Buffalo Sabres & NHL 2020-2021

[May Day 10]

32 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

 

 

Regardless, I am sure Kruger will be gone.  Adams I think deserves a shot to bring in a HC that he feels matches how he wants to build a team, and given his experience in the league he should have a pretty good idea what he thinks will work.  And before he looks for a HC,  if I'm Terry and Kim I have Adams spend some time with McD and Beane to discuss general philosophies and methods to establish the process and culture he wants and needs.  Then Terry and Kim need to let him do it, and if that means moving a ton of players out fine by me.  I don't think they need a President of Hockey; they need a competent GM and HC that are in sync for once, and they need to make it clear to the players who drives the bus.

And for God's sakes find a goaile!

 

the problem i have with this, is Adams doesnt have any experience.  Not even as AGM that guys like Drury, Brodeur, Francis, Sakic, Yzerman etc do for years.  Adams has spent time under PS&E performing roles not closely related to the hockey department at all.  His limited experience comes here with the Sabres at this clown college.  

His appeal to the Pegulas is that he has an education, played hockey and lives in Buffalo, a nice guy, and is willing to completely be subservient to ownership and probably Krueger/the coach.  That is not a real GM, and I have no interest in the Sabres allowing him to try to learn on the job.  This is a massive lift to restore this franchise and needs experienced hands from the outside, who is given full autonomy from the Pegulas.  They dont even allow their GMs to choose and move on from their coach anymore.  They will never attract a serious candidate like that.

 

Furthermore, they completely pooped on their reputation with what they pulled this Summer with some pretty awful cold-hearted moves.   This organization has a credibility issue on all fronts and needs a Rutherford/Lombardi/Dudley to restore it.

[The Jokeman]

15 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

the problem i have with this, is Adams doesnt have any experience.  Not even as AGM that guys like Drury, Brodeur, Francis, Sakic, Yzerman etc do for years.  Adams has spent time under PS&E performing roles not closely related to the hockey department at all.  His limited experience comes here with the Sabres at this clown college.  

His appeal to the Pegulas is that he has an education, played hockey and lives in Buffalo, a nice guy, and is willing to completely be subservient to ownership and probably Krueger/the coach.  That is not a real GM, and I have no interest in the Sabres allowing him to try to learn on the job.  This is a massive lift to restore this franchise and needs experienced hands from the outside, who is given full autonomy from the Pegulas.  They dont even allow their GMs to choose and move on from their coach anymore.  They will never attract a serious candidate like that.

 

Furthermore, they completely pooped on their reputation with what they pulled this Summer with some pretty awful cold-hearted moves.   This organization has a credibility issue on all fronts and needs a Rutherford/Lombardi/Dudley to restore it.

I'd love to see Mike Peca behind the bench but think we burned a bridge with him since he's coaching in Washington and no longer part of the organization anymore. 

[May Day 10]

To me, who is behind the bench isnt even important anymore.  Coaches in the NHL are basically throw-away mercenaries with few exceptions.  The Pegulas seem to be looking for a life-partner.   You also need your GM to hold the clout and be free to fire/hire the coach as needed.  

 

They need to fix the structure and the manning of the front office.  A complete overhaul is necessary.  Someone who has high-level front office experience in multiple organizations and has experienced a winner(s).  Any coach will have very little chance to succeed.  If they do grab a really good coach, they may see a temporary bump for a few months but it will crater.  

 

Watching Kim Pegula implement her management 101 night school concepts, Terry pretending he has some incredible ability to read-judge-and hire people, Krueger's phony six-sigma shtick is enough to drive me to the mad-house.  

[Greg S]

7 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

To me, who is behind the bench isnt even important anymore.  Coaches in the NHL are basically throw-away mercenaries with few exceptions.  The Pegulas seem to be looking for a life-partner.   You also need your GM to hold the clout and be free to fire/hire the coach as needed.  

 

They need to fix the structure and the manning of the front office.  A complete overhaul is necessary.  Someone who has high-level front office experience in multiple organizations and has experienced a winner(s).  Any coach will have very little chance to succeed.  If they do grab a really good coach, they may see a temporary bump for a few months but it will crater.  

 

Watching Kim Pegula implement her management 101 night school concepts, Terry pretending he has some incredible ability to read-judge-and hire people, Krueger's phony six-sigma shtick is enough to drive me to the mad-house.  

