SectionC3 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: It appears that once again you've made a careless, nonsensical post. I assume that you meant that you were "not sure" rather than "but sure" about her political affiliation. It was well known at the time that she was a flaming liberal. You're either incompetent regarding what her sentiments were/are or you are a liar. I vote for both. BTW, no matter how hard you try to goad me into showing you my dick, that's not me. Go tap your foot on the floor someplace else. Not sure why you keep bringing up the issue of your “dick.” It’s very disturbing. I certainly have no interest in either seeing or straining to see such a thing. 1
3rdnlng Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Not sure why you keep bringing up the issue of your “dick.” It’s very disturbing. I certainly have no interest in either seeing or straining to see such a thing. Typical Democrat, accusing me of what you are guilty of. 3rd Chair, is your constant referral to my dick just a way to respond to me in regards to that and avoid the more important issues included in my post? Seems like you always find a way to ignore the real issues and send the conversation down a rabbit hole.
SectionC3 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Typical Democrat, accusing me of what you are guilty of. 3rd Chair, is your constant referral to my dick just a way to respond to me in regards to that and avoid the more important issues included in my post? Seems like you always find a way to ignore the real issues and send the conversation down a rabbit hole. Hoax. I address the important issues. Unlike you, however, I don’t focus on the question of a certain appendage of yours. Sick!
3rdnlng Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I address the important issues. Unlike you, however, I don’t focus on the question of a certain appendage of yours. Sick! You refuse to address anyone here regarding the reasons behind your faith in Ford's claims but again bring up a lie to obfuscate the real issues and try to hit on me. Stick to your regular forums for that kind of talk.
SectionC3 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You refuse to address anyone here regarding the reasons behind your faith in Ford's claims but again bring up a lie to obfuscate the real issues and try to hit on me. Stick to your regular forums for that kind of talk. I don’t have to address anyone about my opinion. Sorry. Whatever dialogue is had in that point isn’t going to change my mind. I watched, I listened, I evaluated, and I concluded that I believed her testimony and not his. Now, on your weird dysmorphic disorder, your obsession with your junk has got to end. It’s deeply disturbing to all of us here who wish to engage in clean, intellectual, and family-friendly conversation.
3rdnlng Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: I don’t have to address anyone about my opinion. Sorry. Whatever dialogue is had in that point isn’t going to change my mind. I watched, I listened, I evaluated, and I concluded that I believed her testimony and not his. Now, on your weird dysmorphic disorder, your obsession with your junk has got to end. It’s deeply disturbing to all of us here who wish to engage in clean, intellectual, and family-friendly conversation. Lightweight.
SectionC3 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Lightweight. Hoax. You just came up short again!
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 One thing Obama and Trump's presidency has proven is the partisan divide is now more about hatred of the other side as opposed to devotion to one's own party. That became crystal clear to me with the reactions on here when Trump agreed to meet with Kim Jong Un.
Q-baby! Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Is that really true about the cost of the wall versus the Obamacare website? If so, that’s hilarious! Probably. I mean, there’s not much of a wall.
Q-baby! Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 7 hours ago, mead107 said: I am not looking for an argument, debate, or fight in posting this. So, if you are, simply move on past it...because I will not reply. I simply want to put it out there for you to give some consideration to... However, I personally think it is beyond SPOT ON! WOW...this is one of the best posts I’ve ever shared. People need to wake up and look at the facts before we as a nation are a thing of the past. GOD BLESS the USA! ??❤️ Tim Allen is credited with writing this... Here are some interesting points to think about prior to 2020, especially to my friends on the fence, like moderate Democrats, Libertarians and Independents and the never Trump Republicans and those thinking of "walking away" from the Democratic party. Women are upset at Trump’s naughty words -- they also bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Gray. Not one feminist has defended Sarah Sanders. It seems women’s rights only matter if those women are liberal. No Border Walls. No voter ID laws. Did you figure it out yet? But wait... there's more. Chelsea Clinton got out of college and got a job at NBC that paid $900,000 per year. Her mom flies around the country speaking out about white privilege. And just like that, they went from being against foreign interference in our elections to allowing non-citizens to vote in our elections. President Trump’s wall costs less than the Obamacare website. Let that sink in, America. We are one election away from open borders, socialism, gun confiscation, and full-term abortion nationally. We are fighting evil. They sent more troops and armament to arrest Roger Stone than they sent to defend Benghazi. 60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index. Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation. In only 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism. Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign. Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation. But Trump was the one investigated! Nancy Pelosi invited illegal aliens to the State of the Union. President Trump Invited victims of illegal aliens to the State of the Union. Let that sink in. A socialist is basically a communist who doesn’t have the power to take everything from their citizens at gunpoint ... Yet! How do you walk 3000 miles across Mexico without food or support and show up at our border 100 pounds overweight and with a cellphone? Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants to ban cars, ban planes, give out universal income and thinks socialism works. She calls Donald Trump crazy. Bill Clinton paid $850,000 to Paula Jones To get her to go away. I don’t remember the FBI raiding his lawyer’s office. I wake up every day and I am grateful that Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States of America. The same media that told me Hillary Clinton had a 95% chance of winning now tells me Trump’s approval ratings are low. “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”— Margaret Thatcher. Maxine Waters opposes voter ID laws; She thinks that they are racist. You need to have a photo ID to attend her town hall meetings. “They’re not after me. They’re after you. I’m just in their way.” ~ President Trump Read that again. You confirmed that was Tim Allen, right?
