GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 It's difficult for White Americans to talk about race, for a number of reasons. 1) The language is incomplete. For as much as we talk about it, we still only have the one root word - "race" - and various derivatives, racism, racist, etc. 2) It is deliberate intentional manipulation to ensure, above all else, that White People are discouraged to think about race. 3) If a White Person is forced to think about race, our culture has provided many convenient and quick explanations and dismissals in order to stop thinking about it So it makes sense that it seems like nobody can agree on basic What is racism?Racism is the systemic oppression of people based on their physical character.What is prejudice, and how is it different?Prejudice is the action of making assumptions about people based on their identity. Prejudice is different from racism because "pre judging" is a human brain function in response to incomplete information. It is the brain's version of auto-correct, and can only be turned off through learning. But prejudice can never be eliminated completely any more than fear can be eliminated. On the other hand, racism is a human-made mental framework for viewing other humans that is entirely optional. What you're saying is prejudice is what racism is, though. And even the dictionary... ...will show you multiple definitions; these two definitions. The previous understanding of racism as being simply a matter of character allowed White America to go a few generations thinking, "As long as I don't scream the N word at an N word, I am pretty much not racist." In other words, language evolves.What is discrimination, and how is it different?Discrimination is the action of categorizing the abilities of people based on their identity.Am I racist?Probably, but you don't have to be racist. If you are born white in America, you are experiencing life with the benefits of racism. "You", as in your identity, are not any more "racist" than you are "American" or "capitalist" — as in, you are free to choose your identity. We've all been programmed to accept our American and capitalist identities very explicitly. We have also been programmed to accept our racist identities, too, just much less explicitly, and never by its name. Oh great. So all white people are racist? In the sense that they are born into racism, yes. And the actions they take before understanding their complicity are racist, because they perpetuate the system. In the sense that white people have to be racist, no. White people can choose to be anti-racist, but good intentions don't count; this is only measured in action. Sorry! There is nothing you can do about it. White Americans are born into being racist, by design. Thankfully, the result is that White Americans live in a country largely built for their pleasure and benefit, at the expense of exploited minority groups. Being born into racism for White Americans means hundreds of years of access to opportunities like education and generational wealth in a rigged system. It's unfortunate that generations of White Americans are born into this system they did not initially create themselves, but as far as the confines of slavery go... COULD BE WORSE!!!!!! Why don't Americans know more about race?You mean "white Americans," of course. Every other race in America experiences racism first-hand on a daily basis. White people are specifically taught not to think about race. This teaching is given to them implicitly, and explicitly ("it's not polite").Famously, COINTELPRO concocted many of the methods still in use today to distract white Americans from racism, and to discredit the claims of black Americans. It's the textbook definition of mind control, and we've all been subjected to the fruits of this labor.In other words, if you are a white American who is only now confronting the reality of race — it's okay. You are forgiven. You literally were not supposed to know. Admittedly, people have been telling you for a long time, but, you know. Better late than never. Welcome aboard.What is a bigot, and how is that different?A bigot is a person who has chosen hateful discrimination as their identity.Can a black person be racist?Yes. Racist should be thought of as a verb, not a noun. Candace Owens is racist when she supports the structures of systemic oppression. Barack Obama being elected is not racist; it tears down those structures. Obama's response to Trayvon Martin's shooting is racist; it upholds those structures.Can a black person be racist to a white person?No. There is no action that can be taken that will remove the white person's inherent advantages of being born into a society built to benefit them. Any person can be prejudiced (ie, "all white people marry their cousins") but it is not racism. Ironically, you could hate black people and still oppose racism — prejudice is inherent to the human condition. Racism is a construct.Isn't "Affirmative Action" racist against whites?Not in the least, and not only is this question stupid, it's offensive in the way it uses the white system of control over black Americans as a way to reframe the issue with white beneficiaries of racism as somehow also the victims.Affirmative Action is the mandate that hiring decisions consider applicants' accomplishments with the historical context of racism in mind. Applicants born into generational advantages in education and wealth will naturally have more impressive