 

I would disagree with this. Look at the Isles with Barry Trotz. Talent wise on paper the Isles are OK but their are other teams that have better rosters. Trotz took them to ECF last year and has them in 1st Place (so far) this year. Coaching does matter. I agree with those who suggest the Sabres need to bring in an experienced hockey man to run the show. Let them evaluate the GM, HC, players, scouts, everything and make the necessary changes. It's what the Isles did when they gave total control to Lou Lamoriello and look at them now. The Pegula's have gotten it right with the Bills but they are failing miserably with the Sabres.

[May Day 10]

I said with few exceptions.  Trotz would be one of them (maybe the only one?)   Lou also has made an art-form of tossing coaches into the trash can, even in 1st place weeks from the playoffs.  Trotz though is probably the 1 guy you would mold your team around.  Everyone else in the league has a limited shelf-life.

Edited March 16, 2021 by May Day 10

[oldmanfan]

49 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

the problem i have with this, is Adams doesnt have any experience.  Not even as AGM that guys like Drury, Brodeur, Francis, Sakic, Yzerman etc do for years.  Adams has spent time under PS&E performing roles not closely related to the hockey department at all.  His limited experience comes here with the Sabres at this clown college.  

His appeal to the Pegulas is that he has an education, played hockey and lives in Buffalo, a nice guy, and is willing to completely be subservient to ownership and probably Krueger/the coach.  That is not a real GM, and I have no interest in the Sabres allowing him to try to learn on the job.  This is a massive lift to restore this franchise and needs experienced hands from the outside, who is given full autonomy from the Pegulas.  They dont even allow their GMs to choose and move on from their coach anymore.  They will never attract a serious candidate like that.

 

Furthermore, they completely pooped on their reputation with what they pulled this Summer with some pretty awful cold-hearted moves.   This organization has a credibility issue on all fronts and needs a Rutherford/Lombardi/Dudley to restore it.

I could see having Duds consult at the very least

[May Day 10]

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I could see having Duds consult at the very least

 

Apparently they spoke this Summer but the Pegulas decided against it.

 

He would be perfect IMO.  He has been in numerous organizations in many roles, and has seen what works and what doesnt.  Lots of credibility and he likely has a huge rolodex of contacts and people who can be hired.

[BillsFan4]

On 3/14/2021 at 2:57 PM, oldmanfan said:

What exactly should the Sabres have done when O'Reilly basically said he wanted out and wouldn't play hard for the Sabres?  All this stems from having a kid whose motivation to play is questionable as captain.  Now I hope Eichel is not hurt badly of course; neck injuries are terrible and we should all hope this does not end the kid's career.  But when I say kid, I mean kid.  He has no business being the captain of the team.  Your captain has to lead, to motivate, to demand accountability.  Is there any evidence he does so?

 

Is there really any evidence that the players on this team are motivated, that they are hungry to win?  Not that I can see, except for a young guy like Cozens who will actually go hard into a corner and fight for the puck.  Get a captain worthy of the title, get guys on the team that give a damn, and if you have players that cannot sack up and play hard they are useless and need to go away.

ROR never said he wanted out or wouldn’t play hard for the Sabres. He said all the losing made him question his love for the game at multiple points during the season and that type of losing minds set had to change. He was 100% right.

He also directly said that he did not want to be traded.

 

He was saying that the losing mind set is unacceptable. Said that it even crept into his own game at times and it had to change. Called it out in the press and was immediately shipped out the door by the Pegulas (rumors from Sabres beat writers and Elliott Friedman are they demanded he be traded before the bonus was due).

He went to St. Louis, was one of the main reasons they won a Cup and is now their team captain. He has since said that having some veteran leadership around him made all the difference.

I never really questioned ROR’s effort on the ice, outside of maybe a few occasional shifts (but the same could be said of almost any player). He was usually the last guy on the ice at practice every day too. 
 

I agree with you that the players deserve much of the blame, but I disagree that this all stems from Eichel. He’s been about the only Sabre to consistently perform every season. 
 

Eichel wasn’t even in the lineup last night. How was he supposed to motivate the players to play?
 

 

IMO What should have been done is surround ROR and Eichel with more veteran talent. 
 

The Sabres have had some type of organizational philosophy in place from the start of the rebuild that if they made any big trades or moves it had to be for guys 25 or younger (Tim Murray used to say this often).

 

That sounds good in theory, but what did any of these 25yr old players know about winning in the NHL? 
 

