dubs Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Racists love to speak cryptically like this. Just say what you mean. "I hope to soon legally shoot black people." Why do you guys think your veiled threats are clever? Is it because you're all stupid as *****? I would tell you to go jump off a bridge, number one. Lmao. I'm not here to educate you, you silly white moron. That's not my job and I could give a *****. There's plenty of resources available. Start here: google/bing/whatever conservative search engine tinfoil hats use -- read books by black people. From different time periods. More than one. Did you need me to give you that idea? Were you so empty before? TRY HARDER, WHITE PEOPLE. I’m trying harder. I’m trying to learn what we could do to fix the problem and I’m asking you because you’re here talking about it. Is that not ok?
Troll Toll Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, GregPersons said: Racists love to speak cryptically like this. Just say what you mean. "I hope to soon legally shoot black people." Why do you guys think your veiled threats are clever? Is it because you're all stupid as *****? Veiled threat!?!? I’m saddened that the efforts for change go into things that will only cause more suffering in black communities. I’m saying gang violence and drug dealing is going to be worse than ever. I have not and will not initiate violence towards anybody. My comment is expressing that getting rid of crimefighters in black communities will result in more crime against blacks.
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, dubs said: I’m trying harder. I’m trying to learn what we could do to fix the problem and I’m asking you because you’re here talking about it. Is that not ok? OK fair enough. However you need to understand. This is some ***** that a lot of "well meaning" people are doing, by demanding that the oppressed people do everything for them -- identify the problem, the solution, the means, the funds, the everything, and also make sure it doesn't inconvenience any white people. So step one is to figure out how to be self sufficient and seek out knowledge rather than demanding it given to you on a platter. Does that make sense? If you have some books you've read or are looking to read, or if you're wondering if this or that article seems to be a good place -- feel free to DM me and I'm happy to steer you on your journey, if you like. 1
GG Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, GregPersons said: You're concerned about your tax dollars for reparations?!?!?!? THAT'S YOUR DEFENSE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH I'm guessing you're also concerned about "white genocide" are you? You racist piece of trash. ***** all the way off and do not reply. Let's play a game. Let's allocate a few trillion dollars for reparations, figure out a way to distribute it, send the checks and debit cards out. Will that solve the problems you say exist? 1
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Troll Toll said: Veiled threat!?!? I’m saddened that the efforts for change go into things that will only cause more suffering in black communities. I’m saying gang violence and drug dealing is going to be worse than ever. I have not and will not initiate violence towards anybody. My comment is expressing that getting rid of crimefighters in black communities will result in more crime against blacks. OK it sounded like you were saying you want the black death toll to be higher. Still — cops are a net negative on black communities. They are not preventing violence, they are perpetuating it. To guide the conversation elsewhere is disingenuous and dangerous and I'm doing everything in my power to not call it the obvious other word that it is. Step one -- cops/prison need to stop behaving and operating like modern slave catchers/plantations.
SoCal Deek Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: OK fair enough. However you need to understand. This is some ***** that a lot of "well meaning" people are doing, by demanding that the oppressed people do everything for them -- identify the problem, the solution, the means, the funds, the everything, and also make sure it doesn't inconvenience any white people. So step one is to figure out how to be self sufficient and seek out knowledge rather than demanding it given to you on a platter. Does that make sense? If you have some books you've read or are looking to read, or if you're wondering if this or that article seems to be a good place -- feel free to DM me and I'm happy to steer you on your journey, if you like. Was there a point in there where you said how we’re going to fix the problem? I read it twice and didn’t find it. 1
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, GG said: Let's play a game. Let's allocate a few trillion dollars for reparations, figure out a way to distribute it, send the checks and debit cards out. Will that solve the problems you say exist? Are you guys all drinking leaded water, or what's going on here? Reparations. Absolutely amazing the lengths White folks will go to try and feel oppressed. Just amazing. Just now, SoCal Deek said: Was there a point in there where you said how we’re going to fix the problem? I read it twice and didn’t find it. Defund police. Abolish the institution. Restart with new civil servants. "But but but then what? Without cops, who would not help rape victims? Who would beat black people for no reason? Who would racists look up to? How would we ever replace them?" Hey wouldn't you know it. We're not the only people thinking about this. Isn't that amazing? The world is bigger than this board. Truly wild. Here's some ideas to begin: https://t.co/mI27L2xOOJ?amp=1 If your brain is so limp as to be able to find answers without me, then please include that next time. "I am helpless and a baby. Please spoon feed me information so I can spit it out and say I don't like it." Much easier.
