Inigo Montoya Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) Here are the first six picks of the 2017 Draft class. 1.1 Myles Garrett DE Browns 1.2 Mitch Trubisky QB Bears 1.3 Solomon Thomas DE 49ers 1.4 Leonard Fournette RB Jaguars 1.5 Corey Davis WR Titans 1.6 Jamal Adams S Jets Out of the first six picks at the top of the Draft that year, only Garrett and Adams have had their fifth year option exercised, and the Jets have Jamal Adams on the trade block right now. The other four have significantly underperformed their consensus Draft day projections. Stefon Diggs was drafted in the 5th round, #146, in the 2015 Draft. Who were the top three draft picks in 2015's Draft? Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, and Dante Fowler. What do those three have in common? None of them had their 5th year option exercised either. I'd rather take a surefire NFL talent like Diggs than roll the dice with a college player with potential. As long as this franchise doesn't need a QB, I'm fine with Beane trading our first round pick every year for a talent like Diggs who is locked up on a team friendly contract. Edited May 26, 2020 by Inigo Montoya 7 1 1
Brennan Huff Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 This is pretty common knowledge. No such thing as a “sure thing”. Fred Jackson (undrafted) > CJ Spiller (top 10 pick) 6
Blank Stare Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) *Dante Fowler And, yes I agree. People (not on this board but in the media) were getting all worked up because of what we gave up for Diggs. Based on where we were picking, I’ll take the proven commodity all day. Especially at a position of desperation and on a reasonable deal (comparatively speaking). Edited May 26, 2020 by TheProcess 3
Inigo Montoya Posted May 26, 2020 Author Posted May 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: This is pretty common knowledge. No such thing as a “sure thing”. Fred Jackson (undrafted) > CJ Spiller (top 10 pick) 4 minutes ago, nucci said: never heard that term used before The point of my thread is that Beane's trade of the 1st round pick was the best use of that valuable draft capital. The players/situations sited only provided context for my position. 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The problem with trading for players with team friendly contract is players often will often hold out feeling circumstances are changed and they deserve more money while those with contracts for those which are overpaid will rarely take pay cuts only restructure moving more money forward making them harder to cut later. An even bigger problem is whiffing on a 1st round selection. 2 minutes ago, TheProcess said: *Dante Fowler Thanks Process, I fixed it ? 2
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, nucci said: never heard that term used before ?? ? or ?? ? * You can't find an actual firearm in my emojis. ? 2
GunnerBill Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Here are the first six picks of the 2017 Draft class. 1.1 Myles Garrett DE Browns 1.2 Mitch Trubisky QB Bears 1.3 Solomon Thomas DE 49ers 1.4 Leonard Fournette RB Jaguars 1.5 Corey Davis WR Titans 1.6 Jamal Adams S Jets Out of the first six picks at the top of the Draft that year, only Garrett and Adams have had their fifth year option exercised, and the Jets have Jamal Adams on the trade block right now. The other four have significantly underperformed their consensus Draft day projections. Stefon Diggs was drafted in the 5th round, #146, in the 2015 Draft. Who were the top three draft picks in 2015's Draft? Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, and Dante Fowler. What do those three have in common? None of them had their 5th year option exercised either. I'd rather take a surefire NFL talent like Diggs than roll the dice with a college player with potential. As long as this franchise doesn't need a QB, I'm fine with Beane trading our first round pick every year for a talent like Diggs who is locked up on a team friendly contract. Trubisky and Thomas were overdrafted. Said that at the time. Fournette's issues are as much off field as on. The one I am genuinely really surprised hasn't been a success is Corey Davis. I had a really high grade on him and I have liked him when I have seen him play in the NFL too. Not really sure what the issue has been and he has been nicked up some. He is the kind of player who I would not be surprised to see go somewhere else and suddenly pop. Edited May 26, 2020 by GunnerBill 1
Inigo Montoya Posted May 26, 2020 Author Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: This just in... This just in... Mr. Weo eats glue. 5 1
Blank Stare Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Thanks Process, I fixed it ? Right on ?. Innocent mistake. It happens and I’m not usually that guy. 2
Mr. WEO Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said: This just in... Mr. Weo eats glue. How’s 2016 doing?
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: This just in... Mr. Weo eats glue. The really bad stuff? Or just the white paste that most of us snacked on in grade school? 3 1
Mr. WEO Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: The really bad stuff? Or just the white paste that most of us snacked on in grade school? Testors Modeling Cement...huffed. 4
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Testors Modeling Cement...huffed. DAY-um. Mofo's hardcore, Holmes. 1 1
JMF2006 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Yes Indigo I think the TBD crew pretty well reached a consensus on this right after Beane pulled the trigger on this trade. Getting that 7th round pick solidified the deal for most
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Are you telling me we didn’t draft 7 pro bowlers this year? Damn
aristocrat Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 and watson who was a superstart and was a victim of maybe too much success if there is such a thing falls hard. guy should have gone to anyone in the top 6 2 1
SoCal Deek Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 Always take the proven veteran over the unproven draft prospect. Always. 1
mjt328 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: Here are the first six picks of the 2017 Draft class. 1.1 Myles Garrett DE Browns 1.2 Mitch Trubisky QB Bears 1.3 Solomon Thomas DE 49ers 1.4 Leonard Fournette RB Jaguars 1.5 Corey Davis WR Titans 1.6 Jamal Adams S Jets Out of the first six picks at the top of the Draft that year, only Garrett and Adams have had their fifth year option exercised, and the Jets have Jamal Adams on the trade block right now. The other four have significantly underperformed their consensus Draft day projections. Stefon Diggs was drafted in the 5th round, #146, in the 2015 Draft. Who were the top three draft picks in 2015's Draft? Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, and Dante Fowler. What do those three have in common? None of them had their 5th year option exercised either. I'd rather take a surefire NFL talent like Diggs than roll the dice with a college player with potential. As long as this franchise doesn't need a QB, I'm fine with Beane trading our first round pick every year for a talent like Diggs who is locked up on a team friendly contract. If the draft is a total crap shoot, then scouting doesn't matter and teams should be able to just pick a random person off the street to be the GM. Also, the best strategy would be to continually trade down until you have stockpiled dozens of selections in the 6th-7th Round. 1 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Always take the proven veteran over the unproven draft prospect. Always. That was inscribed on the third tablet, Commandments 11-15. Thanks, Moses. ?
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