Dante Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: LET’S GET RID OF THE CHICAGO POLICE TOO … NO … WAIT: “18 Murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago.” (Some history on how African American neighborhoods really do suffer most when law enforcement officers fail to keep the peace.) Wonder if BLM is doing anything to help in Chicago? 1
Dante Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: Yes, but those 18 murders don't make for good political theater, nor do their pictures make for good political props, so therefore their black lives don't matter. No political leverage to be had here. Like all leftist organizations they are inverted. Black Lives Matter? Not so much. They could care a less about black on black crime. 2
keepthefaith Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: LET’S GET RID OF THE CHICAGO POLICE TOO … NO … WAIT: “18 Murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago.” (Some history on how African American neighborhoods really do suffer most when law enforcement officers fail to keep the peace.) Updated daily, Chicago stats. 32 killed in the last week and over 80% of murders over the past several years are never charged (assailant unknown). Certainly the George Floyd incident deserves attention and correction but Chicago by itself generates 100X the wrongful shootings compared to police departments nationwide. The media mostly won't touch it. https://heyjackass.com/ 1
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Good deflection. Hurts sometimes to be so wrong (I guess....I wouldn't know). Stop blaming "evil white people" for all of the problems in the minority community. Take some responsibility Gregory. EDIT: My god, you ARE special. Your quote which I responded to used the word "systematic"....which I then used in my complete destruction of your weak points. And you come back saying that I mixed up "systemic" with "systematic" Here's your post that I quoted (bold added for emphasis): 23 hours ago, GregPersons said: Oh God, I'm so sorry... I keep forgetting you have the ego of an eggshell. You're not a Nazi. You don't have the uniform. You just support minority populations being imprisoned and executed systemically as long as it doesn't affect you. Very different! Did you seriously not notice that in my quote I say "systemically" even though you bolded it? Systematically Systemically Similar, I know. There is a difference. Can ya spot it for us, Johnny? Can ya try? I'll even give you a hint. Blame me all you want. I didn't invent the language. I'm just saying, "if you live here, maybe learn to speak English" Since you can't even identify the words distinct from each other, even when you literally are tracing your chubby sausage digit over the word and s-s-s-s-sounding it out, I'm going to go ahead and guess you're not going to be able to tell me the difference in meaning. Edited June 8, 2020 by GregPersons
Johnnycage46 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Did you seriously not notice that in my quote I say "systemically" even though you bolded it? Systematically Systemically Similar, I know. There is a difference. Can ya spot it for us, Johnny? Can ya try? I'll even give you a hint. Blame me all you want. I didn't invent the English language. I'm just saying, "if you live here, maybe learn the language" Since you can't even identify the words distinct from each other, even when you literally are tracing your chubby sausage digit over the word and s-s-s-s-sounding it out, I'm going to go ahead and guess you're not going to be able to tell me the difference in meaning. So, tell me how much YOU care about black lives when black people are being slaughtered in record numbers each year by other black people. Where is the outrage? You've clearly been bested (again) and are focusing on the most minute details of my responses, when I have presented facts (not the lies you have been spouting). You have NOTHING to respond with against the facts that people are posting in this and your other threads. How are your zoom meeting invites going you weirdo? 1
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: So, tell me how much YOU care about black lives when black people are being slaughtered in record numbers each year by other black people. Where is the outrage? You've clearly been bested (again) and are focusing on the most minute details of my responses, when I have presented facts (not the lies you have been spouting). You have NOTHING to respond with against the facts that people are posting in this and your other threads. How are your zoom meeting invites going you weirdo? You know, I need to do a re-tally but you should sign up. You should tell me what lies you think I'm spouting, and which facts you think you are presenting. I really like how the entire basis of your argument a moment ago was how you "won" because you "proved" that racism isn't "systematic" and now that's just a small little detail since, as it turns out, you didn't know "systemic" was a word and still don't know what it means, but you are nevertheless certain you proved it wrong. Like, I just watched you do that. And I will watch you deny it in your next post. You're going to insist on a reality that is completely different than the one you just subjected me to, because the new reality will better suit your argument. So basically, in real time, you're demonstrating the overall pattern of White people's racism in general and how it warps your brain and how you don't even know it. If this were a lab, you'd be the specimen I would be using to demonstrate to the class. Excited to see how you "win" in your next post! Edited June 8, 2020 by GregPersons
Dante Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Updated daily, Chicago stats. 32 killed in the last week and over 80% of murders over the past several years are never charged (assailant unknown). Certainly the George Floyd incident deserves attention and correction but Chicago by itself generates 100X the wrongful shootings compared to police departments nationwide. The media mostly won't touch it. https://heyjackass.com/ Heck if I was with BLM my first target of protest would be Planned Parenthood. That place is a full on extermination camp
