Defund the Police?

[muppy]

to reiterate, this whole "define defund" with its dictionary definitions being quoted as gospel needed to be debunked and I hope by now it has. saying the majority  want police "defunded"  supposedly to leave anarchy in its wake is baloney. Removing all forms of protection from lawlessness in my view makes zero sense practically as well as philosophically. The fact that the word "defund" was jumped on as meaning remove all police functions is ans was ludicrous. Argue if you must that is what most want and I will disagree strongly.

Edited June 10, 2020 by Margarita

[Warren Zevon]

6 minutes ago, Margarita said:

saying the majority  want police "defunded" 

 

It's a right wing talking point.

[Big Gun]

No police means no speed limit or stopping at red lights and stop signs which means I can get to where i'm going faster, but there will probably be more accidents clogging the roads up so, probably should keep the police!

 

What a damn stupid thought process to defund the police!

[Chef Jim]

15 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

Believe what you want dude.  Read the exchange between billsfan1959 and myself if you think I'm being disingenuous.  

 

I've not read your exchange but my meeting canceled and I had time to read your article.  If the information is true is a very damning account of what's going on.  I just wondered why out of that whole article you felt it necessary to quote that?  

[3rdnlng]

9 minutes ago, Margarita said:

to reiterate, this whole "define defund" with its dictionary definitions being quoted as gospel needed to be debunked and I hope by now it has. saying the majority  want police "defunded"  supposedly to leave anarchy in its wake is baloney. Removing all forms of protection from lawlessness in my view makes zero sense practically as well as philosophically. The fact that the word "defund" was jumped on as meaning remove all police functions is ans was ludicrous. Argue if you must that is what most want and I will disagree strongly.

It may not be what they wanted but it certainly is what they said.

[Chef Jim]

11 minutes ago, Margarita said:

to reiterate, this whole "define defund" with its dictionary definitions being quoted as gospel needed to be debunked and I hope by now it has. saying the majority  want police "defunded"  supposedly to leave anarchy in its wake is baloney. Removing all forms of protection from lawlessness in my view makes zero sense practically as well as philosophically. The fact that the word "defund" was jumped on as meaning remove all police functions is ans was ludicrous. Argue if you must that is what most want and I will disagree strongly.

 

Then why was the word defund even used??  There are so many ways the to use words that actually represent what they want to do. But no.  The chant became defund, defund, defund.  Please explain why there is a discussion here on this board with 5,600 views and 389 replies with the title of Minnesota Police Disbanded?  What definition  you want to give to that word?  Orwell would be proud of you. 

[Capco]

9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I've not read your exchange but my meeting canceled and I had time to read your article.  If the information is true is a very damning account of what's going on.  I just wondered why out of that whole article you felt it necessary to quote that?  

 

Thanks.  

 

As I said, I was introducing one particular viewpoint here (which I acknowledged is anecdotal) so as to discuss it with you all, because I found the contents deeply disturbing.  

 

When you want other people to read your book, you put some juicy quotes on the back cover.  It's the same concept as "getting clicks" by focusing on that which stands out.  

 

But I'm not trying to get you to click for monetary gain or anything.  I'm just trying to get people to read it.  

[GregPersons]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

Then why was the word defund even used??  There are so many ways the to use words that actually represent what they want to do. But no.  The chant became defund, defund, defund.  Please explain why there is a discussion here on this board with 5,600 views and 389 replies with the title of Minnesota Police Disbanded?  What definition  you want to give to that word?  Orwell would be proud of you. 

 

What a gentleman you are. Nice to see it's not just me who you are a complete ####### to. Have you ever seen a mental health professional?

 

Defund is used because it's the right starting point. The discussion needs to be about a complete repeal & replace. Defund is a negotiationg tactic, you moron. It says the discussion needs to start at 0 and work up from there. Because working down from 300 gazillion is going to be pointless. See: the cuts promised by LAPD which is in the 100s of millions and still a fraction of the overall budget.

 

What about Margarita's post warranted your disgusting rudeness toward her, btw? Are you single? Do you interact with other humans outside of this board? Who would you ever talk to like that? What an embarrassment you are. Please go support the Pats, where you belong.

