GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Calling to defund the police is just an easy way to deflect from the real problems. It's always easier to demand others change. What are the real problems? Who should be changing?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 ...now there's taking command....spritz everybody with Aqua Velva......they'll all smell nice...... Seattle bans tear gas for 30 days amid George Floyd protests By Morgan Phillips | Fox News Seattle’s mayor and police chief announced they’ve agreed to ban the use of tear gas to disperse protesters for 30 days amid ongoing demonstrations after the death of George Floyd. “After hearing concerns about the use of CS gas for crowd control purposes earlier this week ... we decided we were going to suspend its use for 30 days,” Police Chief Carmen Best said. The leaders suspended the gas until watchdog groups and oversight officials can fully review and recommend changes to policies and training for use of the chemical agent. Local health officials expressed concerns over use of tear gas and other respiratory irritants in light of the coronavirus pandemic. The ban only applies to tear gas-- not flash-bang grenades, pepper spray and other crowd-control techniques-- but Seattle’s female African American police chief said that “everything will be reviewed.” https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-bans-tear-gas-30-days-george-floyd-protests
Just Joshin' Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, GregPersons said: Social programs are needed. Not modern slavery. People need help. This country has abundant resources. Just swapping the budgets for Education and Police would go a long way. First thanks for the reply. So you want to swap budgets. How do you handle the impact of less police and more crime? What does not get addressed? So do you thuink there are too many police and the crime rate would not go down with less police? 1
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: First thanks for the reply. So you want to swap budgets. How do you handle the impact of less police and more crime? What does not get addressed? So do you thuink there are too many police and the crime rate would not go down with less police? Howdy, thanks for having a nice and polite tone with your questions. Well let me begin by trying to understand your question better. What crimes do you think right now the police are doing a good job of containing and handling, that would be noticeably worse without them? Edited June 6, 2020 by GregPersons
Reality Check Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Howdy, thanks for having a nice and polite tone with your questions. Well let me begin by trying to understand your question better. What crimes do you think right now the police are doing a good job of containing and handling, that would be noticeably worse without them? What is your solution to black on black crime?
Needle Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, GregPersons said: What are the real problems? Who should be changing? My neighbors are city school teachers in the city of Rochester. They have 100+ students on average every year. Through the course of a school year they will have contact with a couple of parents. Open house? A couple show up, sometimes zero Emails? Never a response Phone calls? Same as open houses, a couple maybe Year in and year out the results are the same. My neighbors are a mixed race couple and have literally cried about this when telling us. Bad cops should pay a price but the 9 unarmed deaths of blacks last year mean zilch in impact. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Reality Check said: What is your solution to black on black crime? ...well if we follow the (ILL) logic of some here, it is all the white man's fault......we have cast them into a life of despair with no way out, right?.....how come thousands upon thousands of black sports figures have risen to the top financially?......did they fight , practice and hone their skills to get to the top?.....how about the eloquent Thomas Sewell?....Condy Rice?...Powell?.....BET's Johnson?....there are many, many MANY societal African-Americans that have made it...wasn't black unemployment at a historic low of 3.5% pre Covid-19?.....isn't there a significant segment of whites with no drive or initiative to better themselves?.....it is a cultural mindset first before pointing the finger at the "lazy by race".....isn't that the initiative behind socialist thinking ala "gimme more for doing nothing", a/k/a wealth distribution?......Big Fredo spends $62+ BILLION annually on public assistance, second only to California...has it helped drive and initiative to elevate one's self?......your call.........
Doc Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Needle said: My neighbors are city school teachers in the city of Rochester. They have 100+ students on average every year. Through the course of a school year they will have contact with a couple of parents. Open house? A couple show up, sometimes zero Emails? Never a response Phone calls? Same as open houses, a couple maybe Year in and year out the results are the same. My neighbors are a mixed race couple and have literally cried about this when telling us. Bad cops should pay a price but the 9 unarmed deaths of blacks last year mean zilch in impact. The said thing is I think many of the do think that all their problems are due to the police. And when you have that stance, there's not much you can do to change things.