KD in CA Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: One thing Obama and Trump's presidency has proven is the partisan divide is now more about hatred of the other side as opposed to devotion to one's own party. That became crystal clear to me with the reactions on here when Trump agreed to meet with Kim Jong Un. It's been clear since 'Sore Loserman 2000', which the left has never gotten past. But it was super duper clear on election night when the TDS crowd went bat-**** crazy, at a level many times worse than any reaction generated by Clinton/Bush/Obama combined. 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) On 5/23/2020 at 8:53 AM, mead107 said: I am not looking for an argument, debate, or fight in posting this. So, if you are, simply move on past it...because I will not reply. I simply want to put it out there for you to give some consideration to... However, I personally think it is beyond SPOT ON! Tim Allen is credited with writing this... We are one election away from open borders, socialism, gun confiscation, and full-term abortion nationally. We are fighting evil. 60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index. Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation. In only 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism. A socialist is basically a communist who doesn’t have the power to take everything from their citizens at gunpoint ... Yet! Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants to ban cars, ban planes, give out universal income and thinks socialism works. She calls Donald Trump crazy. “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”— Margaret Thatcher. Fair enough. I can agree with most of Mr. Allen’s points and shrug my shoulders at a few others, but the inner left-wing snowflake in me was heavily triggered from the Venezuela remark, so I am compelled to respond without expectations of an answer. What exactly does socialism have to do with that particular crisis?! The causes were: a horribly unbalanced economy singularly dependent on oil exports, over-the-top internal corruption within Chavez and Maduro regimes, extremely reckless spending over budget, extremely reckless printing of money to solve the budget crisis, and stupid price control policies. Then came Trump’s severe and inhumane economic sanctions within the past few years that have made any attempts at recovery impossible. All of these contributing factors could, in theory, be found in capitalist systems (minus the price control policies). None of these contributing factors are necessary for socialist systems (minus price control policies for specific types of proven failed socialist systems). There is an entire continent filled with socialist countries with healthy GDP’s per capita, high living standards, and happy citizens. In practice, there’s no such thing as a purely “socialist” country (Cuba I think is the closest) or a purely “capitalist” country (maybe Somalia is one?). All are essentially variations of what we would call a mixed economy. My reply to Tim Allen would be that criticism of socialism is absolutely fair game, but just make sure to specify which of the many different types you are referring to when doing so. Someone from Singapore might look down at the United States as a failing socialist country, for example. On 5/23/2020 at 9:47 AM, KRC said: Agreed that interventionist policies do justify a larger budget. So do things like updating the equipment used by our military, raising the pay for military (even if it is just cost of living increases), increased costs for supplies, etc. That is why I usually separate them as the latter can have nothing to do with interventionist policies and are strictly related to the costs of having a military. I believe that each are separate arguments and should be debated on their own merits. Reducing the amount of troops abroad (which I support) will reduce costs to have a military, but we also need to ensure that our military has what they need and are paid for the job they are doing. I am guessing we have common ground on the last statement, but I do not want to put words in your mouth. That is just my impression based on your previous postings, but I could be wrong. Another separate debate is on the amount of money that the DoD pays their contractors for work and supplies, but we can save that for another time. There is definite bloat that could be trimmed. You are correct that we want the current regime to go away. I believe that sanctions are working. Yes, the regime is blaming the US, but the Iranian people are seeing through that façade as you mentioned. I could go on for a while about North Korea (a particular interest of mine for a while), but I will save that for another time. I disagree that the rebellion would happen if we lifted sanctions. I think that the sanctions would prove to be a better environment to foster a rebellion. You can look at Maslow two ways. The first would be the way you are looking at it, meaning that if you satisfy the lower needs on the pyramid, a person will be able to focus on the rebellion as their basic needs have been met. However, you are still moving up the pyramid with more needs to be satisfied. I look at it this