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

What a gentleman you are. Nice to see it's not just me who you are a complete ####### to. Have you ever seen a mental health professional?

 

Defund is used because it's the right starting point. The discussion needs to be about a complete repeal & replace. Defund is a negotiationg tactic, you moron. It says the discussion needs to start at 0 and work up from there. Because working down from 300 gazillion is going to be pointless. See: the cuts promised by LAPD which is in the 100s of millions and still a fraction of the overall budget.

 

What about Margarita's post warranted your disgusting rudeness toward her, btw? Are you single? Do you interact with other humans outside of this board? Who would you ever talk to like that? What an embarrassment you are. Please go support the Pats, where you belong.

 

Seriously??  That reply post to Margarita is rude?  Because I called her Orwellian??  Holy ***** dude.  You hypocrite. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Chef Jim

[Warren Zevon]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Seriously??  That reply post to Margarita is rude?  Because I called her Orwellian??  Holy ***** dude.  You hypocrite. 

 

Did you give this much thought to the "lock her up" chant?

[Chef Jim]

Just now, Warren Zevon said:

 

Did you give this much thought to the "lock her up" chant?

 

No because The LOCK HER UP chant was pathetic, childish and immature.  Next question. 

[Warren Zevon]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No because The LOCK HER UP chant was pathetic, childish and immature.  Next question. 

 

You avoided calling out the sexist lock her up chant just like you avoid calling out racism.

 

Not surprised.

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

You avoided calling out the sexist lock her up chant just like you avoid calling out racism.

 

Not surprised.

 

Lock her up is sexist?  LOLOLOLOL!!!!  

 

No seriously.  I literally laughed out loud at that.  

[muppy]

25 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Then why was the word defund even used??  There are so many ways the to use words that actually represent what they want to do. But no.  The chant became defund, defund, defund.  Please explain why there is a discussion here on this board with 5,600 views and 389 replies with the title of Minnesota Police Disbanded?  What definition  you want to give to that word?  Orwell would be proud of you. 

you cant hold a conversation without an insult. Why is that? Do discussions that dont perfectly align with your views harm your sense of self so as to have to go low in self defence?

[Chef Jim]

Just now, Margarita said:

you cant hold a conversation without an insult. Why is that? Do discussions that dont perfectly align with your views harm your sense of self so as to have to go low in self defence?

Where did I insult you?  Please point out what words I used that insulted you?  

[muppy]

17 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Where did I insult you?  Please point out what words I used that insulted you?  

I said your defending a dictionary definition of defunding was debunked and Im orwellian it was a dig and in plain sight of a post that very eloquently posted why I posted as I did...listen I can hang it is what it is in these forums. You keep  being you and always right. SMH Orewllian: This will go nowhere y'all don't want discussion you want the word to be a mandate. I disagree.

 

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The word is sometimes used to describe a particularly anti-libertarian government policy, but it is also sometimes used to describe the peculiar, nonsensical thought process behind Oceania's social structure—a thought process in which ideas that are obviously self-contradictory are accepted as true based on the fact that an authority figure is asserting them.

 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Margarita

[TakeYouToTasker]

45 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

It's a right wing talking point.

@Margarita

 

Yes.  Using words as they’re properly understood is a right wing talking point.

 

Why can’t you just clearly explain what you want, using words as they are commonly understood instead of blaming everyone else for your miscommunications.

 

This coming from an individual who fully supports abolishing the police.

[muppy]

5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

@Margarita

 

Yes.  Using words as they’re properly understood is a right wing talking point.

 

Why can’t you just clearly explain what you want, using words as they are commonly understood instead of blaming everyone else for your miscommunications.

 

This coming from an individual who fully supports abolishing the police.

 what I want? Clairity and perspective  as to what defund really means in realistic terms vs what a dictionary says it means..

[B-Man]

 

 

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[muppy]

1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

^And this is the inevitable outcome of modern progressivism. Nothing has any meaning, everyone makes up the rules as they go and language is utterly and completely useless.

 

Objective truth. Let's get back to it.

 

lets not and say we did. I'll repeat myself: y'all think its a mandate and it in my view clearly isn't. What is so hard about this? geesh.