2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[snafu]

39 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I think it's almost certainly going to be Harris.

 

I think it would be a mistake to choose a running mate that couldn’t pull 10% of her own party’s votes in the primaries, and who’s campaign flamed out in a sort of ugly fashion. And from a State that Biden’s got locked up.  

 

 

 

[KD in CA]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, I donno... they are trying desperately to pin the rioting and looting on him, but since it is all Democratic run cities, it is having some trouble sticking (it is not like the feds are in charge of local police departments). They were desperate to have him bring in the military so they could screech what a dictator he is (kinda like the ploys they have tried in the past against Republican Presidents who have bit on an opp), instead we watched local officials allow anarchists burn their own cities to the ground.

Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization (follow the money), the statues being toppled have had regular old non-political folks doing a WTF, so they are going after those people on a federal level (no get out of jail quick card there)... I think the Ds ran this opp a little too soon. If they had waited until August, maybe September, they'd have had a better chance to muddy the waters. However, IF (and this is a big IF) the follow-the-money leads to some sort of charges against some big name donors to the anarchists, that could be a blow to the Democrats.

We shall see what the rest of the summer brings. Chaz is done (winnable lawsuits will do that) and the anarchists were using chalk to "deface" on statues yesterday instead of spray paint and toppling (funny what looking at a hefty fine and 10 years in prison will do). Now the question is if people are smart enough to blame their local government (you know, the people in charge of local law and order) for police stand-down orders, allowing the rioting and looting to go on, etc., and if they do, how that will impact voting in November.

 

 

As some of the Dems here have pointed out, Trump is trying to tie Biden to the left wing nutjobs behind Chaz, rioting, tearing down statues of Washington, etc.  And rightly so, both from a campaign strategy and because the mainstream Dems should be held accountable for that crap since they are all in tacit approval of such tactics.   If Trump is successful, he'll likely win again.  People may be fatigued at Trump, but they sure as hell are going to be fatigued at rioting and statues being torn down as though we were post-war Iraq.

[transplantbillsfan]

7 hours ago, B-Man said:

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: 

Anger, not Trump vs. Biden, now driving 2020 election: Much of the country believes that America is racist, cruel and incapable of self-correction. 

 

 

It’s actually much less of the country than you’d think,

 

but it’s the part of the country the news media have chosen to amplify.

 

 

 

 

How much of the country do we think it is and how much is it actually?

 

I'm assuming you have something to back this up and aren't just talking out of your @$$.

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

This election isn’t about Joe - it’s all about Trump.

 

 

This has been obvious for a long time... even before the Pandemic hit.

[transplantbillsfan]

6 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

There's no question that 'Trump fatigue' will be the deciding factor if he loses.  Generally it takes 8 years for the country to get fatigued with a candidate/party but Trump may very well compress that into four years.   I think he's made a huge error in not toning down the twitter crap and maintaining a cavalier attitude over COVID;  it has allowed the left to paint the b.s. narrative that Trump is somehow responsible for a 'delayed response' when the fact is the scientific community and WHO were downplaying the ability of the disease to spread well into March.

 

If there was an honest accounting of Trump based solely on his policies, he'd be reelected in a walk.

5 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yup...If the left and their media can convince a stupid public that racism and viruses are 'Trump's fault', it just might be.

5 hours ago, snafu said:

 

I think it would be a mistake to choose a running mate that couldn’t pull 10% of her own party’s votes in the primaries, and who’s campaign flamed out in a sort of ugly fashion. And from a State that Biden’s got locked up.  

 

 

 

 

I don't agree and I think this is a pretty wild oversimplification of what happened.

[RiotAct]

8 hours ago, dpberr said:

The only way Joe Biden snatches defeat from the jaws of victory is a VP choice that puts the fear into moderates.

 

Biden's fragile mental capacity will be put on display in the debates and America is ultimately choosing between Trump and that VP.

 

 

yup, exactly.  Trump keeps digging himself a bigger hole by the day with his moronic tweets...

[Buffalo_Gal]

42 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

yup, exactly.  Trump keeps digging himself a bigger hole by the day with his moronic tweets...

Trump occasionally tweets mean things so I think I'll vote for Joe Biden the corrupt dementia patient for President! is logic I cannot understand.

[BillStime]

The GOP is F’d - thoughts and prayers, of course 

 

 

[wppete]

 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

White Power bro!!!! White POWER

[wppete]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

White Power bro!!!! White POWER

 

Awful. Just Awful.

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

How much of the country do we think it is and how much is it actually?

 

I'm assuming you have something to back this up and aren't just talking out of your @$$.

 

 

 

 

You are confused.

 

I posted an article by a very talented author ,Victor Davis Hanson.

 

I post articles that I am sure many of you will not search out, it does not mean that I agree with every word.

 

 

You are far too worked up lately. 

 

 

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[BillStime]

Just now, wppete said:

 

Awful. Just Awful.

I totally agree.
 

 

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

Awful. Just Awful.

 

 

It just shows the weakness of their position

 

 

The President foolishly posts a tweet with the phrase White Power a very small part of it.

 

 

But to the desperate Left is is the be all and end all of today's posting.

 

 

Very weak sauce.

 

 

 

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[transplantbillsfan]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

You are confused.

 

I posted an article by a very talented author ,Victor Davis Hanson.

 

I post articles that I am sure many of you will not search out, it does not mean that I agree with every word.

 

 

You are far too worked up lately. 