resumes than applicants who were denied those advantages.In other words, Affirmative Action is just asking corporate America to consider the country's actual history in their evaluation of human potential. This remains controversial.What about meritocracy?Meritocracy is a lie sold to poor people by rich people. Meritocracy is the idea that the differences in opportunities and rewards for people is earned by their individual value. Whatever your station, it is deserved. This benefits white people as another way to ignore the reality of racism. If cream rises to the top, how is Donald Trump president? "Manifest Destiny" is a similar idea, and justified Americans to declare the genocide of Native Americans to be legal. If our definition of meritocracy is simply what the most effective method is, then the proper way for people to protest would be to use the same methods White Americans did to conquer the country for themselves. It is by the grace of God that oppressed people have never been out for vengeance on White America, only peace. White people have responded to each overture with manipulation and violence, and never reconciliation or aide.Doesn't history prove white people are objectively superior?There is no such thing as objectivity. Objectivity imposes the idea that reality can be measured outside of perception with absolute certainty. This is a method of control to remove responsibility for decision making in enforcing the status quo, of what you are told is "objective truth." For example — White Kevin's resume has tons of experience; Black Marquita's does not. It is objectively true that Kevin's resume is more impressive, just on the merits.The decision to discriminate against black people then becomes automatic; unthinking. With each individual racist action (every time HR chooses Kevin), the overall racism grows stronger.Isn't this problem too big to ever really solve? What's the point of talking about it?Pessimism is also a form of control on white Americans, who are are intentionally programmed to feel uncomfortable and attacked on the subject of race. The desire is in there, on a gut level, to want to either check out ("I need to take a break from social media") or move on ("We need to come together and unify") or avoid it completely ("racism isn't a day-to-day problem for most people; this ended a long time ago").You will be provided many types of excuses to ignore racism. Racism works only if unexamined.What does something from hundreds of years ago have to do with me?Are you concerned that the US might devolve into being a fascist death cult like Nazi Germany? What if you learned America has been systemically imprisoning and executing minority populations for many many many decades longer?If killing 6+ million Jewish people in Europe was the worst crime against humanity you could imagine, wait until you hear about the generations of torture and death white America has applied to black America.I regret to inform you that this war crime is ongoing. The police and prison industry in America has modernized the "classic" form of Southern slavery but the overall effect is the same. Consider a newly egregious example: marijuana is legal in many states and soon nationwide. White America is profiting from selling it legally. Black America was criminalized for selling it. Thousands of Americans, all POC or Black, remain in jail to this day and even in states where marijuana is now fully legalized. This is one example of the double standard applied, and the ways Black Americans have been systemically plundered, punished, humiliated, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for the benefit of White America.If I'm not a black American, shouldn't I just be quiet and listen?You should listen first, and then you should talk — and talk a lot.White America has never gone out of its way to help Black America, as a group. Only in the most desperate times they kind of show up — Civil War and maybe 60s Civil Rights — and even then it was not a full commitment in any way.That is changing, and must continue to change. Black Americans and POC cannot be expected to be fight this battle alone. But I'm a straight white male...And you have value. Racism insists that your only value is that you are a straight white male. You have far more value than that. You can demonstrate it by exposing the lie of racism. Your appearance and treatment affords you many privileges exclusive to you. This enables you to be the "inside man" of the operation. You can blend among racists, and find it easier. Someone who behaves racist may conceal this trait around a black person, but reveal it to you. It is your duty and moral objective to not let it slide when you're given the opportunity. Your mission is to confront it and humiliate it. This is your test from God, in a sense.... if you think that "God" simply means "Life" as in capital-l, all living creatures everywhere, the value of the experience of living.Fighting racism is your test from Life itself to show that you believe it has real value. Is that enough incentive? lolWhat can I do to fight racism?Everything matters. Racism was not built in a day. It will not be destroyed in a day. It will require consistent, dedicated attention, talk and action.The problem is very big, and it's not changing shape unless small minds expand. White Americans need to speak out more, and need to challenge the racism in their own communities as much as possible. Not just