Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 5:36 PM, Jauronimo said: "Respecting the flag" continues to be an empty talking point which was invented and used to avoid uncomfortable discussion for the actual reasons of Kaepernick's protest. Expand According to you. You do know that not everyone is mandated to agree with you, no? 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:13 PM, Bill from NYC said: According to you. You do know that not everyone is mandated to agree with you, no? Expand Everyone has the right to be wildly incorrect. I don't know why so many choose to exercise it. You're welcome to argue why kneeling during the anthem is inherently disrespectful. You're welcome to argue Kaepernick's intent was to disrespect the flag. You're welcome to argue why the Green Beret who recommended kneeling as a respectful form of protest is wrong and hates America and all that it stands for but you won't be anymore successful than all of the people who tried the same in this thread. 1 2
Billl Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:13 PM, Bill from NYC said: According to you. You do know that not everyone is mandated to agree with you, no? Expand What are you doing here when you could be standing for the anthem right now from the comfort of your own home?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5---17O4s 1
Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:21 PM, Jauronimo said: Everyone has the right to be wildly incorrect. I don't know why so many choose to exercise it. You're welcome to argue why kneeling during the anthem is inherently disrespectful. You're welcome to argue Kaepernick's intent was to disrespect the flag. You're welcome to argue why the Green Beret who recommended kneeling as a respectful form of protest is wrong and hates America and all that it stands for but you won't be anymore successful than all of the people who tried the same in this thread. Expand That was not an intelligent comment. You are not an all knowing being. You are just some guy on a message board with a screen name of Jauronimo. People are not automatically incorrect because they disagree with your comments. What makes it worse is that you probably toe the line on each and every issue. An original thought would suit you well. Have a wonderful day! On 6/9/2020 at 6:23 PM, Billl said: What are you doing here when you could be standing for the anthem right now from the comfort of your own home?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5---17O4s Expand Thanks for the suggestion. Could you even begin to imagine what I suggest that you could do? 1 1
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:23 PM, Billl said: What are you doing here when you could be standing for the anthem right now from the comfort of your own home?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5---17O4s Expand What exactly does this prove again?
Mr. WEO Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/8/2020 at 1:23 PM, westside2 said: What Fromm and Brees said is mild to what Biden has said numerous times. Why is Biden given a pass? I don't Condon racism, but I don't believe what Brees said was racist. Fromm, that's another story. He's young and I hope he learns from it. Expand On 6/8/2020 at 3:06 PM, oldmanfan said: Fromm is a fairly young kid that said something really stupid. His relative youth should not be a shield to excuse it, rather it should emphasize the need for him to keep quiet and lean from his mistakes. Leaders in the clubhouse, or guys like Zo who are still associated with the team, will no doubt sit down with the kid and explain why his comments were so stupid. And he'll learn or he won't. If he doesn't his football career is over. Expand Racism is a learned way of thinking. He seems to have learned well. Had those texts not been made public, his learned behavior would be no different: he believes certain white people only should be able to arm themselves in the way he suggested and that black people are all to poor to join his gun silencer group anyway...no reason to believe he, suddenly, after getting caught, has "learned" to not think this way.
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:26 PM, Bill from NYC said: That was not an intelligent comment. You are not an all knowing being. You are just some guy on a message board with a screen name of Jauronimo. People are not automatically incorrect because they disagree with your comments. What makes it worse is that you probably toe the line on each and every issue. An original thought would suit you well. Have a wonderful day! Expand Nice cop out, Bill. Why don't you stick to crusading about defensive backs and diagnosing strangers with mental illness for having the audacity to protest. Here are some original thoughts for you: "I support the flag", "I support our police", and "I support the troops". I bet that gives you a semi. Drink it up, Bill. Drink it up!
Warcodered Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) On 6/9/2020 at 6:26 PM, Bill from NYC said: That was not an intelligent comment. You are not an all knowing being. You are just some guy on a message board with a screen name of Jauronimo. People are not automatically incorrect because they disagree with your comments. What makes it worse is that you probably toe the line on each and every issue. An original thought would suit you well. Have a wonderful day! Expand Yeah he's such a conformist can't even think for himself. Now let us all stand for the anthem.? Edited June 9, 2020 by Warcodered 1 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:34 PM, BillsFan17 said: What exactly does this prove again? Expand It proves about as much as this gibberish: Quote Yup, its empty to people who hold it as a symbol with deep meaning. But if we say it stands for racial injustice that absolutely must be acknowledged. No double standard. Expand I've read this 30 times and it still makes no sense. At least it was funny before you edited "simple" to "symbol".