way. As long as the regime is taking away the basic needs of the people (whether sanctions are in place or not) the people are still not having their basic needs met. As you move up Maslow's pyramid, there is less motivation to meet needs until you get to the self-actualization stage (the final stage). At that point, motivation increases again. Therefore, I believe that there will be more motivation the lower the people are on the pyramid. I do believe that tax cuts will help those without jobs. They were still working at the beginning of the year and they have to pay Pelosi for the right to give their money to her political pals. Cut taxes so that the people can keep more of their money. As far as corporations and small businesses, they need an influx in cash flow in order to open back up. That is especially true of small businesses who do not have the cash reserves to sustain activities with reduced or no revenue. Once the country opens back up, these businesses will need cash on hand in order to hire people back and pay them while they wait for revenue to start to flow again. I do not think we are too far off on what is needed, just how to accomplish it. Giving more money to the government is not going to get it into the hands of the American people who need it. Let them keep their money and have the government cut their spending on pork so they have the money where it is truly needed (not in the pockets of political donors). Amazon is a large customer of ours, do don't say nasty things about them. ? You had me up to the end. I am more on the libertarian side where I want to reduce Keynesian solutions to economic problems. I look forward to the discussion. I will make sure I am in my safe space first. 1. Defense budget and interventionism: yep it looks like we agree on everything here. Is this a PPP first?! I’d streamline our post-Cold War military with a heavy emphasis away from soldier numbers and toward high-tech capabilities…and with a wary eye on China…which I basically think we’re trying to do already but not fast enough for my liking. 2. Iran: I probably need to think harder about the historical nature of political revolutions. The successes and failures, the causes, the character traits and backgrounds of its leaders, the violence, and the peaceful protest strategies. In the end, though, I will likely stick with my stance against economic sanctions on purely ethical grounds. 3. Solutions for the current economic crisis: I won’t resist any of your supply-side solutions like tax cuts and deregulations because they will help to some extent. What I want to highlight are the people falling through the cracks on the demand side. The pre-pandemic long-term unemployed, recent college grads, people who were already on financial thin ice with debts or health issues or exorbitant bills before the pandemic, the already homeless, everyone whose unemployment benefits will eventually run out, etc… The Paycheck Protection Program can only do so much for a limited amount of time. It’s too late already for a number of small businesses and their employees. I’m proposing sunset UBI’s, mandatory rent and mortgage deferments, and variations of a temporary M4A for the unemployed. I also want enforced oversight of the big corporations that were bailed out to make sure they’re maintaining payrolls and not doing stock buybacks. There are time constraints and windows of opportunity for many of these options, so someone on this message board should tweet Trump as soon as we collectively come up with a solution… 4. Amazon company: oh, actually I wasn’t even thinking about monopolies and labor rights and trillionaires and tax evasions when I made that remark (but those are important too). I’ve been having issues with shoes that I ordered. Some economic goods are better off purchased in person at physical stores out in the real world. I hope no Bernie Bros are reading this and judging me for my bourgeoisie fashion priorities? 5. Keynesian philosophy: over at the President Trump’s Re-Election Campaign thread, I stumbled my way into a Keynesian econ mini-discussion. Feel free to check over my reasoning if you have the time. 21 hours ago, Doc Brown said: One thing Obama and Trump's presidency has proven is the partisan divide is now more about hatred of the other side as opposed to devotion to one's own party. That became crystal clear to me with the reactions on here when Trump agreed to meet with Kim Jong Un. Good point. I’d only add that devotion to one’s own party isn’t a virtue. Country before party. Party loyalty among Democrats caused Trump and will lead to future Trumps. 19 hours ago, KD in CA said: It's been clear since 'Sore Loserman 2000', which the left has never gotten past. But it was super duper clear on election night when the TDS crowd went bat-**** crazy, at a level many times worse than any reaction generated by Clinton/Bush/Obama combined. Hmmm…so maybe it’s winning the popular vote while losing the electoral college that drives my side into such a frenzy? I’ve seen an argument put forth that the breakdown in our national political discourse began with the 1987 Robert Bork Supreme Court rejection. I wasn’t around then, so maybe someone who was wants to comment? Does the over-the-top partisan bickering go back even further? Or was it always this way? My left-leaning suspicion has been that it began with the rise of Limbaugh and cable TV news plus the Lewinsky scandal in the 90’s. Edited May 24, 2020 by RealKayAdams 1