families and classmates or coworkers or neighbors. But also, all of the online communities you are part of beyond Era or Twitter.At the same time, recognize you are fighting an idea and a system, not an individual or group of individuals. In other words, you're not going to be able to save all hearts and minds. Adults who don't want to learn can't be forced. Racism requires all kinds of delusions and magical thinking; some people want to stay in The Matrix and aren't ready for the reality. Don't let any one person distract you from the larger goal. (This is also why it's not worth "debating" racists. There is nothing to debate. It's very simple, black or white. Black lives matter, or they don't. Neutral is not an option. If you're neutral, you've decided "don't matter" but with extra cowardice.)One thing we can do is to ensure racists are no longer comfortable anywhere. The same tactics of harrassment racists used against minorities can now be used by anybody against anyone who defends or upholds racism. What about donating, protesting, voting, and participating in local government?Obviously these are great too, but you already knew about these. But I know how sometimes it can seem like too much. If you're not in the habit of going to the gym regularly, going for the first time seems impossible. And so it is for these activities.The main takeaway from all of this should be — there is no action too small in the work fighting racism. It all matters. There are all sorts of forms of racism that are microscopic. Racism is everywhere and in everything in America; it is part of the fabric of our society, it's the cotton that made the quilt that helps us all sleep and dream in American.Every little thing matters. The challenge is to not let the upholders of racism succeed yet again in persuading us all to ignore the issue again. Let this be the beginning of generations of Americans who actually take pride in helping other people up, instead of keeping them down. What is going to happen in this thread? Playbook-wise, Racists are operating a ground-n-pound offense. Traditional. Established. Predictable. Reliable. Clockwork. But, to their credit, also bluntly effective. Their overall goal — Stop thinking about racism as soon as possible. By all means necessary, return to the established model. —There will be no shortage of attempts to discredit every thing I am saying. It won't be any thorough response. It will be multiple attempts to take one half of a phrase, contest it on the basis of semantics, and conclude this is why it all needs to be dismissed. —There will be attacks on the messenger; me. These will take the form of various guesses toward my personal identity, and my motivations. Anti-racism is not enough of a reason that racists can understand. There will be conspiracy theories. —There will be a lot, a lot, a lot of people insisting that White people can be the victims of racism, and in fact they are perhaps the BIGGEST victims of racism out of anybody. These claims will go as far as to say any suggestion otherwise is nonsense. They will not see any of the cruel irony in their statements, or if they do, they will not be bothered by them. How can I not be racist?First you understand what it means to be racist, with clarity. And then you work against the systemic oppression of people based on their physical character. If it helps you to understand it, compare American racism like the Christian idea of "being born into sin." (This is why it's called America's "original sin.") You start from a baseline of racism and take positive actions to work toward the redemption of a country built on bull####. It is continual actions. They don't have to be big. It just means not tolerating racism in your life. In your home. In your workplace. In your community. As a White American, you have both the advantages of the racist society, but if you decide to be a hero about it, you also have the advantage of blending in and finding "shameful racists" who only feel comfortable admitting their real hate to other white people. What you can to be Anti-racist is to simply not allow any safe quarter for racists in America, going forward, under any circumstances. This past week is the last moral wake-up call for White America. This is a life-long battle, and neutrality is not an option if you live in American society. Not choosing a side is choosing the side of the racist structure. So if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. tl;dr Racism is not our fault. But it is our responsibility. Racists have been treated with kid gloves for long enough, and need to be made to understood they are no longer welcome in America. The idea of remaining neutral is long gone. You are either horrified by the treatment of black people in America — either you think they are being systemically brutalized by a hateful ideology enacted by unthinking and unfeeling masses, or you think they're whiny idiots who want a free ride and special status as #1 victim. White people, more than anyone, need to nut up and show some backbone. It is time for White America to live up to their stated ideals of freedom, liberty, equality, and justice and enforce those ideals for their countrymen in their home turf. And it's time to stop pretending. This is only a "tough debate" if you can't imagine White Americans ever possibly being a force in the world that isn't entirely destructive. Hope this helps! Peace and love. 1
