Motorin' Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Jaraxxus said: I believe in precise language. Why? Because I believe in absolute truth. People who believe in intentionally muddy language in my experience do not believe in absolute truth, and therefore can't be trusted to tell the truth. Know what I mean? On a personal note, I believe in absolute truth too. I do not happen to believe that absolute truth resides within the ephemeral world, within the world of change and appearance. And that is the world, the relative world of change, that gives birth to language. All language changes and evolves. Absolute truth by definition is unchangeable. So we negotiate the meaning of words because all words are inventions of the human mind.
Gary M Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I think they should be. There are two real systemic problems, not only in policing, but across all government agencies: Rewarding mediocrity and an inability to get rid of employees who can't even reach that low standard of performance. We have allowed it to reach a point where it is almost impossible to get rid of the bad apples. The unions support the democrats, the democrats give the unions raises, rinse and repeat 1
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Motorin' said: As someone who appreciates word origins, in a cursory review, the first known usage of the word "defund" appears to have occurred in 1948. Like all words, someone made it up by using it. Why are you so admit that partial defunding is not a real concept? Partial defuning is a real concept. So is defunding. They are two different things. See how changing the construction of the sentence completely changes the meaning. And the word is adamant. I suggest you learn the language before you debate it.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Again, because it still feels relevant, I suppose everyone arguing that defund doesn't actually mean remove all funding is now okay with defunding planned parenthood. And if someone were to suggest disbanding planned parenthood they are actually just suggesting that their funding go towards standard Healthcare facilities to aid in them offering many of the 'necessary' services that people went to planned parenthood for previously. 3
Koko78 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 15 hours ago, Capco said: They fired all of the officers via abolishing their department, then allowed all of the former officers to apply to be rehired under new, more selective criteria. This allowed them to snuff out the bad officers and hire new ones. In the process, their police force served the community better and expanded at the same time. A reduction in law enforcement isn't always what "abolish the police" actually means. If only people knew more... The "new, more selective criteria" being accepting half the pay and no union. The Camden move was solely meant to bust the police union and reduce costs; it had very little to do with the nonsense you're trying to push. 1
Sig1Hunter Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: The "new, more selective criteria" being accepting half the pay and no union. The Camden move was solely meant to bust the police union and reduce costs; it had very little to do with the nonsense you're trying to push. Hmm let’s see go back to work for the same scumbags that just fired me and want me to take a pay cut? Or go somewhere else where I’m appreciated and paid commensurate with my knowledge, skills, and abilities? Tough choice.. 1
Koko78 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Hmm let’s see go back to work for the same scumbags that just fired me and want me to take a pay cut? Or go somewhere else where I’m appreciated and paid commensurate with my knowledge, skills, and abilities? Tough choice.. Half the pay was still somewhere around $90k...
GregPersons Posted June 9, 2020 Author Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Hmm let’s see go back to work for the same scumbags that just fired me and want me to take a pay cut? Or go somewhere else where I’m appreciated and paid commensurate with my knowledge, skills, and abilities? Tough choice.. When government cuts other social program we usually just celebrate it as a Tax Cut Do you think you/cops deserve more than teachers? What are your "knowledge, skills, and abilities" exactly, and how are they helpful? Since you're paid with my tax dollars, I just want to know what I'm paying for. Based on your posts here, I can think of no better reason to de-fund the police than the fact that it employs people like this. Edited June 9, 2020 by GregPersons
Koko78 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Please, like you pay taxes. 1
GregPersons Posted June 9, 2020 Author Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Please, like you pay taxes. Also curious where else Sig is going to be paid for his "knowledge, skills, and abilities" and what those are. You seem to be full of rage today, that KKK thread really seemed to trigger you, snowflake.
Koko78 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Also curious where else Sig is going to be paid for his "knowledge, skills, and abilities" and what those are. You seem to be full of rage today, that KKK thread really seemed to trigger you, snowflake. Easy there, killer. I'm not the one who beats his wife.
GG Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Margarita said: says who ..oh never mind. You the font of all knowledge wisdom and understanding.......and Joe Miner LOL SMH oh geez that danged brain of mine straw MAN paper tiger geesh crucify me already Too late. It's in the book.
GregPersons Posted June 9, 2020 Author Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Koko78 said: Easy there, killer. I'm not the one who beats his wife. Were you aware "beats his wife" is actually a super common way for White people to discredit Black people? It's in COINTELPRO The FBI used it on MLK even Did you know? Were you aware how racist you were being by trying to "gotcha" me from posting about race, because it makes you uncomfortable? Get on Zoom with me!!!
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Half the pay was still somewhere around $90k... If that's true doesn't it tell you something?
Sig1Hunter Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, GregPersons said: Derp. Duhhhhhh. I’m sorry, did you say something?
GregPersons Posted June 9, 2020 Author Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Sig1Hunter said: I’m sorry, did you say something? Way to show the Police are listening. None of you are necessary. HS drop outs gonna need to find some other profession. Oinky oink!
billsfan1959 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: I’m sorry, did you say something? He isn't worth the time.
Reality Check Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Way to show the Police are listening. None of you are necessary. HS drop outs gonna need to find some other profession. Oinky oink! What is your solution to black on black violence?
Sig1Hunter Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: He isn't worth the time. Dude is on here 24/7...I guess McDonald’s is still shut down and he can’t go back to work? 2
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