Trump is a Fascist

[BillsFanNC]

It's almost as if Lron fuk.c stain is a useful idiot only worthy of a full ignore.

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

CNN — 

Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power Saturday in a continuation of his election denialism and pushing of fringe conspiracy theories.

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social and accused “Big Tech” of working closely with Democrats. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”

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[Tommy Callahan]

DEMS using fear of the orange dude for political gain.

 

While everyone feals exactly how bad Bidens domestic and foreign agenda is.

 

 

[Tiberius]

25 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

DEMS using fear of the orange dude for political gain.

 

While everyone feals exactly how bad Bidens domestic and foreign agenda is.

 

 

Trump is a fascist and appeals to crazy people like you 

 

Biden, meanwhile, is doing fine 

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

L. Ron, if you completely disregard any aspects of rioting, civil commotion, death, destruction, and wrongdoing of any kind by the people you are looking to support, you'll be able to support your thesis that one side is full of crazies and the other (your) side just has some folks online.  It will just be bullsh*t. 

 

Yikes. 

 

 

 

Huh, strange.  Saying things are not the same is completely disregarding?  I question your comprehension but perhaps it's my wording.  All the left wing rioting/civil disobedience was wrong - all that broke the law should be jailed.  Still, it is not even in the same stratosphere as the damage from J6 and the new conservative party of alternative fact/conspiracy mongering.  The right's loons are more numerous, and far more dangerous to our democracy.  Thankfully they are observably stupid so you can usually see them coming from far off.  

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

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[Buffarukus]

20 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

You really comparing older liberals to MAGA?  That's....gross.  If all you have is cultural BS then you don't really have much.  What you can and can't say in the workplace?  I mean, are you upset you can't call anyone and everyone anything that pops into your head?  Again, that isnt much and frankly I don't care.  I mostly agree with the sentiment, some of these changes regarding sex/gender don't make sense to me.  But government hardly controls that.  

 

I talk about what liberalism stood for. How it no longer resembles itself and has flipped its values. Instead you pull out the comparison to MAGA. Its gross?

 

The fact i can go to a store today and see isles that have to be locked up due to lax crime laws and normalization of looting. I Read repeatedly as those same soft punishments on crime that release someone on the street who ends up finally taking lives. 

 

Immigration flooding cities where nyc mayor is slashing budgets, less libraries and police. Coming to a city near me, and has...read about the migrants delivered to my side of the state. Again with no federal action to stop the problem they caused and seemigly condone.

 

https://abc7ny.com/nyc-asylum-seekers-erie-county-migrant-shelters-ny/13745257/

 

"Eric County Executive Mark Poloncarz referenced two sex crimes involving migrants in his decision to request New York City no longer send migrants to the county. Poloncarz said Mayor Eric Adams agreed to the pause."

 

I can go on. I did.  But this isnt small "cutural bs" just because you do not  have the capacity to care about the effects or dont believe they are true. These are major shifts in society whether you acknowledge them or not. Then when i ask for a comparison, i get the below.

 

 

20 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

In terms of Christian Nationalism there is a lot wrong with it, and most of it comes from the crazies on your side but I'll boil it down to one thing because nothing else should be necessary.  Religion should never mix with politics in the US.  We do not have a state religion, so favoring one over others is against everything the founding fathers stood for.  It's antithetical to the very idea of our country.  Everyone that mentions god a lot that's in politics is grifting/manipulating.

 

So i give examples and get "these things should not mix"

 

no real examples of negatives happening today that i asked for. I gave you abortion/ contraception banning. Got anything substantial besides i dont like this If it ends up more in gov policy.

 

If not, what are you really standing on?

 

 

20 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Last, about freedom of speech.  Take a good look at those that gripe about freedom of speech the most.  You'll find a lot of them just want the freedom to lie.  Since Elon took over X my feed has been bombarded with right wing garbage.  The people that gripe the most about it have conspiracy laden BS they either have said or constantly say easily found.  You saying conspiracy has lost meaning is, well, meaningless.  People believe crazy, insane shiite.  Yeah once in a blue moon conspiracies end up being reality.  If you're batting .010 you shouldn't be proud of that.  

 

Im not sure what you get in your feed. I also dont care. I think your a adult who can make a logical distinction between bs and truth. what you think should be directed toward X to make ignoring authors or topics easier. But thats not what the left wants. They want to decide for me. They dont seem concerned about gov encroachment in those decisions for others. They think words are violece and every voice that opposess theirs should no longer have one...for our saftey. I dont see those calls from the right. Very liberal of them.

 

Just not seeing the threat you do from that side and you have not articulated much substance as real world effects. It mostly sounds like fear of what may happen. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2023 by Buffarukus

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[BillsFanNC]

 

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[Pokebball]

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Do you think Trump would be successful in remaining in power? 