Johnnycage46 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, GregPersons said: It's difficult for White Americans to talk about race, for a number of reasons. 1) The language is incomplete. For as much as we talk about it, we still only have the one root word - "race" - and various derivatives, racism, racist, etc. 2) It is deliberate intentional manipulation to ensure, above all else, that White People are discouraged to think about race. 3) If a White Person is forced to think about race, our culture has provided many convenient and quick explanations and dismissals in order to stop thinking about it So it makes sense that it seems like nobody can agree on basic What is racism?Racism is the systemic oppression of people based on their physical character.What is prejudice, and how is it different?Prejudice is the action of making assumptions about people based on their identity. Prejudice is different from racism because "pre judging" is a human brain function in response to incomplete information. It is the brain's version of auto-correct, and can only be turned off through learning. But prejudice can never be eliminated completely any more than fear can be eliminated. On the other hand, racism is a human-made mental framework for viewing other humans that is entirely optional. What you're saying is prejudice is what racism is, though. And even the dictionary... ...will show you multiple definitions; these two definitions. The previous understanding of racism as being simply a matter of character allowed White America to go a few generations thinking, "As long as I don't scream the N word at an N word, I am pretty much not racist." In other words, language evolves.What is discrimination, and how is it different?Discrimination is the action of categorizing the abilities of people based on their identity.Am I racist?Probably, but you don't have to be racist. If you are born white in America, you are experiencing life with the benefits of racism. "You", as in your identity, are not any more "racist" than you are "American" or "capitalist" — as in, you are free to choose your identity. We've all been programmed to accept our American and capitalist identities very explicitly. We have also been programmed to accept our racist identities, too, just much less explicitly, and never by its name. Oh great. So all white people are racist? In the sense that they are born into racism, yes. And the actions they take before understanding their complicity are racist, because they perpetuate the system. In the sense that white people have to be racist, no. White people can choose to be anti-racist, but good intentions don't count; this is only measured in action. Sorry! There is nothing you can do about it. White Americans are born into being racist, by design. Thankfully, the result is that White Americans live in a country largely built for their pleasure and benefit, at the expense of exploited minority groups. Being born into racism for White Americans means hundreds of years of access to opportunities like education and generational wealth in a rigged system. It's unfortunate that generations of White Americans are born into this system they did not initially create themselves, but as far as the confines of slavery go... COULD BE WORSE!!!!!! Why don't Americans know more about race?You mean "white Americans," of course. Every other race in America experiences racism first-hand on a daily basis. White people are specifically taught not to think about race. This teaching is given to them implicitly, and explicitly ("it's not polite").Famously, COINTELPRO concocted many of the methods still in use today to distract white Americans from racism, and to discredit the claims of black Americans. It's the textbook definition of mind control, and we've all been subjected to the fruits of this labor.In other words, if you are a white American who is only now confronting the reality of race — it's okay. You are forgiven. You literally were not supposed to know. Admittedly, people have been telling you for a long time, but, you know. Better late than never. Welcome aboard.What is a bigot, and how is that different?A bigot is a person who has chosen hateful discrimination as their identity.Can a black person be racist?Yes. Racist should be thought of as a verb, not a noun. Candace Owens is racist when she supports the structures of systemic oppression. Barack Obama being elected is not racist; it tears down those structures. Obama's response to Trayvon Martin's shooting is racist; it upholds those structures.Can a black person be racist to a white person?No. There is no action that can be taken that will remove the white person's inherent advantages of being born into a society built to benefit them. Any person can be prejudiced (ie, "all white people marry their cousins") but it is not racism. Ironically, you could hate black people and still oppose racism — prejudice is inherent to the human condition. Racism is a construct.Isn't "Affirmative Action" racist against whites?Not in the least, and not only is this question stupid, it's offensive in the way it uses the white system of control over black Americans as a way to reframe the issue with white beneficiaries of racism as somehow also the victims.Affirmative Action is the mandate that hiring decisions consider applicants' accomplishments with the historical context of racism in mind. Applicants born into generational advantages in education and wealth will naturally have more impressive