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:37 PM, Jauronimo said: It proves about as much as this gibberish: I've read this 30 times and it still makes no sense. At least it was funny before you edited "simple" to "symbol". Expand What are you struggling with? And a typo is all you can reference? The flag holds meaning to people, you want to dismiss that to be woke, that's fine. You want to dismiss the flag as something that symbolizes racial injustice, thats fine, but there is nothing that proves that. You can't prove it, you can't back it up. 1
Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:36 PM, Jauronimo said: Nice cop out, Bill. Why don't you stick to crusading about defensive backs and diagnosing strangers with mental illness for having the audacity to protest. Here are some original thoughts for you: "I support the flag", "I support our police", and "I support the troops". I bet that gives you a semi. Drink it up, Bill. Drink it up! Expand No matter how dismissive, gross, or derisive your comments are, people are not forced to agree with you. People shouldn't be forced to agree with anyone, even robotic simps who are incapable of an original thought. 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:41 PM, BillsFan17 said: What are you struggling with? And a typo is all you can reference? The flag holds meaning to people, you want to dismiss that to be woke, that's fine. You want to dismiss the flag as something that symbolizes racial injustice, thats fine, but there is nothing that proves that. You can't prove it, you can't back it up. Expand No one is dismissing the importance of the flag and I have NEVER said the flag is a symbol of injustice. This is a strawman argument created by you to prove god knows what. Its a similar strawman that was used to dismiss Kaepernick. If you can label his protest "disrespectful to the flag" it can be summarily dismissed. Good luck proving the act of kneeling during the anthem is inherently disrespectful to the flag. And its not just the typo. Its the whole semantics of your statement. What is the "it" in your opening sentence because if its the same "it" as in the post you quoted, you're referring to the talking point of "disrespecting the flag" which makes no sense. If the "it" is the flag, then your post still makes no sense. To summarize, you have a total non-sequitur, a strawman, and a conclusion of a double standard on someone's part. Pure gibberish.
Coach Tuesday Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) On 6/9/2020 at 6:51 PM, Billl said: <div class="tenor-gif-embed" data-postid="12433443" data-share-method="host" data-width="100%" data-aspect-ratio="1.6710526315789473"><a href="https://tenor.com/view/american-flag-eagle-raise-america-usa-gif-12433443">American Flag Eagle GIF</a> from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/americanflag-gifs">Americanflag GIFs</a></div><script type="text/javascript" async src="https://tenor.com/embed.js"></script> Expand Even I know better than to click on that! Edited June 9, 2020 by Coach Tuesday 1
Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:36 PM, Warcodered said: Yeah he's such a conformist can't even think for himself. Now let us all stand for the anthem.? Expand The difference is that I don't care if you disagree with things that I believe. It is a comforting state of mind, you might try it.
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) On 6/9/2020 at 6:52 PM, Jauronimo said: No one is dismissing the importance of the flag and I have NEVER said the flag is a symbol of injustice. This is a strawman argument created by you to prove god knows what. Its a similar strawman that was used to dismiss Kaepernick. If you can label his protest "disrespectful to the flag" it can be summarily dismissed. Good luck proving the act of kneeling during the anthem is inherently disrespectful to the flag. And its not just the typo. Its the whole semantics of your statement. What is the "it" in your opening sentence because if its the same "it" as in the post you quoted, you're referring to the talking point of "disrespecting the flag" which makes no sense. If the "it" is the flag, then your post still makes no sense. To summarize, you have a total non-sequitur, a strawman, and a conclusion of a double standard on someone's part. Pure gibberish. Expand You spent this much time breaking down... pure gibberish? Well, maybe you need a new hobby, maybe log off and keep that SJW fight in the streets, where it counts! Kaep' blatantly calls out the flag, do you even know what it is you are trying to argue? https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/colin-kaepernick-49ers-national-anthem-sit-explains/amp Edited June 9, 2020 by BillsFan17 1
Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:41 PM, BillsFan17 said: What are you struggling with? And a typo is all you can reference? The flag holds meaning to people, you want to dismiss that to be woke, that's fine. You want to dismiss the flag as something that symbolizes racial injustice, thats fine, but there is nothing that proves that. You can't prove it, you can't back it up. Expand No, but he sure can hate you if you disagree with him. 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:54 PM, Bill from NYC said: No, but he sure can hate you if you disagree with him. Expand Says the guy who makes things personal with me and then gets butthurt when I respond? Your victim act is old. If you're getting off on this I demand financial compensation!
Westside Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:34 PM, Mr. WEO said: Racism is a learned way of thinking. He seems to have learned well. Had those texts not been made public, his learned behavior would be no different: he believes certain white people only should be able to arm themselves in the way he suggested and that black people are all to poor to join his gun silencer group anyway...no reason to believe he, suddenly, after getting caught, has "learned" to not think this way. Expand Let those who have not sinned, cast the first stone. 1
BillsFan17 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:34 PM, Mr. WEO said: Racism is a learned way of thinking. He seems to have learned well. Had those texts not been made public, his learned behavior would be no different: he believes certain white people only should be able to arm themselves in the way he suggested and that black people are all to poor to join his gun silencer group anyway...no reason to believe he, suddenly, after getting caught, has "learned" to not think this way. Expand Daryl Davis would strongly disagree with this extremely narrow-minded logic. To assume no one can grow and learn, again look up Daryl Davis. Then come back. 2
Doc Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:34 PM, Mr. WEO said: Racism is a learned way of thinking. He seems to have learned well. Had those texts not been made public, his learned behavior would be no different: he believes certain white people only should be able to arm themselves in the way he suggested and that black people are all to poor to join his gun silencer group anyway...no reason to believe he, suddenly, after getting caught, has "learned" to not think this way. Expand LOL! Sure. No one can ever change. Never mind that he never mentioned "black people" specifically, said he doesn't even belong to this supposed group of his, and silencers don't actually kill people. Do yourself a favor and listen to Lorenzo Alexander again. 1
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