JetsFan20 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 We have a center-right and far-right party that both put corporations over people and it’s resulted in massive levels of inequality and injustice 3
B-Man Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: We have a center-right and far-right party That both put corporations over people and it’s resulted in massive levels of inequality and injustice 5 1
bilzfancy Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 AOC is a socialist and not a very bright one either, she thinks we can send astronauts to the sun, if they went at night. 6
Whatnot78 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 We only have like a dozen years until the end of days, so why does it matter...? 3 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: We have a center-right and far-right party that both put corporations over people and it’s resulted in massive levels of inequality and injustice Now it’s corporations that are responsible for the ‘massive’ injustice? Oh brother! Lighten up Francis
SectionC3 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: We have a center-right and far-right party that both put corporations over people and it’s resulted in massive levels of inequality and injustice We have other parties in NYS. Tons of them. Be a WFP. Or a green. Or a conservative. Build a party. 2
Unforgiven Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CarpetCrawler said: Jets fans deserve AOC. She is the butt fumble politician to be sure 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 15 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: We have a center-right and far-right party that both put corporations over people and it’s resulted in massive levels of inequality and injustice Did AOC say we need another party?! If so, great. She can start by cutting ties with the Democratic Party immediately and running as an independent. She has always been excellent at making impassioned speeches, but some of her behavior and her voting record this year belies her progressive credentials. I won’t go so far as to call her a sell-out like Bernie and Warren, but…I have my reservations…because she has been getting way too cozy with “Mama Bear” Pelosi recently. Some might say she’s a practical girl building her political career from within the Democratic Party establishment, so that she can later reform it down the line and use them as a vehicle to eventually become president. Cynics would say that she only cares about upgrading those bartender tips into a stable six-figure political salary. RealKayAdams will say, “don’t know about her motives, don’t care about her strategies, just deliver some mother bleeping RESULTS for the people.” JetsFan20, I do agree with you that the Dems are center-right and the Reps are far-right. Or rather, the Dems are center right if you focus on the Dem establishment’s domestic economic agenda and foreign policy record, while ignoring the social justice warrior red meat they promulgate for the base. Most of continental Europe and the West at large would agree with this characterization of American politics. But if you truly align yourself in accordance with many of AOC’s comments, then I would seriously consider making like Frank Gore this year and ditching the Red and Blue for Gang Green. Vote Green Party on November 3. 1
Foxx Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 the New Green Deal is a center-right agenda driven proposal? who knew.... 2 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 4 parties for the 4 quadrants would be fine with me
ComradeKayAdams Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Foxx said: the New Green Deal is a center-right agenda driven proposal? who knew.... The Green New Deal proposal is driven completely by the progressive left wing of the Democratic Party. The moderate establishment wing of the party only mentions it in rhetoric so to rally the base and make everyone feel good and feel like they’re actually on the path to doing something that is nebulously positive. The moderate establishment wing is far more powerful and sets the agenda for the entire party. Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have ZERO plans to make a Green New Deal ever happen. None at all.
Chef Jim Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 How the ***** are we supposed to have parties if all the bars are closed and we can’t gather in groups? Again a politician proposing something without thinking it through. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: The Green New Deal proposal is driven completely by the progressive left wing of the Democratic Party. The moderate establishment wing of the party only mentions it in rhetoric so to rally the base and make everyone feel good and feel like they’re actually on the path to doing something that is nebulously positive. The moderate establishment wing is far more powerful and sets the agenda for the entire party. Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have ZERO plans to make a Green New Deal ever happen. None at all. Thanks Kay...nice and concise! ? The problem with all such government centric proposals is that they become a grab bag for every idea that comes into some legislators or staffers or lobbyist heads. I far prefer a people centered proposal. You want to be green? Start at home, with your own life.
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, RealKayAdams said: JetsFan20, I do agree with you that the Dems are center-right and the Reps are far-right. Speaking as an individual who sits above the fray, and views both parties from an economic and social vantage, through an Enlightenment moral lens, you are absolutely out of your mind if you believe this to be true; or have redefined the political spectrum in such a way which renders all formerly understood terms meaningless. Please explain yourself, and provide definitions and context. Edited June 8, 2020 by TakeYouToTasker 1
Dante Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Golden Goat said: AOC speaks what she's programmed to speak. You mean scripted to speak. She was cast for this part. She actually attended a casting call. 1
Joe Miner Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 There’s too much stupid in the Democratic party today. We need a new overflow third party to handle that much stupid.
Koko78 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 21 hours ago, bilzfancy said: AOC is a socialist and not a very bright one either, she thinks we can send astronauts to the sun, if they went at night. Well how else do you plan for Astronuts to get there? 4 hours ago, RealKayAdams said: The Green New Deal proposal is driven completely by the progressive left wing of the Democratic Party. The moderate establishment wing of the party only mentions it in rhetoric so to rally the base and make everyone feel good and feel like they’re actually on the path to doing something that is nebulously positive. The moderate establishment wing is far more powerful and sets the agenda for the entire party. Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have ZERO plans to make a Green New Deal ever happen. None at all. Wait, so they're not going to let me collect a paycheck for being unwilling to work?!? 1
Just Joshin' Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Dante said: You mean scripted to speak. She was cast for this part. She actually attended a casting call. Even Harvey passed on AOC.
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