resumes than applicants who were denied those advantages.In other words, Affirmative Action is just asking corporate America to consider the country's actual history in their evaluation of human potential. This remains controversial.What about meritocracy?Meritocracy is a lie sold to poor people by rich people. Meritocracy is the idea that the differences in opportunities and rewards for people is earned by their individual value. Whatever your station, it is deserved. This benefits white people as another way to ignore the reality of racism. If cream rises to the top, how is Donald Trump president? "Manifest Destiny" is a similar idea, and justified Americans to declare the genocide of Native Americans to be legal. If our definition of meritocracy is simply what the most effective method is, then the proper way for people to protest would be to use the same methods White Americans did to conquer the country for themselves. It is by the grace of God that oppressed people have never been out for vengeance on White America, only peace. White people have responded to each overture with manipulation and violence, and never reconciliation or aide.Doesn't history prove white people are objectively superior?There is no such thing as objectivity. Objectivity imposes the idea that reality can be measured outside of perception with absolute certainty. This is a method of control to remove responsibility for decision making in enforcing the status quo, of what you are told is "objective truth." For example — White Kevin's resume has tons of experience; Black Marquita's does not. It is objectively true that Kevin's resume is more impressive, just on the merits.The decision to discriminate against black people then becomes automatic; unthinking. With each individual racist action (every time HR chooses Kevin), the overall racism grows stronger.Isn't this problem too big to ever really solve? What's the point of talking about it?Pessimism is also a form of control on white Americans, who are are intentionally programmed to feel uncomfortable and attacked on the subject of race. The desire is in there, on a gut level, to want to either check out ("I need to take a break from social media") or move on ("We need to come together and unify") or avoid it completely ("racism isn't a day-to-day problem for most people; this ended a long time ago").You will be provided many types of excuses to ignore racism. Racism works only if unexamined.What does something from hundreds of years ago have to do with me?Are you concerned that the US might devolve into being a fascist death cult like Nazi Germany? What if you learned America has been systemically imprisoning and executing minority populations for many many many decades longer?If killing 6+ million Jewish people in Europe was the worst crime against humanity you could imagine, wait until you hear about the generations of torture and death white America has applied to black America.I regret to inform you that this war crime is ongoing. The police and prison industry in America has modernized the "classic" form of Southern slavery but the overall effect is the same. Consider a newly egregious example: marijuana is legal in many states and soon nationwide. White America is profiting from selling it legally. Black America was criminalized for selling it. Thousands of Americans, all POC or Black, remain in jail to this day and even in states where marijuana is now fully legalized. This is one example of the double standard applied, and the ways Black Americans have been systemically plundered, punished, humiliated, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for the benefit of White America.If I'm not a black American, shouldn't I just be quiet and listen?You should listen first, and then you should talk — and talk a lot.White America has never gone out of its way to help Black America, as a group. Only in the most desperate times they kind of show up — Civil War and maybe 60s Civil Rights — and even then it was not a full commitment in any way.That is changing, and must continue to change. Black Americans and POC cannot be expected to be fight this battle alone. But I'm a straight white male...And you have value. Racism insists that your only value is that you are a straight white male. You have far more value than that. You can demonstrate it by exposing the lie of racism. Your appearance and treatment affords you many privileges exclusive to you. This enables you to be the "inside man" of the operation. You can blend among racists, and find it easier. Someone who behaves racist may conceal this trait around a black person, but reveal it to you. It is your duty and moral objective to not let it slide when you're given the opportunity. Your mission is to confront it and humiliate it. This is your test from God, in a sense.... if you think that "God" simply means "Life" as in capital-l, all living creatures everywhere, the value of the experience of living.Fighting racism is your test from Life itself to show that you believe it has real value. Is that enough incentive? lolWhat can I do to fight racism?Everything matters. Racism was not built in a day. It will not be destroyed in a day. It will require consistent, dedicated attention, talk and action.The problem is very big, and it's not changing shape unless small minds expand. White Americans need to speak out more, and need to challenge the racism in their own communities as much as possible. Not just families