Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/7/2020 at 7:37 PM, Chef Jim said: What are the FACTS of the situation? @GaryPinC ? Waiting.
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I’m not so sure about this but I was wondering what he was doing with reaching towards the cops. Regardless if you reach out to a cop in riot gear don’t be surprised if you get shoved. Age means nothing.
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: I’m not so sure about this but I was wondering what he was doing with reaching towards the cops. Regardless if you reach out to a cop in riot gear don’t be surprised if you get shoved. Age means nothing. I'm not sure about that either, however, President Trump is close to that age and may have thought that, based on the OANN reporting (that is who he referenced) and what he saw on video, that he (Trump) would not have fallen with that type of push, so the guy took a dive? Now, that guy probably weighed 50# less than Trump, so even though Trump may have thought the push wouldn't make him (Trump) fall backwards like that, maybe it was enough for a guy that was lighter? And that guy did stumble which may have also contributed to the fall. But, as they dig further into that Buffalo "protester" he does seem to like to agitate. And if he did have some sort of jammer... 1
Bob&Doug Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I’m not so sure about this but I was wondering what he was doing with reaching towards the cops. Regardless if you reach out to a cop in riot gear don’t be surprised if you get shoved. Age means nothing. https://youtu.be/9CubkyIzygQ 1
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Bob&Doug said: https://youtu.be/9CubkyIzygQ Now that's a video close-up that I haven't seen before. He obviously was up to something with his phone and wasn't offering the cops a helmet. He wasn't pushed but was warded off. I can see where Trump developed his opinion. 1
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob&Doug said: https://youtu.be/9CubkyIzygQ Thanks for this. This changes things a bit don't you all think? 1 hour ago, Bob&Doug said: https://youtu.be/9CubkyIzygQ Oh and how are things up in the Space Station?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/6/2020 at 12:25 PM, GregPersons said: Who invented slavery? Who invented for profit prisons? Who invented ICE? Who invented Slave Catcher patrols? Are you aware how this impacted modern policing in the US? White people need to nut up and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their peoples' actions. You seem quite intent on judging an entire group of people based on their skin color... Anyway, slavery probably existed beforehand, but Mesopotamia is typically where people point to. Definitely not the United States. John Bigler was the Democrat serving as governor of California when San Quentin was established as a private state prison in 1852. George W Bush founded ICE. Nathaniel Johnson was the governor of South Carolina when slave patrols were invented there. I think very little of our current law enforcement system is based on any of that. Similarities are likely skin deep, as that's clearly as far as you can see.
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I think he should just shoot someone on 5th avenue at this point.
SoCal Deek Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It's gotten to the point where I don't believe ANYTHING that I see or read in the media, but if that You Tube video is indeed accurate, there is absolutely ZERO justification for that old man to be putting his hands ANYWHERE near those Officers or their equipment. Especially when they're clearly on the march towards there objective...which was also clearly not this old dude! Virtually every confrontation with Police can and will be avoided by NOT CONFRONTING the Police! 1
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I think he should just shoot someone on 5th avenue at this point. Have you seen the latest, closeup video of the instance? If not you should. 1
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I'm not sure about that either, however, President Trump is close to that age and may have thought that, based on the OANN reporting (that is who he referenced) and what he saw on video, that he (Trump) would not have fallen with that type of push, so the guy took a dive? Now, that guy probably weighed 50# less than Trump, so even though Trump may have thought the push wouldn't make him (Trump) fall backwards like that, maybe it was enough for a guy that was lighter? And that guy did stumble which may have also contributed to the fall. But, as they dig further into that Buffalo "protester" he does seem to like to agitate. And if he did have some sort of jammer... Regarding the part in bold. Try 250#
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/7/2020 at 3:00 AM, Doc Brown said: Just looking at the guy's twitter feed he's not some innocent bystander. He's a far left agitator who obviously wanted a confrontation to occur. The cops obviously should've handled it better but you can see why so many came out in support of their fellow officers. 24 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Have you seen the latest, closeup video of the instance? If not you should. I saw it when I commented on the interaction a few days ago. I didn't accuse the guy of being a part of Antifa or falling "harder" than he was pushed. Trump is just gaslighting conspiracy theorists with that tweet.
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I saw it when I commented on the interaction a few days ago. I didn't accuse the guy of being a part of Antifa or falling "harder" than he was pushed. Trump is just gaslighting conspiracy theorists with that tweet. What was the guy doing with his (what appears to be) phone? Did you think the cop braced himself to push the guy? Did it look more like the cop was warding him off? In a hockey game he would sure get 2 minutes for diving in my opinion.
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What was the guy doing with his (what appears to be) phone? Did you think the cop braced himself to push the guy? Did it look more like the cop was warding him off? In a hockey game he would sure get 2 minutes for diving in my opinion. How the hell should I know? There's not a shred of evidence that he was part of Antifa or fell on purpose. He looked just to be an old loon based off of his twitter account. 1
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: How the hell should I know? There's not a shred of evidence that he was part of Antifa or fell on purpose. He looked just to be an old loon based off of his twitter account. In a video taken just prior to the when he fell down he verbally claimed that he was there for a little fun and wanted to get punched in the face. Everything about him raises the spidey sense.
Taro T Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: In a video taken just prior to the when he fell down he verbally claimed that he was there for a little fun and wanted to get punched in the face. Everything about him raises the spidey sense. Heard him say off-screen he was there for a little fun. Did not hear him say he wanted to get punched in the face, but the other guy describing the scene to the guy recording video said he thought the guy wanted to get punched in the face. Maybe he said it and the phone barely picked it up; but my ears never heard Gugino say he himself wanted to be punched in the face.
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: How the hell should I know? There's not a shred of evidence that he was part of Antifa or fell on purpose. He looked just to be an old loon based off of his twitter account. So old loons get a pass when they approach cops and reach out to them? 1
3rdnlng Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Taro T said: Heard him say off-screen he was there for a little fun. Did not hear him say he wanted to get punched in the face, but the other guy describing the scene to the guy recording video said he thought the guy wanted to get punched in the face. Maybe he said it and the phone barely picked it up; but my ears never heard Gugino say he himself wanted to be punched in the face. Audio was poor. It sounded to me like the black was repeating and intimating what Gugino had said but I certainly could be wrong.
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