Sherlock Holmes Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 We have Beasley which can be Diggs poor mans Thielen.
Doc Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said: We have Beasley which can be Diggs poor mans Thielen. Brown is better than Thielen. He's a #1 WR. Thielen will struggle in that role this year. 1
John from Riverside Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 I just love how we aggressively addressed this position......THREE wide receivers with 2 of them being drafted in a WR rich draft. Diggs was my guyu......wanted him on the bills for a while...he makes everything easier
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 Diggs, Brown, Beasley, and Knox will all have over 700 yards receiving this year while one go over 1000. Add another 300 for Singletary. Daboll is going to spread the ball around. 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I want a 2! If brown is the third best WR it means this offense can do anything Brown is a 1a. He is better than any #2 in the league. Beasley is a role player perfect #3. The only issue will be who is the #2 when they are in a 2 WR red zone or running down and distance. Will they go with Duke Williams or the rookie for their size? Os just play it straight with Diggs and Brown?
MJS Posted May 19, 2020 Author Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc said: Brown is better than Thielen. He's a #1 WR. Thielen will struggle in that role this year. Thielen is pretty dang good... 24 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brown is a 1a. He is better than any #2 in the league. Beasley is a role player perfect #3. The only issue will be who is the #2 when they are in a 2 WR red zone or running down and distance. Will they go with Duke Williams or the rookie for their size? Os just play it straight with Diggs and Brown? Part of it will depend on matchups and the teams we faced. When we played Baltimore our receivers were getting mugged and the officials decided to just let them play, so we were physically outmatched. For teams like that they might play the bigger WR's (plus Diggs because he should never leave the field, IMO). Edited May 19, 2020 by MJS
Doc Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, MJS said: Thielen is pretty dang good... We'll see. I'm betting he has a JuJu-like season without Diggs.
GunnerBill Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 8 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I think the real question is does he make hay facing CB2s and I think the answer is unequivocally yes Yea that is right. 7 hours ago, Doc said: Brown is better than Thielen. He's a #1 WR. Thielen will struggle in that role this year. Hmmm. I have been the first to say Thielen will miss Diggs. But he is better than John Brown.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Diggs, Brown, Beasley, and Knox will all have over 700 yards receiving this year while one go over 1000. Add another 300 for Singletary. Daboll is going to spread the ball around. Brown is a 1a. He is better than any #2 in the league. Beasley is a role player perfect #3. The only issue will be who is the #2 when they are in a 2 WR red zone or running down and distance. Will they go with Duke Williams or the rookie for their size? Os just play it straight with Diggs and Brown? Brown imo is overrated by bills fans. His ability to separate is limited in the route tree to the deeper /longer stuff and contested catch red zone ability haven’t been displayed. I like him, but wait till folks see Diggs up close. Teams with better #2’s Tampa Atlanta cleveland Maybe/debatable: Kansas City Arizona Seattle San Diego Dalllas new Orleans Edited May 19, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
No_Matter_What Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, MJS said: I think Brown will have less production. Maybe not by much. Who knows? I imagine it turning out something like this for the top 3 WR's: Diggs- 1,200 yards, 9 TD's Brown- 900 yards, 7 TD's Beasley- 700 yards, 6 TD's I agree with this. It is hard to imagine that Diggs gets over 1k (which I believe) and at the same time Brown increases his production. I also expect Knox and RBs to produce more, and Allen won't throw 6.000 yards
Putin Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 14 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Why can't Brown seamlessly assume the role Thielen played in forcing opposing D's to also shade coverage elsewhere besides Diggs? Similar opportunities should abound in our offense, imho. I read it here first, that Brown is every rich man's #2, our poor man's #1 last year. I think Brown will be our Peerless Price this season 1
Doc Brown Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Brown imo is overrated by bills fans. His ability to separate is limited in the route tree to the deeper /longer stuff and contested catch red zone ability haven’t been displayed. I like him, but wait till folks see Diggs up close. Teams with better #2’s Tampa Atlanta cleveland Maybe/debatable: Kansas City Arizona Seattle San Diego Dalllas new Orleans I agree with this although I still need to see more from Ridley. Just having to watch Benjamin, Zay, Holmes, Foster, Thompson, Matthews etc. over the two previous seasons made Brown look pretty good last year. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said: That is not really what happened though. The coverage more often than not shaded to Diggs in Minnesota. The question is really does Brown make hay facing 1 on 1 more often? He better.
Bangarang Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Doc said: Brown is better than Thielen. He's a #1 WR. Thielen will struggle in that role this year. No he’s not and you don’t know that.
Doc Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Hmmm. I have been the first to say Thielen will miss Diggs. But he is better than John Brown. 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: No he’s not and you don’t know that. We'll see if he can produce almost 71 yards/game without a true #1 opposite him. Do I smell a bet here?
Joe Miner Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 The number of snaps played by Bills WR last year that are not just below average, but not NFL caliber WRs is astonishing. They now have 3 legit high quality NFL receivers on the team and an ever improving QB entering his third year. Expect big things.
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said: That is not really what happened though. The coverage more often than not shaded to Diggs in Minnesota. The question is really does Brown make hay facing 1 on 1 more often? Yep. huge question
GunnerBill Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Doc said: We'll see if he can produce almost 71 yards/game without a true #1 opposite him. Do I smell a bet here? Even if he doesn't, he is still a better receiver than John Brown. Look I have been king of the Diggs is better than Theilen party for 3 years. I am absolutely certain his production will be down without Diggs opposite him. But having Brown as better than him is bonkers. 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Even if he doesn't, he is still a better receiver than John Brown. Look I have been king of the Diggs is better than Theilen party for 3 years. I am absolutely certain his production will be down without Diggs opposite him. But having Brown as better than him is bonkers. So you are inferring Brown is better than Theilen? That i cant wait to see, if true Brown better have a much improved borderline monster year.
GunnerBill Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: So you are inferring Brown is better than Theilen? That i cant wait to see, if true Brown better have a much improved borderline monster year. How did you get that from my post?
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: How did you get that from my post? I was asking a question as i didnt understand what you were getting at. So I assume that means you think Theilen is better than Brown, am i correct on that?
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