Niagara Bill Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Cinga said: Anyone else see the hypocrisy in all of this? Libs are okay with trying to force a private bakery for instance, to bake a cake for a gay wedding and scream free speech and a violation of civil rights if they refuse. But then think it is okay for a publicly traded company, that provides a very public forum to the public, to stifle speech? Seriously the bakery thing is bad politics. Religion and government should not touch, if you run a business you should be required to serve any citizen. Are you against fact checking, or just because of Trump. It would be ok if it was Putin or China, or N Korea or Rhino, or Tiberius.
LeGOATski Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I do not, but they do take down posts and ban posters, and suspend people much like TBD for offensive posts and misinformation. Maybe he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is POTUS, and another account would be suspended? They do give the benefit of the doubt to leaders. FB has a similar policy dubbed the "newsworthy exception" Twitter's been letting it go for a while but the scrutiny intensifies. Adding a simple fact check link doesn't stifle any free speech. Its very concerning to have a president who wants to control news/social media. Trump wants a dictatorship as much as possible. We can't let that happen. 2 2
Cinga Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Seriously the bakery thing is bad politics. Religion and government should not touch, if you run a business you should be required to serve any citizen. Are you against fact checking, or just because of Trump. It would be ok if it was Putin or China, or N Korea or Rhino, or Tiberius. You just proved my point on the private bakery, thank you. As for fact checking, I wouldn't care if i was factual and balanced, and not a terrible example of lazy journalism. However there is no such thing as balance in reporting anymore, so fact checking should be done away with completely. The Trump tweet on mail in ballots was a great example of lazy journalism. To claim that "many experts" believe mail in voting is not subject of fraud during a time when we are repeatedly shown fraudulent mail in voting on the news is beyond stupid! But the problem goes even deeper since most supposed fact checks today could be disputed with even a minor search. 22 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Its very concerning to have a president who wants to control news/social media. Trump wants a dictatorship as much as possible. We can't let that happen. How the **** is he trying to control the media? Looks more like an argument in favor of FREE SPEECH to me? 1 1
LeGOATski Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: How the **** is he trying to control the media? Looks more like an argument in favor of FREE SPEECH to me? Get your head out of your ass then? I don't know what else to tell ya 1
Warren Zevon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cinga said: How the **** is he trying to control the media? Looks more like an argument in favor of FREE SPEECH to me? We will strongly regulate, or close them down 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, westside2 said: Which libtard is this? So many different accounts by the left on this board. If they are so honest, why do they have to keep changing their name? Buck Nasty is Q Baby 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: You can't be this r.etarded, Warren. A "fact check" that links to CNN? CNN. No really. Yes he can 3
Cinga Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: We will strongly regulate, or close them down Yeah, it's pretty bad when a government entity has to regulate a public forum to make sure they allow Free Speech in this country huh? 1
LeGOATski Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: We will strongly regulate, or close them down As he posts on that very platform... Holy hell Both liberals and conservatives have been posting unencumbered on social media. I personally stay off of it all. TBD is my social media, lol. 1 minute ago, Cinga said: Yeah, it's pretty bad when a government entity has to regulate a public forum to make sure they allow Free Speech in this country huh? Please explain how a fact check link denies free speech. 1
Warren Zevon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cinga said: Yeah, it's pretty bad when a government entity has to regulate a public forum to make sure they allow Free Speech in this country huh? What are you talking about? Has Trump's speech been stifled? 1 1
GG Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: You are correct. The dems are no better...but a coup usually is associated with a dictator, and this situation is beginning to resemble that. You cannot image just how wrong you are 3
Warren Zevon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: You cannot image just how wrong you are You cannot imagine just how much the 5G waves impair your ability to type. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: if you run a business you should be required to serve any citizen. and you fear dictatorship?
GG Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: You cannot imagine just how much the 5G waves impair your ability to type. You're still a blithering moron. Show what I said about 5G, liar. Why are you still here after saying you'd leave? 1 1
Niagara Bill Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: and you fear dictatorship? No, that would be called freedom for all. Religion should not be able to control access to some. Religion must be left at the door by all, including the owners and shareholders.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said: No, that would be called freedom for all. Religion should not be able to control access to some. Religion must be left at the door by all, including the owners and shareholders. I see. So, ownership of a business doesn't entitle one to serve who they please. But you're OK with twitter silencing some of their customers but not all? Bit of a double standard there, isn't it?
Warren Zevon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: But you're OK with twitter silencing some of their customers but not all? Was Trump silenced?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: Was Trump silenced? Alex Jones was. And he's just one person. Trump would be if he wasn't the President. So again, I ask you noble progressives, why is it ok for Twitter to silence conservatives but not ok for a baker to not bake cakes for someone whose "lifestyle" they don't approve of?
Warren Zevon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Alex Jones was Alex Jones in Winslow - always knew you were a huge fan
Niagara Bill Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: I see. So, ownership of a business doesn't entitle one to serve who they please. But you're OK with twitter silencing some of their customers but not all? Bit of a double standard there, isn't it? Right on. Business serve the public. What would say if Muslim owned Mobil did not serve Baptists, or females unless they had a veil. By the way, I am not ok with fact checking by Twitter on Trump only. Pols spend more time creating their version of the truth.
LeGOATski Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: No, that would be called freedom for all. Religion should not be able to control access to some. Religion must be left at the door by all, including the owners and shareholders. You're not really explaining discrimination well, which doesn't help your argument. Business owners discriminating against patrons is the issue around the instance you're referring to. There is some grey area there, but I doubt any discussion on that will be productive in this forum.
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