 

 

 

Sorry. A grossly incompetent President does that to me.

[B-Man]

Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Sorry. A grossly incompetent President does that to me.

 

 

 Boy .........................2009 to 2017 must have been hell for you !

 

 

 

           

[transplantbillsfan]

47 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 Boy .........................2009 to 2017 must have been hell for you !

 

 

 

           

 

Why?

 

Thinking that great President would likely be succeeded by an imbecile?

 

Yeah. You're right. I did think about that. But don't worry. I wasn't miserable.

 

I live in the present. I appreciated that historically great President for who he was. I wasn't thinking at the time about the prospect of a moron like Trump to follow.

 

Appreciate the concern, though.

Edited June 29, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[wppete]

My buddy sent me this today, said it’s about the election. I don’t know what it all means but makes one think........ Can anyone explain or help with the meaning???

 

”A person(s) value:
1. vote
2. monetary value (tax contribution)
3.
Why is 'free thought' ridiculed, challenged, and threatened when a person is opposed to the 'mainstream-narrative'?
[2] remains fixed (degree allowable by 'economic recession/expansion')
[1] remains a variable
[1] dependent on a 'controlled' system of information dissemination
What happens when 90% of the media is controlled/owned by (6) corporations?
What happens when those same corporations are operated and controlled by a political ideology?
What happens when the news is no longer free from bias?
What happens when the news is no longer reliable and independent?
What happens when the news is no longer trustworthy?
What happens when the news simply becomes an extension/arm of a political party?
Fact becomes fiction?
Fiction becomes fact?
When does news become propaganda?
Identity creation?
How does the average person, who is under constant financial stress (by design), find time to research and discern fact v fiction?
Majority of people more prone to believe someone in power sitting behind a big brand ‘news’ name?
Do people [human psyche] tend to follow the ‘majority/mainstream viewpoint’ in fear of being isolated and/or shunned?
‘Mainstream’ is used for a reason [dominate trend in opinion].
[If majority of people believe ‘x’ then ‘x’ must be validated / true]
Why do ‘mainstream’ media heads, within different orgs, always use the same keywords and/or catch phrases?
Coordinated? By who? Outside entity providing instructions?
Do they count on the fact that people [human psyche] are more prone to believe something if heard over-and-over again by different ‘trusted’ sources?
Do ‘echo chamber’ tactics provide validation / credibility to the topic/point being discussed?
Threat to intellectual freedom?
Would control over[of] these institutions/organizations allow for the mass control of a populations viewpoint re: a desired topic?
Read again – digest.
Would control over[of] these institutions/organizations allow for the mass control of a populations viewpoint re: a desired topic?
THINK BLM PUSH EVERY 4-YEARS.
Logical thinking.
Why, after the election of 2016, did [D]’s and media corps jumpstart a [coordinated & planned] divisive blitz intended to create falsehoods re: illegitimacy of election, character assassination of POTUS through sexism, racism, every other ‘ism’?
How much of the population still believes POTUS colluded w/ RUSSIA due to MSDNC 365-blitz?
No MSDNC retraction of POTUS_RUSSIA collusion narrative [propaganda]? _why?
Pre/post 2016 election?
Why were[are] violent [masked] terror orgs such as Antifa immediately created/funded and allowed to operate within [D] controlled cities [safe-zones]?
Why were these orgs tasked w/ immediate intimidation/shut down of any pro-POTUS rally and/or events?
Why were marches immediately organized to counter and silence pro-POTUS rally and/or events?
Why were marches immediately organized which divided people into sex/gender, race, [ism]?
When you control the levers of news dissemination, you control the narrative.
Control of the narrative = power
When you are blind, what do you see?
They want you divided.
Divided by religion.
Divided by race.
Divided by sex.
Divided by political affiliation.
Divided by class.
When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those ‘different’ from you, not those responsible [controllers].
Divided you are weak.
Divided you pose no threat to their control.
When ‘non-dogmatic’ information becomes FREE & TRANSPARENT it becomes a threat to those who attempt to control the narrative and/or stable [livestock kept – sheep].
When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’.
"Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma.
THIS REPRESENTS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."

Edited June 29, 2020 by wppete

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Why?

 

Thinking that great President would likely be succeeded by an imbecile?

 

Yeah. You're right. I did think about that. But don't worry. I wasn't miserable.

 

I live in the present. I appreciated that historically great President for who he was. I wasn't thinking at the time about the prospect of a moron like Trump to follow.

 

Appreciate the concern, though.

You can think he was great. That’s cool. What made him great in your opinion? 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

It just shows the weakness of their position

 

 

The President foolishly posts a tweet with the phrase White Power a very small part of it.

 

 

But to the desperate Left is is the be all and end all of today's posting.

 

 

Very weak sauce.

 

 

 

.

Option #2 would have been not to

post the tweet.  Or maybe to condemn such things.   
 

either way, he’s a loser, you’re a phony, Jesus was brown, and I’m done for the night.  

[snafu]

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I don't agree and I think this is a pretty wild oversimplification of what happened.

 

Yeah, sorry — it is even more simple than I stated already. I forgot that she dropped out in December — two months before the Iowa caucus.  She never made it to the first contest.  Pretty simple, nobody donated to her campaign and she couldn’t get votes. 

 

And as for a more nuanced description of the disaster that was her campaign, here’s a postmortem. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html

Pretty simple.  It was a disaster.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by snafu