ROR came from losing in Colorado.

Kane & Bogosian came from losing in Winnipeg

 

Eichel gets blamed for not being a good enough leader but who has he ever had to teach him or help him? Besides other young guys that came from losing or washed up veterans at the ends of their career?

 

Eichel had an MVP worthy campaign last season and almost single handedly carrier the whole team the majority of the year. He’s been responsible for something like 60% of the Sabres offense in his career here. No other player in the NHL besides McDavid has carried play for their team more than Eichel.

 

His attitude definitely isn’t the best at times. He doesn’t handle losing the greatest (because he hates to lose) and tends to show his frustrations (poor facial expressions, breaking his stick, etc) but he has improved in that area quite a bit as he’s matured. And he’s still a kid. He just recently turned 24. 

 

Who else has even been worthy of the captaincy in Eichel’s time here (since Gionta left)? Maybe ROR? 

 

There was a really good article over on the athletic where Tim Graham interviewed a bunch of the Sabres ex captains. It’s a good read if you have an athletic subscription. They sum up a lot of the issues with the Sabres pretty well.

 

Heres some of what they had to say on Eichel and leadership:

https://theathletic.com/2426679/2021/03/05/former-sabres-captains-weigh-in-on-teams-woes-a-whole-new-kind-of-unwatchable/
 

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I feel bad for Jack Eichel. He gets a bad rap because he has gone through so many coaches and GMs in a short time. Maybe some of it is his fault because he calls the organization out, but he doesn’t have any kind of leadership around him to show him the right way.

 

Giving him the “C” when they did looks great on paper, to be able to show the NHL your 20-year-old star is a captain so early in his career. Just look at our franchise player! But in reality, you’ve put a tremendous amount of pressure on a very young player.
 

You need to bring in more character to surround Eichel, Dahlin, Reinhart, Ristolainen. A good core of young players exists for the Sabres to build around, but you have to surround them with better leaders. You look up and down the current roster and don’t see any names you could point to as someone to keep everything together. Who does Jack Eichel look to? Taylor Hall, who was part of an Edmonton team that learned how to lose? Who bails out Jack Eichel? 

 Another captain:
 

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Leadership is a huge question mark. I can’t judge the character in the locker room because I’m not in there, and I don’t know Jack Eichel well enough to know if he’s an effective leader, but I do know that players need to be taught how to be leaders. They traded for Eric Staal, who provides veteran leadership, but does he really want to be there? Staal was traded to Buffalo. He didn’t sign there by choice. I’m no GM, but three or four years ago I would have surrounded Eichel with two or three older veterans and even been willing to overpay them to make sure they’re happy and want to be in Buffalo and willing to teach Eichel what being a leader means.

 

You need to create that culture. Everybody talks about culture, but what is culture? You can’t just conjure it up from one day to the next. It takes years. Right now, the Sabres’ culture is Jack Eichel. Think about that. And the entire time it has been losing, losing, losing. He’s not learning from anyone how to be a winner...

 

...We can go back eight years, and I just don’t see too many leaders. They haven’t done anything. They haven’t been anywhere. They don’t make a difference.

 

They also said it is on coaching to correct this. One mentioned that Krueger looks in over his head and they have no idea what his system is supposed to be.

 

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Getting out of that is up to the coach. The rah-rah days are gone in sports. “Let’s go out and kick their asses” doesn’t work with today’s players. Although I did like seeing Dylan Cozens fight Tuesday night. That was just a frustrated Western Hockey League kid who wanted to stand up and be counted. But that’s not enough.

 

I can’t figure out what style Krueger wants them to play. Maybe you can. “Confusion” might be what it’s called. So changing lines won’t do anything. You have to change your style. You can’t force a style if it doesn’t fit your roster. You have to roll out a style your players can provide. They have really good players with one goal or two goals.

...I just think Ralph’s in over his head...

 

 

I agree 100% that the core of this team needs to change, and drastically. I also agree that a lot of the blame rests with the players and that we can’t keep cycling through coaches. I think they need to find a good coach and stick with him. Changing philosophies every 2-3 years makes it impossible to build anything.

