falgobofu Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 I have read that they want to slowly incorporate AJ in the line up, why not throw a flyer on Griffen? He said he would be an open book about his past and last year, could be a very nice 1 or 2 year deal on a player that is only 32. He could still have a lot of good football ahead of him, good at getting after the QB and stout against the run.
Brennan Huff Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) I’ve heard of him, which is all I need. Get it done OBD Edited May 28, 2020 by Brennan Huff 2 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 Rather have him then Murphy. But I don't think they make the move.
CBD Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 I'm ok with the player, however I think with Hughes, Addison, Murphy and Epenesa they likely aren't looking to add to that position group. 3
ExWNYer Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, falgobofu said: I have read that they want to slowly incorporate AJ in the line up, why not throw a flyer on Griffen? He said he would be an open book about his past and last year, could be a very nice 1 or 2 year deal on a player that is only 32. He could still have a lot of good football ahead of him, good at getting after the QB and stout against the run. 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Rather have him then Murphy. But I don't think they make the move. I think he would be a very nice addition on a short term deal (1-2 years) and his acquisition would almost certainly mean the end of Trent Murphy's time in Buffalo. That said, I don't think the Bills will pursue him. JMO
JoPoy88 Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 Is this the guy that pulled a gun on someone a couple years ago?
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, CBD said: I'm ok with the player, however I think with Hughes, Addison, Murphy and Epenesa they likely aren't looking to add to that position group. I think this is likely the case.
Gugny Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Is this the guy that pulled a gun on someone a couple years ago? Didn't pull a gun, but did threaten to shoot someone. He was clearly dealing with some mental health issues in 2018 based on the details in this story: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24794154/everson-griffen-being-evaluated-hospital-minnesota-vikings-concerned-well-being But it looks like he was able to come back in 2019 and play the full season. Hopefully he's found the help that he definitely needed. 2 1
Logic Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, CBD said: I'm ok with the player, however I think with Hughes, Addison, Murphy and Epenesa they likely aren't looking to add to that position group. This. The staff also sounds as though they like Daryl Johnson and Mike Love quite a bit. I think they’re done adding at Edge. 1
Jamie Mueller Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Logic said: This. The staff also sounds as though they like Daryl Johnson and Mike Love quite a bit. I think they’re done adding at Edge. Mike Love is extremely overrated... everyone knows that Brian Wilson was the driving force in The Beach Boys. 3 2
Rc2catch Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 Griffin was on my radar before the offseason even started, he’d be a huge get. After what we’ve done though I can’t see them investing anymore into the D line
BarleyNY Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 This SI story talks about the kinds of contracts the writer would expect him get if he went to Cleveland. One year, $12.75M or two years, $23.1M. If that’s legitimately his range, then he’s not a fit here. Even with cutting Murphy (saving about $8M) that’s too much with the Addison addition and Hughes on the books. Griffen will probably sign somewhere right after Clowney does. Same suitors and Clowney will set the current market, so that chip probably has to fall first.
HOUSE Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Didn't pull a gun, but did threaten to shoot someone. He was clearly dealing with some mental health issues in 2018 based on the details in this story: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24794154/everson-griffen-being-evaluated-hospital-minnesota-vikings-concerned-well-being But it looks like he was able to come back in 2019 and play the full season. Hopefully he's found the help that he definitely needed. CLEVELAND ...good fit 2
GreggTX Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Logic said: This. The staff also sounds as though they like Daryl Johnson and Mike Love quite a bit. I think they’re done adding at Edge. Coaches always say nice things about players that work hard and stay out of trouble, even if they suck.
John from Riverside Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 I think AJ starts stealing Murphy's reps very quickly........cant keep better talent off the field....I do understand not forcing it and having vets though By the way.....how huge is it that the bills got maybe the 2nd best DE in this draft with their 2nd round pick (a late one no less) Huge 1
Simon Says Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 Bills are loaded at DE. Who you cut, or sit ,in order to get him reps? Already have several DEs who will be 30+
Blank Stare Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 I’d replace Murphy with him in a second, but I think it’s pretty telling he’s lasted this long and we haven’t shown interest with the Leslie Frazier connection. 1
billsfan89 Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 The Bills brass likes Murphy, 2 years ago they made him their big free agency signing (Well him and Star.) He has 9 sacks in two seasons and isn't a stout run defender. I have no clue with they love him but I think the staff likes him. He isn't a bad player but certainly is overpaid for what he is (an above average rotational DE.) If the Bills are going to bring in someone to compete with Murphy it will either be Johnson or a lesser heralded player in camp. I just don't see them spending any even mid-level money on a free agent just to compete with Murphy. AJ brought youth and depth to the position via the draft and I don't see them rushing to replace a player they likely view as their 4th DE esp given they have a player in Johnson who is young and can compete in camp.
Logic Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Coaches always say nice things about players that work hard and stay out of trouble, even if they suck. That's true. I happen to believe that they really are done adding at Edge, though. They have three veterans in Hughes, Addison, and Murphy. They have a highly drafted youngster in Epenesa. That right there is the likely four-man rotation. Behind those four, they have two developmental prospects they like in Love and Johnson. I don't see them adding another older veteran like Griffen to the existing group. One could argue that they should cut Murphy and add Griffen instead, but I'd disagree with that notion. I'm not saying Griffen isn't a good player. I just don't think the Bills have any interest in signing him.
NewEra Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 8 hours ago, BarleyNY said: This SI story talks about the kinds of contracts the writer would expect him get if he went to Cleveland. One year, $12.75M or two years, $23.1M. If that’s legitimately his range, then he’s not a fit here. Even with cutting Murphy (saving about $8M) that’s too much with the Addison addition and Hughes on the books. Griffen will probably sign somewhere right after Clowney does. Same suitors and Clowney will set the current market, so that chip probably has to fall first. Too much for one year? Crazy talk. Makes zero sense. Cut Murphy and adding him makes sense from a talent standpoint but I think they like Murphy and are happy with him for 2020. Also, Griffen hasn’t played in the left side too much in the nfl. He did some in college while Jerry and Mario have both played the majority of their snaps on the right. Not sure if that really matters
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