Johnnycage46 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GregPersons said: You know, I need to do a re-tally but you should sign up. You should tell me what lies you think I'm spouting, and which facts you think you are presenting. I really like how the entire basis of your argument a moment ago was how you "won" because you "proved" that racism isn't "systematic" and now that's just a small little detail since, as it turns out, you didn't know "systemic" was a word and still don't know what it means, but you are nevertheless certain you proved it wrong. Like, I just watched you do that. And I will watch you deny it in your next post. You're going to insist on a reality that is completely different than the one you just subjected me to, because the new reality will better suit your argument. So basically, in real time, you're demonstrating the overall pattern of White people's racism in general and how it warps your brain and how you don't even know it. If this were a lab, you'd be the specimen I would be using to demonstrate to the class. Excited to see how you "win" in your next post! I won the argument because you present no facts to back up your claim of SYSTEMIC racism. Regardless of me using the incorrect word it actually did not change the context of my argument which is that you claim there is SYSTEMIC racism but provide no fact to base it on. Facts. We need facts here. Read back through my responses and you will see the facts I presented. Please provide facts that support your claim of SYSTEMIC racism. And I never mentioned SYSTEMIC racism....I was stating that I dont believe, based on facts, that black people are SYSTEMATICALLY being executed (by police. See my other responses to find out who IS SYSTEMATICALLY executing them). And YOU actually used SYSTEMICALLY incorrectly when you mentioned black people being SYSTEMICALLY executed. The correct wording, which I flawlessly used is SYSTEMATICALLY executed. Owned. You don't carry things out systemically....you carry them out systematically. Systemic refers to an overall greater issue at hand. Edited June 8, 2020 by Johnnycage46
Just Joshin' Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 Once this is passed, real estate values will drop as people who can rush out will rush out of the city. The net result will be further inequality caused by a terrible policy.
muppy Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 I was not aware that disbanding a police force has occurred before in the USA..it has, In Camden NJ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/minneapolis-is-not-the-first-city-to-disband-its-police-department/ar-BB15c2qe?li=BBnbcA1 2
meazza Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 Question, if your place gets broken into and your belongings stolen, who fills out the police report if the police have been disbanded ? Asking for a friend.
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, Margarita said: I was not aware that disbanding a police force has occurred before in the USA..it has, In Camden NJ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/minneapolis-is-not-the-first-city-to-disband-its-police-department/ar-BB15c2qe?li=BBnbcA1 That's awesome! Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I think, really there is no reason, based on history, to expect White America to really actually come around and support Black America in this. But things like this, I feel like this time is different. It started with Trayvon Martin, I think. People are waking up to the reality that things should be, and can be different. Very inspiring to see people encourage American ingenuity. Despite what this board would have you believe, America does have a lot of very talented and brilliant thinkers among us. They just don't go here. 1
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, meazza said: What is white america for you? Is someone born in Algeria or Morocco white? Here ya go
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Just now, meazza said: I asked you I didn’t ask Patrice (RIP) I'm saying don't listen to me listen to Patrice (RIP) For new page Edited June 8, 2020 by GregPersons
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, meazza said: But I didn’t ask you about his opinion, I asked you. And you got the answer you will be getting. Listen to Patrice and talk to me about Patrice and then we can talk about the question bc you will know your answer
GG Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Margarita said: I was not aware that disbanding a police force has occurred before in the USA..it has, In Camden NJ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/minneapolis-is-not-the-first-city-to-disband-its-police-department/ar-BB15c2qe?li=BBnbcA1 And now, Camden is the shining light of New Jersey. 1 3
Joe Miner Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 The protests might have a good amount of support in this country and may help defeat Trump in November. Pushing to disband the police will undo all of that.
muppy Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, GG said: And now, Camden is the shining light of New Jersey. I can’t speak to that I know they had horrible crime issues before if it’s not worse now that’s an improvement right? The article explains what they did and it shows positive reviews. If what they did worked in a place like Camden I don’t know why it couldn’t be replicated. Did you read the link? Edited June 9, 2020 by Margarita 3
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Margarita said: I was not aware that disbanding a police force has occurred before in the USA..it has, In Camden NJ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/minneapolis-is-not-the-first-city-to-disband-its-police-department/ar-BB15c2qe?li=BBnbcA1 Well I don’t understand this. Not only is there still a Camden NJ police department but there are more officers than before it was disbanded. 2
Capco Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Well I don’t understand this. Not only is there still a Camden NJ police department but there are more officers than before it was disbanded. They fired all of the officers via abolishing their department, then allowed all of the former officers to apply to be rehired under new, more selective criteria. This allowed them to snuff out the bad officers and hire new ones. In the process, their police force served the community better and expanded at the same time. A reduction in law enforcement isn't always what "abolish the police" actually means. If only people knew more... 1 2
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