 

But before we do something drastic like trade our young franchise player that we tanked 2 straight seasons to get, I’d sure like to see what this team looks like with an actual proven successful NHL coach like Bruce Boudreau (who would reportedly love to coach here) and some actual veteran talent around him. The Sabres have yet to hire a proven veteran coach since Dan Bylsma (who wasn’t exactly a top tier coach but still has the best overall record of any Sabres coach since Lindy ruff. No coach since has matched his 81pt season). If the Sabres hire someone like Boudreau, who’s improved + won with every team he’s ever coached and only missed the playoffs once (or twice) in his entire career, and this team still can’t improve then you know 100% it’s the players. Right now, coaching is just as big a question mark as the players, if not bigger. 
 

When every single solitary player on the team is underperforming it’s hard not to blame the coaching staff. 

Who else do you blame for an entire roster underperforming? 

 

Housley had no real experience. Krueger had no real experience. We now have a totally inexperienced rookie GM with no prior NHL front office experience who was running a junior hockey program a couple years ago. He has No assistant GMs. 1/2 a scouting staff. Inexperienced rookie heads of pro and amateur scouting.

Id like to at least see what an experienced coach can do before this current rookie crew trades away our best players.

31 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

Apparently they spoke this Summer but the Pegulas decided against it.

 

He would be perfect IMO.  He has been in numerous organizations in many roles, and has seen what works and what doesnt.  Lots of credibility and he likely has a huge rolodex of contacts and people who can be hired.

He also designed + implemented the exact scouting system (in Carolina) the Sabres are now trying to put in place, and he knows how to maximize a small budget.

 

He was actually interested in coming here too. But Like you said, for whatever reason the Pegulas decided not to bring him in.

 

He really would have been the perfect hire (assuming he was empowered to make the changes that needed to be made). 

Edited March 16, 2021 by BillsFan4

[oldmanfan]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

ROR never said he wanted out or wouldn’t play hard for the Sabres. He said all the losing made him question his love for the game at multiple points during the season and that type of losing minds set had to change. He was 100% right.

He also directly said that he did not want to be traded.

 

He was saying that the losing mind set is unacceptable. Said that it even crept into his own game at times and it had to change. Called it out in the press and was immediately shipped out the door by the Pegulas (rumors from Sabres beat writers and Elliott Friedman are they demanded he be traded before the bonus was due).

He went to St. Louis, was one of the main reasons they won a Cup and is now their team captain. He has since said that having some veteran leadership around him made all the difference.

I never really questioned ROR’s effort on the ice, outside of maybe a few occasional shifts (but the same could be said of almost any player). He was usually the last guy on the ice at practice every day too. 
 

I agree with you that the players deserve much of the blame, but I disagree that this all stems from Eichel. He’s been about the only Sabre to consistently perform every season. 
 

Eichel wasn’t even in the lineup last night. How was he supposed to motivate the players to play?
 

 

IMO What should have been done is surround ROR and Eichel with more veteran talent. 
 

The Sabres have had some type of organizational philosophy in place from the start of the rebuild that if they made any big trades or moves it had to be for guys 25 or younger (Tim Murray used to say this often).

 

That sounds good in theory, but what did any of these 25yr old players know about winning in the NHL? 
 

ROR came from losing in Colorado.

Kane & Bogosian came from losing in Winnipeg

 

Eichel gets blamed for not being a good enough leader but who has he ever had to teach him or help him? Besides other young guys that came from losing or washed up veterans at the ends of their career?

 

Eichel had an MVP worthy campaign last season and almost single handedly carrier the whole team the majority of the year. He’s been responsible for something like 60% of the Sabres offense in his career here. No other player in the NHL besides McDavid has carried play for their team more than Eichel.

 

His attitude definitely isn’t the best at times. He doesn’t handle losing the greatest (because he hates to lose) and tends to show his frustrations (poor facial expressions, breaking his stick, etc) but he has improved in that area quite a bit as he’s matured. And he’s still a kid. He just recently turned 24. 

 

Who else has even been worthy of the captaincy in Eichel’s time here (since Gionta left)? Maybe ROR? 

 

There was a really good article over on the athletic where Tim Graham interviewed a bunch of the Sabres ex captains. It’s a good read if you have an athletic subscription. They sum up a lot of the issues with the Sabres pretty well.

 

Heres some of what they had to say on Eichel and leadership:

https://theathletic.com/2426679/2021/03/05/former-sabres-captains-weigh-in-on-teams-woes-a-whole-new-kind-of-unwatchable/
 

 Another captain:
 

 

They also said it is on coaching to correct this. One mentioned that Krueger looks in over his head and they have no idea what his system is supposed to be.

