Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Bleedingreennc said: the Jets and Dolphins will battle for the 2nd spot, but with the Jets having the 2nd hardest schedule i think the Dolphins take the 2nd spot. All hail the Pats being last. I wouldnt be surprised if the Pats go 0-6 in the division. Jets will finish ahead of the Patriots? And you say Bills fans have rose colored glasses? Hope you are right but I don't see the GOAT coach not fielding a competitive team. Especially not after coming off a season with the number one ranked defense. But maybe Stidham will be Peterman level bad?
TuelTime Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/what-if-the-best-qb-in-the-afc-east-is…-ryan-fitzpatrick/ar-BB14FS05?li=BBnba9I 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, ColeB said: Sorry, I have no time for the opinion of an ex-QB who couldn’t even keep track of the back of the end zone. On field play has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to understand a position and evaluate players. I never understood why why people think good player equals good evaluator. History has proven otherwise in basically every sport. 5
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Dan sucked as QB and he Sucks at ranking them. Allen is number one hands down and thats not biased. Edited May 28, 2020 by Buffalo Barbarian 2
John from Riverside Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 9 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I would bet you a lot of money Tua will have a better nfl career than Stidham (assuming he can stay healthy). Of course no one knows for sure but it’s not really a stretch to think that. and it’s funny when Chris Simms or Jordan Palmer gives positive stuff about Allen, no posters try to put down their careers, ? I mean....its a safe bet....provided the hip holds up....which frankly bothers me 1
TwistofFate Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Dan sucked as QB and he Sucks at ranking them. Allen is number one hands down and thats not biased. Coming from a guy who's name is Buffalo Barbarian, I beg to differ.
TwistofFate Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Jets will finish ahead of the Patriots? And you say Bills fans have rose colored glasses? Hope you are right but I don't see the GOAT coach not fielding a competitive team. Especially not after coming off a season with the number one ranked defense. But maybe Stidham will be Peterman level bad? Brady was the ?... But, if Belly is as masterful as many believe, he's not trying to win this year. His goal has been to build a defense, tank with Stidham, then draft Lawerence. Brady Round 2....with a defense in place.
Malazan Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Brady was the ?... But, if Belly is as masterful as many believe, he's not trying to win this year. His goal has been to build a defense, tank with Stidham, then draft Lawerence. Brady Round 2....with a defense in place. Why does he need to tank for a 6th round QB?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I bet you won’t say it to his face! Worst autocorrect ever
Thurman#1 Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Clutchwarfare said: Every time I see articles/rankings like this, it makes me wonder if I'm blinded by loyalty; if I'm just too focused on the Buffalo Bills to realize that Josh really is more toward the bottom of the pack. In my mind he's a franchise QB and knocking on the door of the top 10. But nationwide, people just don't see it that way. Maybe it was the lack of prime time games in his 1st two seasons. People constantly overlook the playoff appearance and even the fact that he had more rushing TDs than Lamar Jackson. So my question is: Are we crazy, or is the nationwide NFL audience blind? Probably a combo of both. IMO it's just a case of people having different opinions. Happens all the time, very reasonably. Nobody knows for sure what will happen. More so with Tua. He might not even play. Or he might play and be really good. Edited May 28, 2020 by Thurman#1
machine gun kelly Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 It’s silly to rank a QB who hasn’t played a down in the NFL as #1 in the division, but then these rankings are dumb. I understand Darnold ranked higher as he is polished, but he will be forever cursed for being coached by Gase until he is fired.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 21 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I know these rankings don't mean anything at all, but until the season starts, we have nothing better to talk about. This is ridiculous. He ranked Darnold number 1, Tua at #2! then Allen and then Stidham. How the hell can you rank Tua higher than Allen after everything he accomplished so far? I am fine with him favoring Darnold right now, even though I disagree, but come on! Tua? We are getting a lot of love right now from the media, so this isn't a media bashing thread, just a statement at how bad Orlovsky's take is. He seems to have an agenda against Josh Allen, which he continues to attribute to "inaccuracy". To judge Tua's place in the pantheon of NFL QBs right now is sheer lunacy. 1
thurst44 Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 20 hours ago, DCOrange said: I don't think this is egregious at all. I personally would rank Allen higher than that, but saying Darnold and Tua are better than Allen is reasonable IMO. Ranking a QB who led his team to the playoffs and had 22 TDs and 3 INTs in the last 13 games should rank behind a QB who was injury prone in college and has not played a down in the NFL is reasonable? Well, you have a right to YO.
GimmeSomeProcess Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 Who cares on paper, Tua looks like he could be the better qb. Awesome stats at a big program, they are feeding into the hype machine. I don’t think Tua will be as good in college but won’t know until it plays out.
DCOrange Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, thurst44 said: Ranking a QB who led his team to the playoffs and had 22 TDs and 3 INTs in the last 13 games should rank behind a QB who was injury prone in college and has not played a down in the NFL is reasonable? Well, you have a right to YO. At best, Allen has proven himself to be an average starting QB. The general consensus would probably put him somewhere in the 20-25 range of QBs while I would say somewhere in the 15-20 range is probably more accurate. It's not a stretch at all to think a rookie QB could play at that level, especially one as highly touted as Tua.
Doc Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, TwistofFate said: Brady was the ?... But, if Belly is as masterful as many believe, he's not trying to win this year. His goal has been to build a defense, tank with Stidham, then draft Lawerence. Brady Round 2....with a defense in place. As I’ve said before, where is the trick in winning with a (supposed) generational QB? The Cheaters being the worst team in the NFL makes Brady the one responsible for the success, not Belicheat given his time in Cleveland. Now the Cheaters may and probably will still suck, but I doubt that’s Belicheat’s plan. 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Thanks for setting me straight on how to be a fan. It was those damn refs that let Houston come back from a 16-0 hole! ? No it’s those refs who negated a TD. No wait, it was some guys in black shirts who had to come onto the field who did that. 1
Billl Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: To judge Tua's place in the pantheon of NFL QBs right now is sheer lunacy. I don’t think the current AFCE is exactly the pantheon of NFL QBs right now. Unless a couple guys make big jumps, it may be the worst collection of QB play a division has ever seen. 2
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 28, 2020 Author Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Billl said: I don’t think the current AFCE is exactly the pantheon of NFL QBs right now. Unless a couple guys make big jumps, it may be the worst collection of QB play a division has ever seen. I am very much willing to say that is not the case. I am sure the crack research team here at TBD can come up with a list of divisional QB's that ranked below this one, which includes 3 first rounders and a relatively successful veteran journeyman. I'm just too lazy to do the research myself.
DCOrange Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Billl said: I don’t think the current AFCE is exactly the pantheon of NFL QBs right now. Unless a couple guys make big jumps, it may be the worst collection of QB play a division has ever seen. I doubt it's the worst in NFL history but I think it's pretty indisputably the worst in the league right now.
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 28, 2020 Author Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I doubt it's the worst in NFL history but I think it's pretty indisputably the worst in the league right now. What about the AFC South, with Watson, Rivers, Tannehill and Minshew/Glennon/Dobbs? Or the NFC East with Prescott, Jones, Wentz and Haskins? I would rank those groups below the AFCE, but I guess it depends how you are ranking them... 1
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