and classmates or coworkers or neighbors. But also, all of the online communities you are part of beyond Era or Twitter.At the same time, recognize you are fighting an idea and a system, not an individual or group of individuals. In other words, you're not going to be able to save all hearts and minds. Adults who don't want to learn can't be forced. Racism requires all kinds of delusions and magical thinking; some people want to stay in The Matrix and aren't ready for the reality. Don't let any one person distract you from the larger goal. (This is also why it's not worth "debating" racists. There is nothing to debate. It's very simple, black or white. Black lives matter, or they don't. Neutral is not an option. If you're neutral, you've decided "don't matter" but with extra cowardice.)One thing we can do is to ensure racists are no longer comfortable anywhere. The same tactics of harrassment racists used against minorities can now be used by anybody against anyone who defends or upholds racism. What about donating, protesting, voting, and participating in local government?Obviously these are great too, but you already knew about these. But I know how sometimes it can seem like too much. If you're not in the habit of going to the gym regularly, going for the first time seems impossible. And so it is for these activities.The main takeaway from all of this should be — there is no action too small in the work fighting racism. It all matters. There are all sorts of forms of racism that are microscopic. Racism is everywhere and in everything in America; it is part of the fabric of our society, it's the cotton that made the quilt that helps us all sleep and dream in American.Every little thing matters. The challenge is to not let the upholders of racism succeed yet again in persuading us all to ignore the issue again. Let this be the beginning of generations of Americans who actually take pride in helping other people up, instead of keeping them down. What is going to happen in this thread? Playbook-wise, Racists are operating a ground-n-pound offense. Traditional. Established. Predictable. Reliable. Clockwork. But, to their credit, also bluntly effective. Their overall goal — Stop thinking about racism as soon as possible. By all means necessary, return to the established model. —There will be no shortage of attempts to discredit every thing I am saying. It won't be any thorough response. It will be multiple attempts to take one half of a phrase, contest it on the basis of semantics, and conclude this is why it all needs to be dismissed. —There will be attacks on the messenger; me. These will take the form of various guesses toward my personal identity, and my motivations. Anti-racism is not enough of a reason that racists can understand. There will be conspiracy theories. —There will be a lot, a lot, a lot of people insisting that White people can be the victims of racism, and in fact they are perhaps the BIGGEST victims of racism out of anybody. These claims will go as far as to say any suggestion otherwise is nonsense. They will not see any of the cruel irony in their statements, or if they do, they will not be bothered by them. How can I not be racist?First you understand what it means to be racist, with clarity. And then you work against the systemic oppression of people based on their physical character. If it helps you to understand it, compare American racism like the Christian idea of "being born into sin." (This is why it's called America's "original sin.") You start from a baseline of racism and take positive actions to work toward the redemption of a country built on bull####. It is continual actions. They don't have to be big. It just means not tolerating racism in your life. In your home. In your workplace. In your community. As a White American, you have both the advantages of the racist society, but if you decide to be a hero about it, you also have the advantage of blending in and finding "shameful racists" who only feel comfortable admitting their real hate to other white people. What you can to be Anti-racist is to simply not allow any safe quarter for racists in America, going forward, under any circumstances. This past week is the last moral wake-up call for White America. This is a life-long battle, and neutrality is not an option if you live in American society. Not choosing a side is choosing the side of the racist structure. So if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. tl;dr Racism is not our fault. But it is our responsibility. Racists have been treated with kid gloves for long enough, and need to be made to understood they are no longer welcome in America. The idea of remaining neutral is long gone. You are either horrified by the treatment of black people in America — either you think they are being systemically brutalized by a hateful ideology enacted by unthinking and unfeeling masses, or you think they're whiny idiots who want a free ride and special status as #1 victim. White people, more than anyone, need to nut up and show some backbone. It is time for White America to live up to their stated ideals of freedom, liberty, equality, and justice and enforce those ideals for their countrymen in their home turf. And it's time to stop pretending. This is only a "tough debate" if you can't imagine White Americans ever possibly being a force in the world that isn't entirely destructive. Hope this helps! Peace and love. Your constant attack on "white americans" is racist. Please stop. 1 3