 

 

 

I agree 100% that the core of this team needs to change, and drastically. I also agree that a lot of the blame rests with the players and that we can’t keep cycling through coaches. I think they need to find a good coach and stick with him. Changing philosophies every 2-3 years makes it impossible to build anything.

 

But before we do something drastic like trade our young franchise player that we tanked 2 straight seasons to get, I’d sure like to see what this team looks like with an actual proven successful NHL coach like Bruce Boudreau (who would reportedly love to coach here) and some actual veteran talent around him. The Sabres have yet to hire a proven veteran coach since Dan Bylsma (who wasn’t exactly a top tier coach but still has the best overall record of any Sabres coach since Lindy ruff. No coach since has matched his 81pt season). If the Sabres hire someone like Boudreau, who’s improved + won with every team he’s ever coached and only missed the playoffs once (or twice) in his entire career, and this team still can’t improve then you know 100% it’s the players. Right now, coaching is just as big a question mark as the players, if not bigger. 
 

When every single solitary player on the team is underperforming it’s hard not to blame the coaching staff. 

Who else do you blame for an entire roster underperforming? 

 

Housley had no real experience. Krueger had no real experience. We now have a totally inexperienced rookie GM with no prior NHL front office experience who was running a junior hockey program a couple years ago. He has No assistant GMs. 1/2 a scouting staff. Inexperienced rookie heads of pro and amateur scouting.

Id like to at least see what an experienced coach can do before this current rookie crew trades away our best players.

He also designed + implemented the exact scouting system (in Carolina) the Sabres are now trying to put in place, and he knows how to maximize a small budget.

 

He was actually interested in coming here too. But Like you said, for whatever reason the Pegulas decided not to bring him in.

 

He really would have been the perfect hire (assuming he was empowered to make the changes that needed to be made). 

Great stuff here.  Good dialog.  

[K-9]

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

ROR never said he wanted out or wouldn’t play hard for the Sabres. He said all the losing made him question his love for the game at multiple points during the season and that type of losing minds set had to change. He was 100% right.

He also directly said that he did not want to be traded.

 

He was saying that the losing mind set is unacceptable. Said that it even crept into his own game at times and it had to change. Called it out in the press and was immediately shipped out the door by the Pegulas (rumors from Sabres beat writers and Elliott Friedman are they demanded he be traded before the bonus was due).

He went to St. Louis, was one of the main reasons they won a Cup and is now their team captain. He has since said that having some veteran leadership around him made all the difference.

I never really questioned ROR’s effort on the ice, outside of maybe a few occasional shifts (but the same could be said of almost any player). He was usually the last guy on the ice at practice every day too. 
 

I agree with you that the players deserve much of the blame, but I disagree that this all stems from Eichel. He’s been about the only Sabre to consistently perform every season. 
 

Eichel wasn’t even in the lineup last night. How was he supposed to motivate the players to play?
 

 

IMO What should have been done is surround ROR and Eichel with more veteran talent. 
 

The Sabres have had some type of organizational philosophy in place from the start of the rebuild that if they made any big trades or moves it had to be for guys 25 or younger (Tim Murray used to say this often).

 

That sounds good in theory, but what did any of these 25yr old players know about winning in the NHL? 
 

ROR came from losing in Colorado.

Kane & Bogosian came from losing in Winnipeg

 

Eichel gets blamed for not being a good enough leader but who has he ever had to teach him or help him? Besides other young guys that came from losing or washed up veterans at the ends of their career?

 

Eichel had an MVP worthy campaign last season and almost single handedly carrier the whole team the majority of the year. He’s been responsible for something like 60% of the Sabres offense in his career here. No other player in the NHL besides McDavid has carried play for their team more than Eichel.

 

His attitude definitely isn’t the best at times. He doesn’t handle losing the greatest (because he hates to lose) and tends to show his frustrations (poor facial expressions, breaking his stick, etc) but he has improved in that area quite a bit as he’s matured. And he’s still a kid. He just recently turned 24. 

 

Who else has even been worthy of the captaincy in Eichel’s time here (since Gionta left)? Maybe ROR? 

 

There was a really good article over on the athletic where Tim Graham interviewed a bunch of the Sabres ex captains. It’s a good read if you have an athletic subscription. They sum up a lot of the issues with the Sabres pretty well.