Beast Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: That is 100 percent true. Imagine a privatized security/police? Call them and give your credit card information before they respond to take care of your problems. We are heading this way and I say awesome! We should also defund Welfare and social programs that drain our tax dollars. I'm also for defunding any and all tax payer money going to public colleges. Edited June 6, 2020 by Beast
Doc Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doc said: The said thing is I think many of the do think that all their problems are due to the police. And when you have that stance, there's not much you can do to change things. And this goes to this (at 2:58 mark of video): Edited June 6, 2020 by Doc 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, GregPersons said: Ohhh boo hoo the store windows. They burned down the Saki House -- a family owned (by Japanese immigrants) locale which they poured their heart and soul into. They now have to sell it at a huge loss because the insurance won't cover it. You're not only wrong, you're dangerously ignorant of even basic facts. 2 hours ago, GregPersons said: What are the real problems? Who should be changing? Are you planning to vote for Biden by the way? Edited June 6, 2020 by Deranged Rhino
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: They burned down the Saki House -- a family owned (by Japanese immigrants) local which they poured their heart and soul into. They now have to sell it because the insurance won't cover it. You're not only wrong, you're dangerously ignorant of even basic facts. You have a link for this Sake (e, not i) House insurance claim?
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, GregPersons said: You have a link for this Sake (e, not i) House insurance claim? I know the owners, asshat. Are you planning to vote for Biden? Just now, Jaraxxus said: "Destruction of property isn't violence." His words. Yes, he's a Marxist which means he's very stupid.
Koko78 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 5 hours ago, GregPersons said: OK I thought you were taking the piss. I can ***** with this. I'd rather have communities police themselves. It should be like volunteer firefighters. Unless the national union is dissolved and the US becomes more like the EU (also not necessarily opposed), then you still need national services. And so you still have the National Guard but you need non-violent mediative services. You need people for homeless people to give them what they need; for crazy ass people shooting bows & arrows in public; for domestic disputes — these require trained professionals. Essentially what I"m talking about are field doctors for mental/social issues. Great, here's your next Neighborhood Watch Captain Field Doctor:
GregPersons Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I know the owners, asshat. Are you planning to vote for Biden? Yes, he's a Marxist which means he's very stupid. Oh, so we're just taking your word for it. Well if it comes out publicly, be sure to let me know. I would be curious why insurance would not cover their claim. It seems like the exact kind of thing insurance is for. Obviously I'm a Trump voter. MAGA 2020, can't you tell? Can't wait to hear you tell me that store fronts and human life have the same value in your twisted mind! Also — did you confirm this earlier — you ARE the Devin Nunes guy right? You're the guy on this forum that loves Q anon stuff, right? And Devin Nunes? Like. Devin Nunes. You are riding that jock? Still, or did you figure it out? Please say still.
keepthefaith Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 No, dumbest idea ever. I'm beginning to wonder how the leftist ideology has any success at the ballot box. Seems like they're on a political suicide path, only propped up by media/hollywood/big norcal tech and some crazy fringe.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, GregPersons said: Oh, so we're just taking your word for it. Well if it comes out publicly, be sure to let me know. I would be curious why insurance would not cover their claim. It seems like the exact kind of thing insurance is for. Which only proves how uninformed you are. Just now, GregPersons said: Obviously I'm a Trump voter. MAGA 2020, can't you tell? So that's a yes? You're going to vote for Biden? You come down here spewing all sorts of dishonest and really ridiculous nonsense about "institutional racism" -- and you're going to turn around and vote for one of the primary architects of that systemic injustice and racism? How do you square those two things, Greg? Please, enlighten me...
Koko78 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: "Destruction of property isn't violence." His words. Well, all I can say is that the last time I used a weapon to smash a window, forcibly stole what was inside, then burned the building to the ground, I did it totally peacefully. 1
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