Just Joshin' Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: Hmmm…so maybe it’s winning the popular vote while losing the electoral college that drives my side into such a frenzy? I’ve seen an argument put forth that the breakdown in our national political discourse began with the 1987 Robert Bork Supreme Court rejection. I wasn’t around then, so maybe someone who was wants to comment? Does the over-the-top partisan bickering go back even further? Or was it always this way? My left-leaning suspicion has been that it began with the rise of Limbaugh and cable TV news plus the Lewinsky scandal in the 90’s. Since you seem more open minded and sincere than many on the left here, may I suggest the Clarence Thomas bio that just ran on PBS. It shows many of the things we still see today but today's coverage is daily/constant with the change in news delivery. The show is interesting in that it shows his journey from being a radical to a libertarian. The politics are also shown as the same playbook including a line about he can't be black if not a democrat. Joe is not the first to utter this line of thinking, it appears to be a democratic staple. Lastly, watch Biden in the SC hearing and see the hypocrisy as they apply the rules differently to Thomas. 1
KD in CA Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: Hmmm…so maybe it’s winning the popular vote while losing the electoral college that drives my side into such a frenzy? I’ve seen an argument put forth that the breakdown in our national political discourse began with the 1987 Robert Bork Supreme Court rejection. I wasn’t around then, so maybe someone who was wants to comment? Does the over-the-top partisan bickering go back even further? Or was it always this way? My left-leaning suspicion has been that it began with the rise of Limbaugh and cable TV news plus the Lewinsky scandal in the 90’s. >There are clear rules for deciding a Presidential election. Yet the left goes into a 'frenzy' every time they lose one. >The President has a clear right to name USSC justices. Yet the left goes into a 'frenzy' every time a Republican POTUS nominates one. Bork was the first time they did it and succeeded. After that the Republicans grew a spine and didn't let them get away with the same crap with Thomas or Kavanaugh (the most disgraceful political hit job attempt ever). Both things in this post highlight that the left are just power-mad scumbags who don't respect the rules of our republic. 1
BillStime Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 5/21/2020 at 11:13 AM, Deranged Rhino said: It's not "deep state conspiracy stuff" -- it's actual facts. *It's a FACT that Trump/Russia was never real, that it was a piece of fiction created in the Oval Office and pushed by the CIA, DOJ, FBI, and their media cut-outs for three years despite everyone involved knowing it was not real. * It's a FACT that this was done, not to protect the country from Trump, but to subvert the will of the voters whose choice they disagreed with. * It's a FACT that the SCO knew, before Mueller even took the job, that there was no crime to investigate -- which is why they turned it into a perjury trap. * It's a FACT that the last administration abused the powers of surveillance to illegally spy on AMERICANS: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/world/senate-intelligence-commitee-cia-interrogation-report.html https://www.realclearpolicy.com/2019/05/27/obama_spying_on_press_more_extensive_than_previously_thought_41847.html https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf That's why you're failing so hard right now, you can't see the difference. This is incorrect. I used PRIMARY SOURCES as my evidence. And I cite sources from the entire MSM spectrum. Again, if your position was as solid as you think it was, you wouldn't need to lie or distort to make your point... Try READING the sources included, rather than just looking. You'd be amazed at what you can learn. 👆🤡 👇🎯 1
Westside Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: 👆🤡 👇🎯 Obsessed much? F’n mama’s boy. Get out of the basement and get a job. Pathetic!
BillStime Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Westside said: Obsessed much? F’n mama’s boy. Get out of the basement and get a job. Pathetic! Awe did I hurt your feelings westside2?
Westside Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Awe did I hurt your feelings westside2? Nope, you don’t have the ability to do such a thing. Now go get a job you lazy bum.
BillStime Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Westside said: Nope, you don’t have the ability to do such a thing. Now go get a job you lazy bum. Speak for yourself, precious.
Tiberius Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, Westside said: Nope, you don’t have the ability to do such a thing. Now go get a job you lazy bum. Poor westy, it must be frustrating being you 1
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