by your pivot away from the race baiting message that was your point.

 

Don't you remember your idiotic line, "if she was a white woman you would"?

 

Take the L, bro.

[GregPersons]

Just now, Rob's House said:

Actually it clearly debunks your point which is proven by your pivot away from the race baiting message that was your point.

 

Don't you remember your idiotic line, "if she was a white woman you would"?

 

Take the L, bro.

 

She would receive more national attention if she were a White woman. This is hardly debatable. A missing or dead White woman is always big national news. Natalie Holloway, etc etc. 

 

Actually, again, it supports my point. You misrepresenting my point doesn't change it

 

Black people suffer from police brutality and police immunity. They are not the only ones. It affects everybody. It doesn't affect White people nearly as much proportionally, by any means, and go crunch some numbers if you want to disagree on stats! But it does affect White people and Latino people and Asian and Native and every classification. To suggest it affects everybody in equal numbers, in equal demographics is stupid. Do rich people get shot by police as frequently as poor people? And so on.

 

Take my money, bro, and stop dodging this great job offer.

[Rob's House]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

She would receive more national attention if she were a White woman. This is hardly debatable. A missing or dead White woman is always big national news. Natalie Holloway, etc etc. 

 

Actually, again, it supports my point. You misrepresenting my point doesn't change it

 

Black people suffer from police brutality and police immunity. They are not the only ones. It affects everybody. It doesn't affect White people nearly as much proportionally, by any means, and go crunch some numbers if you want to disagree on stats! But it does affect White people and Latino people and Asian and Native and every classification. To suggest it affects everybody in equal numbers, in equal demographics is stupid. Do rich people get shot by police as frequently as poor people? And so on.

 

Take my money, bro, and stop dodging this great job offer.

 

We all know that's bullsh|t. The only reason we know anything about her is because she's black. 

 

Name a similar situation with a white woman that got this much attention.

 

I'll wait.

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, Rob's House said:

We all know that's bullsh|t. The only reason we know anything about her is because she's black. 

 

Name a similar situation with a white woman that got this much attention.

 

I'll wait.

 

I literally named "Natalie Holloway" in the post I quoted, so you don't have to wait. You just have to read with comprehension. 

 

Still no response on our offer? Why????

[Rob's House]

3 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

I literally named "Natalie Holloway" in the post I quoted, so you don't have to wait. You just have to read with comprehension. 

 

Still no response on our offer? Why????

 

Yeaaaahhh.

 

The Natalie Holloway story isn't remotely similar. I can't even give you credit for effort on that one.

[Sig1Hunter]

56 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

It's literally the post before yours.... 

lol my bad..I have a bad habit of skipping over your posts.

[GregPersons]

13 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

lol my bad..I have a bad habit of skipping over your posts.

 

And of sharing your thoughts when you don't know what you're talking about

13 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Yeaaaahhh.

 

The Natalie Holloway story isn't remotely similar. I can't even give you credit for effort on that one.

 

Uhhh yeah the specific details are obviously different, but we're on the subject of "missing women." There were several other pretty young white girl is missing stories besides Holloway too, as I'm sure you recall. Jon Benet Ramsey is a white girl who's unsolved murder is still talked about to this day.

 

I don't know any examples of White women being shot by police. I'd guess that'd be one of the lowest demographics to suffer from police shootings, physically. (Women in general suffer from police violence, psychically, with how poorly police handle rape cases; they are also physically abused by police too. But I don't know any examples of innocent White women being shot by police)

Edited June 12, 2020 by GregPersons

[Sig1Hunter]

11 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

And of sharing your thoughts when you don't know what you're talking about

You say tomato, I say tomAHto. 

[GregPersons]

Just now, Sig1Hunter said:

You say tomato, I say tomAHto. 

 

Did you respond to my OP, though? What do you think about this story? 

[Chef Jim]

12 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

And of sharing your thoughts when you don't know what you're talking about

Uhhh yeah the specific details are obviously different, but we're on the subject of "missing women."

No we’re not on the subject of “missing women”. 
 

The specific details are different?  No the only similarities in the two stories is they are about women. Please be a man and admit you ***** up on this one. There’s nothing wrong with that. 

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Did you respond to my OP, though? What do you think about this story? 

I know you’re not asking me but I’ll give you my opinion. It’s an very unfortunate event with a lot of missing information and a ton of conjecture. 

[GregPersons]

10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

No we’re not on the subject of “missing women”. 
 

The specific details are different?  No the only similarities in the two stories is they are about women. Please be a man and admit you ***** up on this one. There’s nothing wrong with that. 

 

If the subject is "innocent women shot by police with no investigative follow-up" I don't know if there is an example of an innocent White woman being shot to death by police? Show me that story.

[Kevbeau]

10 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

If the subject is "innocent women shot by police with no investigative follow-up" I don't know if there is an example of an innocent White woman being shot to death by police? Show me that story.

Don’t be that guy. RH already gave you an example.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/3267264002

 

[GregPersons]

4 minutes ago, Kevbeau said:

Don’t be that guy. RH already gave you an example.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/3267264002

 

 

Right, Autumn Steele. I'm confused? Is it that Autumn Steele isn't a bigger story? But we all know about it? My other point that White women missing or being hurt tends to always be national news, but it's not always, or rarely true for Black women. Breonna Taylor is maybe the first national name. I don't know.

 

I agree this is an example of police injustice. If we're on the same side on this, I am confused what the argument is. I don't really want to be measuring the relative value of suffering. I am against it, period. My only additional point being again that Black people have been subjected to this to a greater degree, just as a fact. Not that it doesn't happen to White people. So, yeah. I don't know what the disagreement is on if we are all saying "Police need to be held accountable"?

Edited June 12, 2020 by GregPersons

[Chef Jim]

15 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

If the subject is "innocent women shot by police with no investigative follow-up" I don't know if there is an example of an innocent White woman being shot to death by police? Show me that story.

I’m still waiting for a story of an innocent woman shot by police with no investigative follow-up. 

[GregPersons]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

I’m still waiting for a story of an innocent woman shot by police with no investigative follow-up. 

 

(points to thread title)

[Kevbeau]

7 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Right, Autumn Steele. I'm confused? Is it that Autumn Steele isn't a bigger story? But we all know about it? 

 

I agree this is an example of police injustice. If we're on the same side on this, I am confused what the argument is. 

Per your post, you asked for an example of a similar incident involving a white woman with no (transparent) investigative follow up. Rob provided one. Tangential to the discussion, I knew/know about Breonna Taylor. I had to google Autumn Steele based on Rob’s post.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Kevbeau
Clarifying the investigative follow up

[GregPersons]

Just now, Kevbeau said:

Per your post, you asked for an example of a similar incident involving a white woman with no investigative follow up. Rob provided one. Tangential to the discussion, I knew/know about Breonna Taylor. I had to google Autumn Steele based on Rob’s post.

 

To be fair I only learned about her story from "what aboutism" elsewhere online, but again, I don't disagree about speaking up about her story. It's not a zero sum game. Neither should be acceptable. Obviously! And RH is free to make a post and advocate for justice. He should! It'd be a better use of his time.

[Chef Jim]

5 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

(points to thread title)

And you’d be wrong.