Numark3 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 It's arduous for White Americans to verbalize about race, for a number of reasons. 1) The language is incomplete. For as much as we verbalize about it, we still only have the one root word - "race" - and sundry derivatives, racism, racist, etc. 2) It is deliberate intentional manipulation to ascertain, above all else, that White People are daunted to contemplate race. 3) If a White Person is coerced to cerebrate about race, our culture has provided many convenient and expeditious explications and dismissals in order to stop contemplating it So it makes sense that it seems akin to nobody can accede on fundamental What is racism? Racism is the systemic oppression of people predicated on their physical character. What is prejudice, and how is it different? Prejudice is the action of making postulations about people predicated on their identity. Prejudice is different from racism because "pre judging" is a human encephalon function in replication to incomplete information. It is the encephalon's version of auto-veridical, and can only be turned off through learning. But prejudice can never be eliminated consummately any more than fear can be eliminated. On the other hand, racism is a human-made noetic framework for viewing other humans that is entirely optional. What you're verbally expressing is prejudice is what racism is, though. And even the dictionary... ...will show you multiple definitions; these two definitions. The antecedent understanding of racism as being simply a matter of character sanctioned White America to go a few generations mentally conceiving, "As long as I don't scream the N word at an N word, I am assuredly not racist." In other words, language evolves. What is discrimination, and how is it different? Discrimination is the action of categorizing the facilities of people predicated on their identity. Am I racist? Probably, but you don't have to be racist. If you are born white in America, you are experiencing life with the benefits of racism. "You", as in your identity, are not any more "racist" than you are "American" or "capitalist" — as in, you are in liberty to optate your identity. We've all been programmed to accept our American and capitalist identities very explicitly. We have withal been programmed to accept our racist identities, additionally, just much less explicitly, and never by its designation. Oh great. So all white people are racist? In the sense that they are born into racism, affirmative. And the actions they take afore understanding their complicity are racist, because they perpetuate the system. In the sense that white people have to be racist, no. White people can opt to be anti-racist, but good intentions don't count; this is only quantified in action. Sorry! There is nothing you can do about it. White Americans are born into being racist, by design. Thankfully, the result is that White Americans live in a country largely built for her congeniality and benefit, at the expense of exploited minority groups. Being born into racism for White Americans denotes hundreds of years of access to opportunities like inculcation and generational wealth in a rigged system. It's lamentable that generations of White Americans are born into this system they did not initially engender themselves, but as far as the confines of slavery go... COULD BE WORSE!!!!!! Why don't Americans ken more about race? You mean "white Americans," of course. Every other race in America experiences racism first-hand on a quotidian substratum. White people are concretely edified not to cerebrate about race. This edification is given to them implicitly, and explicitly ("it's not polite"). Famously, COINTELPRO concocted many of the methods still in utilization today to divert white Americans from racism, and to discredit the claims of ebony Americans. It's the textbook definition of mind control, and we've all been subjected to the fruits of this labor. In other words, if you are a white American who is only now confronting the authenticity of race — it's okay. You are forgiven. You literally were not supposed to ken. Admittedly, people have been telling you for a long time, but, you ken. Better tardy than never. Welcome aboard. What is a bigot, and how is that different? A bigot is a person who has culled abhorrent discrimination as their identity. Can an ebony person be racist? Affirmative. Racist should be thought of as a verb, not an entity. Candace Owens is racist when she fortifies the structures of systemic oppression. Barack Obama being elected is not racist; it tears down those structures. Obama's replication to Trayvon Martin's shooting is racist; it upholds those structures. Can an ebony person be racist to a white person? No. There is no action that can be taken that will abstract the white person's innate advantages of being born into a society built to benefit them. Any person can be prejudiced (ie, "all white people espouse their cousins") but it is not racism. Ironically, you could abhor ebony people and still oppose racism — prejudice is intrinsical to the human condition. Racism is a construct. Isn't "Affirmative Action" racist against whites? Not in the least, and not only is this question imbecilic, it's offensive in the way it utilizes the white system of control over ebony Americans as a way to reframe the issue with white beneficiaries of racism as somehow withal the victims.