SoCal Deek Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Are you guys all drinking leaded water, or what's going on here? Reparations. Absolutely amazing the lengths White folks will go to try and feel oppressed. Just amazing. Do you have a magic looking glass? How do you know you’re talking to ‘white folks’ here? You’re coming off a bit racist in your over generalized assumptions. 3
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Do you have a magic looking glass? How do you know you’re talking to ‘white folks’ here? You’re coming off a bit racist in your over generalized assumptions. Reverse racism! The great scourge of our time!
billsfan1959 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Missing records, for one. How would you know they are missing? Misrepresented deaths, for another. How would you know they are misrepresented? Which is the crazier thought? That the numbers are inaccurate, or they are fully honest and accurate? The requirements for law enforcement agencies to provide statistics on crime has been around for a long time now, is pretty standarized, and not much about it is subjective. This thread is about killings. Murders reported by police departments are based on actual dead bodies declared to have been homicides by medical examiners. Arrests are based on actual people being arrested and the demographic information they provide. Just what information do you think is missing or inaccurate? Edited June 6, 2020 by billsfan1959 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, GregPersons said: Reverse racism! The great scourge of our time! Well it was fun talking with you, but it’s clear you want no part of it. Enjoy your utopian fantasyland. 3
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: The requirements for law enforcement agencies to provide statistics on crime has been around for a long time now, is pretty staandarized, and not much about it is subjective. This thread is about killings. Murders reported by police departments are based on actual dead bodies declared to have been homicides by medical examiners. Arrests are based on actual people being arrested and the demographic information they provide. Just what information do you think is missing or inaccurate? Wait just to be clear — you are insisting that police numbers, about police violence, are generally trustworthy and accurate? You are surely aware that these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes? 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Well it was fun talking with you, but it’s clear you want no part of it. Enjoy your utopian fantasyland. Aw! Sorry your feelings got hurt. Rest up. It's gonna be a long year.
4merper4mer Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Wait just to be clear — you are insisting that police numbers, about police violence, are generally trustworthy and accurate? You are surely aware that these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes? Four verys is exaggerating. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Wait just to be clear — you are insisting that police numbers, about police violence, are generally trustworthy and accurate? You are surely aware that these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes? They must get really great wifi in jail. I can’t believe you’ve chosen to use your time off the riot lines to spend it with all of us here in a Buffalo Bills chat room. They allowed you to keep your cell phone with you? Nice! What’s for breakfast in the pen? 1
billsfan1959 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Wait just to be clear — you are insisting that police numbers, about police violence, are generally trustworthy and accurate? You are surely aware that these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes? Can you provide a link for your assertion? Given some of the things you have posted, I am not inclined to take your word for it. I sourced all of my information. So, please do the same. Provide us a link showing "these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes." I will also ask you again, just where in the process of reporting actual murders do you think the police are inaccurate? Do you think they are changing the race of the offender or the race victim in their reporting? Do you think they are reporting murders that didn't happen? Do you think they are hiding murders that did happen? Edited June 6, 2020 by billsfan1959 2
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Four verys is exaggerating. Is it? 1) http://lubbockonline.com/stories/120998/LA0665.shtml 2) http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/05/new_orleans_crime_stats_analys.html 3) http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/ 4) http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/hundreds-of-assault-cases-misreported-by-milwaukee-police-department-v44ce4p-152862135.html Just now, billsfan1959 said: Can you provide a link for your assertion? Given some of the things you have posted, I am not inclined to take your word for it. I sourced all of my information. So, please do the same. Provide us a link showing "these numbers are very very very very commonly cooked for political purposes." I will also ask you again, just where in the process of reporting actual murders do you think the police are inaccurate? Do you think they are changing the race of the offender or the race victim in their reporting? Do you think they are reporting murders that didn't happen? Do you think they are hiding murders that did happen? Sure. See my previous post. It's not hard to find. http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-nypd-tapes-confirmed-6434290 http://www.latimes.com/local/cityhall/la-me-crime-stats-20151015-story.html To your questions: Do you think they are changing the race of the offender or the race victim in their reporting? No. Do you think they are reporting murders that didn't happen? No. Do you think they are hiding murders that did happen? Yes.
3rdnlng Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: This is great. The Democrats of today are the same Democrats that tried destroying the nation in 1860? Just because they share share the same name. This is hyper ignorance. Martin King was a Democrat and so was Jefferson Davis, therefore they had the same ideology I guess. Both Democrats! You sure about that? 1
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: They must get really great wifi in jail. I can’t believe you’ve chosen to use your time off the riot lines to spend it with all of us here in a Buffalo Bills chat room. They allowed you to keep your cell phone with you? Nice! What’s for breakfast in the pen? You know what I've always thought was fun, is how do racists like football? Because the league is majority black. And then it all kinda clarified for me when the team had a black QB and GM at the same time and how awful that was for so many people. So I get it now. You want to be the QB or the GM or the HC... you want to be the white guy leading the savages. I get the fantasy now. Probably why you can't get into basketball, I bet. Not enough white dudes in charge.
billsfan1959 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Defund police. Abolish the institution. Restart with new civil servants. Hey wouldn't you know it. We're not the only people thinking about this. Isn't that amazing? The world is bigger than this board. Truly wild. Here's some ideas to begin: https://t.co/mI27L2xOOJ?amp=1 And would these civil servants be armed? I looked at the site you linked and most of that already exists. But let's look at just one area that was talked about: domestic violence. I didn't see anything in the "alternatives to policing" that addressed what to do when the neighbors hear the man next door physically beating the hell out of his wife/girlfriend. Who do they call and what is the response?
Westside Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: You sure about that? He's such an idiot. That must of been before the parties "flipped" lol 1
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