 

Heres some of what they had to say on Eichel and leadership:

https://theathletic.com/2426679/2021/03/05/former-sabres-captains-weigh-in-on-teams-woes-a-whole-new-kind-of-unwatchable/
 

 Another captain:
 

 

They also said it is on coaching to correct this. One mentioned that Krueger looks in over his head and they have no idea what his system is supposed to be.

 

 

 

I agree 100% that the core of this team needs to change, and drastically. I also agree that a lot of the blame rests with the players and that we can’t keep cycling through coaches. I think they need to find a good coach and stick with him. Changing philosophies every 2-3 years makes it impossible to build anything.

 

But before we do something drastic like trade our young franchise player that we tanked 2 straight seasons to get, I’d sure like to see what this team looks like with an actual proven successful NHL coach like Bruce Boudreau (who would reportedly love to coach here) and some actual veteran talent around him. The Sabres have yet to hire a proven veteran coach since Dan Bylsma (who wasn’t exactly a top tier coach but still has the best overall record of any Sabres coach since Lindy ruff. No coach since has matched his 81pt season). If the Sabres hire someone like Boudreau, who’s improved + won with every team he’s ever coached and only missed the playoffs once (or twice) in his entire career, and this team still can’t improve then you know 100% it’s the players. Right now, coaching is just as big a question mark as the players, if not bigger. 
 

When every single solitary player on the team is underperforming it’s hard not to blame the coaching staff. 

Who else do you blame for an entire roster underperforming? 

 

Housley had no real experience. Krueger had no real experience. We now have a totally inexperienced rookie GM with no prior NHL front office experience who was running a junior hockey program a couple years ago. He has No assistant GMs. 1/2 a scouting staff. Inexperienced rookie heads of pro and amateur scouting.

Id like to at least see what an experienced coach can do before this current rookie crew trades away our best players.

He also designed + implemented the exact scouting system (in Carolina) the Sabres are now trying to put in place, and he knows how to maximize a small budget.

 

He was actually interested in coming here too. But Like you said, for whatever reason the Pegulas decided not to bring him in.

 

He really would have been the perfect hire (assuming he was empowered to make the changes that needed to be made). 

Exposing Reinhart, Eichel, and other young players to the likes of Kane and Bogosian was Murray’s biggest mistake. Bogosian, especially, is the poster boy for a player that’s perfectly comfortable with losing. 

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Exposing Reinhart, Eichel, and other young players to the likes of Kane and Bogosian was Murray’s biggest mistake. Bogosian, especially, is the poster boy for a player that’s perfectly comfortable with losing. 

And Kane was so enamored with it that when he wasn't losing on the ice he was busy losing at the tables in Vegas to the point where he has lost his NHL career.  You have to admire his commitment to losing.

[4merper4mer]

20 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Exposing Reinhart, Eichel, and other young players to the likes of Kane and Bogosian was Murray’s biggest mistake. Bogosian, especially, is the poster boy for a player that’s perfectly comfortable with losing. 

Don’t forget getting a goalie who had severe mental issues.  I’m glad he turned things around but he hurt the team and cost resources.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

Bills: 13 wins in a 16-game season.

Sabres: 6 wins in a 56-game season.

[thenorthremembers]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Whoever called him the Dick Jauron of Sabres coaches was dead on.   The guy was way over his head.

Edited March 17, 2021 by thenorthremembers

[K-9]

The irony of Skinner scoring our last goal in Ralph’s tenure is downright poetic.

[Beerball]

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, Beerball said:

Yolo!!!  Get OUT!!!  😳

[May Day 10]

Bottom line is they still have an organization in shambles.  Kevyn Adams has no experience or qualifications, nor it is it clear he even has authority.  They have this Nightengale intern level guy upjumped to head up like 3 departments.  Nothing is changing here.  I expect them to dive into the milquetoast pool of NCAA coaches who almost never work out.

 

 

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Bottom line is they still have an organization in shambles.  Kevyn Adams has no experience or qualifications, nor it is it clear he even has authority.  They have this Nightengale intern level guy upjumped to head up like 3 departments.  Nothing is changing here.  I expect them to dive into the milquetoast pool of NCAA coaches who almost never work out.

 

 

Krueger being fired was kinda exciting until you think about Kevyn Adams or Kim Pegula hiring the next coach.  Maybe with the price of WTI back at $65 PSE can afford a total reorg and put someone competent in charge of the hockey operations.