sabrecrazed Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 I find it funny that everyone's hair is on fire over this tweet, but nobody cares that the Democrats want to change our entire system of voting. 1 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, sabrecrazed said: I find it funny that everyone's hair is on fire over this tweet, but nobody cares that the Democrats want to change our entire system of voting. Hopefully this will make the left defend in-person voting so the election can be on time and in person. 1
sabrecrazed Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Hopefully this will make the left defend in-person voting so the election can be on time and in person. I hope you are right. 2
bilzfancy Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: A witch, the Ayatollah, senile old man and a criminal, the Dems must be so proud
Koko78 Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Uh oh. If Biden's numbers in the suppression polls are dropping this much, imagine what the actual numbers look like. 4
3rdnlng Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Koko78 said: Uh oh. If Biden's numbers in the suppression polls are dropping this much, imagine what the actual numbers look like. Exactly. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 I hope everyone who resides here is prepared to see something similar to the image below A LOT!!!
Rob's House Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Copied and pasted Why Republicans eventually lose, every time... Conservative values are based on freedom and opportunity, and it takes a certain level of logic and reason to understand the mechanisms that allow freedom to breed opportunity, such that lives improve. It is, in the meantime, very easy to say things like, “I believe in PEOPLE and will NOT let your desire for FREEDUMB exclude people from access to HEALTHCARE and FOOD!!!!!” The second quote is clever in many ways, even as it is misleading. First, it ridicules freedom, and personalizes freedom in a way that makes it about greed and excess - those who want freedom are portrayed as the ‘I have mine and screw the rest of you’ crowd. Second, it conflates freedom, and conservative values in general, with pain, suffering, and starvation. It essentially says, “People are sick, injured, and hungry because YOU DO NOT CARE!!!” Third, it is purely moralistic. It offers no mechanisms, and requires no sense of logic or reason. It, rather, creates a false binary between freedom and survival, without any indication for how those things may, or may not be, related. It implies a simple choice: if you are for freedom, you must be against survival. Fourth, it implies, without stating, that being against government providing things, is the same as being against those things being provided. It implies that being against a government takeover of medical care is the same as being against having medical care provided, and that being against a government takeover of the food industry is the same as being against having food. Most importantly... It encourages conservatives to use logic and reason to deconstruct the statement, such that we can rip it apart (exactly as I just did). Ronald Reagan once said, “If you are explaining, you are losing.” When we focus solely on logic and reason, without pivoting to morality, we cede the moral high ground and turn off the electorate. Much of the electorate does not have the time, nor the patience, to listen to logic and reason. They just want to do the right thing. In this way, the Democrats are better at messaging. Getting better at our moral communication is not difficult. We just have to learn to pack our logical, well reasoned arguments, in a moral sandwich. Start with a moral claim, back it with reason and logic, and then restate it at the end. Instead of ‘socialism would be great if it worked,’ followed by a bunch of arguments about how socialism cannot work, say, ‘socialism has killed more people than has smallpox, and it makes people no more important than farm animals,” followed by all of the logical arguments making THAT statement true. Finally, restate the fact that socialism is evil, as it treats people like farm animals, and kills more effectively than do plagues. We win the occasional election, but very little if anything gets rolled back when we do. Democrats, in the meantime, bide their time, and then come back with new ways to grow government. If we want to win in the long term, we need to convince people that growing government is morally wrong. 2 2 4
RiotAct Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 ^^^^^Good post. I’ve cringed every time I heard someone trotting out the sarcastic “MUH RIGHTS!!!” trope in the last 4 months, totally dismissing peoples’ valid concerns about an eventual return to normalcy. Lazy thinking. Of course, ironically enough, these are probably the same people who laid into Bush and company back in 2001/2002 when we started having to remove our belts and shoes at the airports. 1 1
B-Man Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Clouds of Summer Obscure the Coming Thunder of November. 1
B-Man Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 An effective presentation of what Trump got right and Biden got wrong about the coronavirus. 1
B-Man Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Joe Biden Will Choose His Running Mate Tomorrow, and Here Are His Options
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