MJS Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 This is an analysis using Next Gen Stats. Michael Thomas and Tyler Lockett are 1st and 2nd respectively. They have Diggs at #3: Stefon Diggs Buffalo Bills · WR Catch rate: 67%. Expected catch rate: 56.3%. Difference: 10.7 "We've entered the home-run hitters portion of this list. In what turned out to be his final season with the Minnesota Vikings, Diggs caught just 63 passes but outgained Lockett in receiving yards, riding a yards-per-reception rate of 17.9 to 1,130 (compared to Lockett's 1,057). His catch percentage wasn't nearly as high as Thomas' or Lockett's, but he made the most of his opportunities, posting a +10.7 percent catch-rate difference -- and he did so by winning press challenges. Diggs was pressed on 42 percent of routes run, enjoying just 2.5 yards of separation on average, yet his targets came with an air-yards average of 14.9. Most of his success was earned in single coverage, a testament to Adam Thielen's presence (despite Thielen's injuries) and a multi-level Vikings offense that didn't focus too heavily on Diggs." https://www.nfl.com/news/michael-thomas-tyler-lockett-among-10-best-pass-catchers-of-19 3 2 2
machine gun kelly Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 This is more impressive because of Thielen on the field.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Why can't Brown seamlessly assume the role Thielen played in forcing opposing D's to also shade coverage elsewhere besides Diggs? Similar opportunities should abound in our offense, imho. I read it here first, that Brown is every rich man's #2, our poor man's #1 last year. 1
MJS Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: This is more impressive because of Thielen on the field. I'm still wondering if Diggs will be better for John Brown's production (due to taking away double coverage and defensive focus, thus freeing him up more) or worse for Brown's production (due to Diggs taking targets away from Brown). Either way, it's good for the Bills. 2 1
Kwai San Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: This is more impressive because of Thielen on the field. As stated by MJS - JB and Cole should stand to gain.....also this tidbit you left out which should describe the Bills in 2020 - and a multi-level Vikings Bills offense that didn't won't have to focus too heavily on Diggs. All of that above makes me worried that Diggs will cry about enough touches tho......sigh.
LABILLBACKER Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, MJS said: I'm still wondering if Diggs will be better for John Brown's production (due to taking away double coverage and defensive focus, thus freeing him up more) or worse for Brown's production (due to Diggs taking targets away from Brown). Either way, it's good for the Bills. It will help both if Josh can adequately read defenses this year. Look off the safety and let it fly. I think Beasley will also benefit drastically.
Buffalo716 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: It will help both if Josh can adequately read defenses this year. Look off the safety and let it fly. I think Beasley will also benefit drastically. Josh improved dramatically reading zone defenses over these two years He struggles way more in tight press man coverage. And diggs should help because he has a guy who could beat one-on-one coverage Edited May 18, 2020 by Buffalo716 2
MJS Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh improved dramatically reading zone defenses over these two years He struggles way more in tight press man coverage. Annie diggs should help because he has a guy who could beat one-on-one coverage And win contested catches, something our receivers have absolutely sucked at for a long, long time. Allen will be more willing to throw up 50/50 balls and not feel like he needs to lead his receivers so much on deep balls. Seriously can't think of a single contested catch from our wide receivers last year except for one or two from Duke Williams. I think Knox had a couple, but he's a TE. Edited May 18, 2020 by MJS 1
MJS Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It is hard for smaller WRs to win contested catches for the bigger DB usually has leverage. Diggs isn't that big though. He's 6'0" and 194 pounds. And he's one of the best in the league at contested catches. I think the most important thing in catching contested passes is being able to high point the ball and get good position on the defender, but you are right, size does help a lot. And Diggs just has great hands. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MJS said: Diggs isn't that big though. He's 6'0" and 194 pounds. And he's one of the best in the league at contested catches. I think the most important thing in catching contested passes is being able to high point the ball and get good position on the defender, but you are right, size does help a lot. And Diggs just has great hands. he's insanely athletic. Like Sammy athletic, but with football focus and less crazy. as an aside watch clips of this Davis kid. He plucked a Josh pass lout of the air on a slant that looked 9 feet off the ground with out breaking stride. Imagine if both Diggs and Davis pass him on the chart? Edited May 18, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood
aristocrat Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 can't wait to watch this offense go this year. could be a lot of fun
NewEra Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, MJS said: Diggs isn't that big though. He's 6'0" and 194 pounds. And he's one of the best in the league at contested catches. I think the most important thing in catching contested passes is being able to high point the ball and get good position on the defender, but you are right, size does help a lot. And Diggs just has great hands. Great hands and equally as important, great body control in the air. cant wait to see this offense. Let’s hope the OL can give them holes and time
GunnerBill Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Why can't Brown seamlessly assume the role Thielen played in forcing opposing D's to also shade coverage elsewhere besides Diggs? Similar opportunities should abound in our offense, imho. I read it here first, that Brown is every rich man's #2, our poor man's #1 last year. That is not really what happened though. The coverage more often than not shaded to Diggs in Minnesota. The question is really does Brown make hay facing 1 on 1 more often?
Malazan Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 ..but obviously will be eclipsed by the receivers drafted this year that have a 70% (or more) failure rate of even staying in the NFL for 3 years
GoBills808 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That is not really what happened though. The coverage more often than not shaded to Diggs in Minnesota. The question is really does Brown make hay facing 1 on 1 more often? I think the real question is does he make hay facing CB2s and I think the answer is unequivocally yes 1
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, MJS said: I'm still wondering if Diggs will be better for John Brown's production (due to taking away double coverage and defensive focus, thus freeing him up more) or worse for Brown's production (due to Diggs taking targets away from Brown). Either way, it's good for the Bills. I think Brown will get more total yards in 2020, but fewer TDs. I think he will get a lot of opportunity but Diggs will be that clutch “go to” guy that Brown tried to be but wasn’t always able to make the play.
MJS Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think Brown will get more total yards in 2020, but fewer TDs. I think he will get a lot of opportunity but Diggs will be that clutch “go to” guy that Brown tried to be but wasn’t always able to make the play. I think Brown will have less production. Maybe not by much. Who knows? I imagine it turning out something like this for the top 3 WR's: Diggs- 1,200 yards, 9 TD's Brown- 900 yards, 7 TD's Beasley- 700 yards, 6 TD's
machine gun kelly Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: he's insanely athletic. Like Sammy athletic, but with football focus and less crazy. as an aside watch clips of this Davis kid. He plucked a Josh pass lout of the air on a slant that looked 9 feet off the ground with out breaking stride. Imagine if both Diggs and Davis pass him on the chart? Davis is a stud. I understand people don’t know him, but living in FL I watched most of his UCF games. He runs routes so well. He will be a good fourth WR. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Davis is a stud. I understand people don’t know him, but living in FL I watched most of his UCF games. He runs routes so well. He will be a good fourth WR. I want a 2! If brown is the third best WR it means this offense can do anything
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