 

Personally, I'm 100% sure he would not be.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Huh, strange.  Saying things are not the same is completely disregarding?  I question your comprehension but perhaps it's my wording.  All the left wing rioting/civil disobedience was wrong - all that broke the law should be jailed.  Still, it is not even in the same stratosphere as the damage from J6 and the new conservative party of alternative fact/conspiracy mongering.  The right's loons are more numerous, and far more dangerous to our democracy.  Thankfully they are observably stupid so you can usually see them coming from far off.  

Your wording was problematic only in the sense that what you thought you were saying, and what you actually said, was not the same thing.  If it helps you in some small way to assume I didn't understand what you didn't say, I'm happy to shoulder that burden. 

 

We can agree that Jan 6 was a stain on our nation.  Interestingly, you stumbled upon something that has been quite troubling to me.  You wrote:

 

Thankfully they are observably stupid so you can usually see them coming from far off.  

 

If you, a guy who can't remember from one post to another what he wrote, can "see them coming from far off", how did a bunch of crazies overrun the Capitol in less time than it takes to get through the gate(s) at a Bills home game?   And, why are three years in with so many questions unanswered as to who was responsible for security, how they completely missed the warning signs even you can see, and what has been done to ensure it never happens again?

 

 

[Buffarukus]

16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Your wording was problematic only in the sense that what you thought you were saying, and what you actually said, was not the same thing.  If it helps you in some small way to assume I didn't understand what you didn't say, I'm happy to shoulder that burden. 

 

We can agree that Jan 6 was a stain on our nation.  Interestingly, you stumbled upon something that has been quite troubling to me.  You wrote:

 

Thankfully they are observably stupid so you can usually see them coming from far off.  

 

If you, a guy who can't remember from one post to another what he wrote, can "see them coming from far off", how did a bunch of crazies overrun the Capitol in less time than it takes to get through the gate(s) at a Bills home game?   And, why are three years in with so many questions unanswered as to who was responsible for security, how they completely missed the warning signs even you can see, and what has been done to ensure it never happens again?

 

 

 

Id personally like to know the difference between a fundamental attack on our democracy and a very mild ignorable seige on the WH. One that burned a historic church until our president is sent in a bunker. I remembered alot of laughing and mocking of the event.

 

is the security required to prevent the perpetrators the only difference here? Seems like it. If so, not alot of attention on the people responsable for the complete lack of providing it on JAN 6th. 

 

Guess trump should have had lax security and have segments open the gates the same way. It might not be so easily ignored then.

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Pokebball said:

Do you think Trump would be successful in remaining in power? 

 

Personally, I'm 100% sure he would not be.

 

Who would stop him?

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Who would stop him?

Law enforcement, if it even got that far.

[TheBrownBear]

47 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

I talk about what liberalism stood for. How it no longer resembles itself and has flipped its values. Instead you pull out the comparison to MAGA. Its gross?

 

I can go on. I did.  But this isnt small "cultural bs" just because you do not  have the capacity to care about the effects or dont believe they are true. These are major shifts in society whether you acknowledge them or not. Then when i ask for a comparison, i get the below.

 

Im not sure what you get in your feed. I also dont care. I think your an adult who can make a logical distinction between bs and truth. what you think should be directed toward X to make ignoring authors or topics easier. But thats not what the left wants. They want to decide for me. They dont seem concerned about gov encroachment in those decisions for others. They think words are violence and every voice that opposes theirs should no longer have one...for our safety. I dont see those calls from the right. Very liberal of them.

 

Thank you for articulating what it feels like to be a disaffected liberal Democrat.  There is a growing authoritarianism on the left that is both disheartening and a bit frightening, and there are large swaths of under-40 types on the left who strongly identify as anarchists and/or Marxists, especially young women.  My wife, her friends, and basically every late-millennial early Gen-Zer she teaches in her college program ascribe to this new way of thinking.  Shutdown, shame and eject any heterodox thought that could possibly challenge current social justice dogma.  Go watch the Evergreen State or Yale Halloween struggle session videos.  That is the type of illiberalism that is inculcated in young progressives who are now taking the reins of power in our institutions.  For anyone not already indoctrinated in their church, this should alarm you.

 

When I rant about this stuff, it has nothing to do with Trump or implicate any sort of support for him or right-wing politics in general.  Just because they happen to be correct about Woke insanity, doesn't mean I believe they are correct about much of anything else.  As far as I'm concerned, Trump has fascist tendencies and I do not trust him with what remains of our democracy.  I will continue to support traditional liberal Democratic ideals, but I won't sit silently while the party is hijacked by formerly fringe weirdos.  

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

There is a growing authoritarianism on the left that is both disheartening and a bit frightening, and there are large swaths of under-40 types on the left who strongly identify as anarchists and/or Marxists, especially young women. 

 

Hoax