B-Man Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) What is racism? racism noun rac·ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \ Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b: a political or social system founded on racism 3: racial prejudice or discrimination Are you racist? No. A little sparse, but GregPersons has already demonstrated that he is not a poster to be taken seriously. I certainly don't and neither should anyone else with a three digit IQ. . Edited June 8, 2020 by B-Man 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: What is racism? racism noun rac·ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \ Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b: a political or social system founded on racism 3: racial prejudice or discrimination Are you racist? No. A little sparse, but GregPersons has already demonstrated that he is not a poster to be taken seriously. I certainly don't and neither should anyone with a three digit IQ. . Do we include the 0 at the beginning in the three digits? I'm not sure how to proceed. 1 2
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I’m not at all moved by arguments which assert that life is a zero sum struggle against various grievance hierarchies, and depend on the mutability of language in order to be made. It diminishes the individual, and it’s intellectual underpinnings are the failed communist class warfare dogmas of the 50s and 60s. 4 2
Johnnycage46 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Where was that wheelbarrow of bollocks rolled out from? He/she got it from a website called resetera (he/she used it in another thread too). No link...trying to pass it off as intrinsic knowledge but shows as nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic. 7
3rdnlng Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said: He/she got it from a website called resetera (he/she used it in another thread too). No link...trying to pass it off as intrinsic knowledge but shows as nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic. I already called he/she out in the other thread. This is the link that he plagiarized: https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-racism-are-you-racist.222007/ Please everybody, ignore GregPersons and absolutely don't quote his novels. 3
Johnnycage46 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I already called he/she out in the other thread. This is the link that he plagiarized: https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-racism-are-you-racist.222007/ Please everybody, ignore GregPersons and absolutely don't quote his novels. Yeah I am guilty of feeding this dirt bag troll. Done now. No more troll feeding, no matter how delicious it is to prove the idiot wrong. 1
bilzfancy Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Yeah I am guilty of feeding this dirt bag troll. Done now. No more troll feeding, no matter how delicious it is to prove the idiot wrong. I'm done with him/her too, if he/she gets ignored, he'll/she'll go away Edited June 8, 2020 by bilzfancy 2 1
Just Joshin' Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: He/she got it from a website called resetera (he/she used it in another thread too). No link...trying to pass it off as intrinsic knowledge but shows as nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic. Is that allowed, even in PPP? Following the example of his/her leader Joe who once dropped out after he was shown to be a serial plagiarizer. 1
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 Hilarious. One of the greats. If you don't know about Patrice O'Neal, you're welcome you ungrateful *****.
Azalin Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Beast said: You are spamming these boards. Exactly. Why anyone thinks they'll get any different by engaging him is beyond me. 4
SydneyBillsFan Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 I was a prety decent racist in my yonuger years. I won the NSW all-state 400m and 800m as a 15 yiar old. But that simply didn't comprae to the sheer thrill of being a karting racist. Alhtough I never did better than a 3rd place, I cosnider this to be the greater acheivment of the two. I am now a semi-retired racist who fills in whenever a catgeory B driver missus a race through inrujy or supsension. I was told that I colud have been a Formula 1 racist were it not for my chronic dyslexia, but that is a dicsussion for antoher day. 2 6 1
GG Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Or you could just stay in school, go to church and get married.
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