Melissa Etheridge, David Crosby and Julie Cypher's son dies

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I still remember watching Weekend Update on SNL when they announced that David Crosby was the sperm donor.  I forget who was in the anchor chair, but he looks into the camera and says "They have heard of genetics, right?" 

[stuvian]

this doesn't sound good

[bbb]

2 hours ago, stuvian said:

this doesn't sound good

 

 

 

[Gugny]

I wish people in this country cared about addressing the opioid epidemic as much as it cares about Coronavirus.

 

RIP,  young man.

[DrDawkinstein]

Weird, my wife and I were just talking about that... donation, and their baby. Very sad news to hear this is how that story ends.

 

We'll keep them in our thoughts during our toddler's daily listen to Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. (btw, one of the greatest songs ever written? yes)

[Augie]

Horribly sad, but he is finally at peace. It’s a living hell when you are in the midst of opioid addiction. 

 

RIP

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4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

(btw, one of the greatest songs ever written? yes)

 

YES! 

[RaoulDuke79]

Terrible.....this a very tough patch for addicts and recovering addicts. 

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Terrible.....this a very tough patch for addicts and recovering addicts. 

As an introvert I can’t really relate, but have to assume the level of damage we are doing to those who desperately rely on other people is going to be incalculable.

[RaoulDuke79]

8 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

As an introvert I can’t really relate, but have to assume the level of damage we are doing to those who desperately rely on other people is going to be incalculable.

Mental health (addiction included), was and should be at the forefront of social initiatives. Unfortunately it's another casualty of the Corona virus. The ramifications of this thing will far outweigh the death toll of the virus IMO.

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Mental health (addiction included), was and should be at the forefront of social initiatives. Unfortunately it's another casualty of the Corona virus. The ramifications of this thing will far outweigh the death toll of the virus IMO.

Or make  people tougher:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8256573/Why-crisis-making-Snowflake-Generation.html

 

(I know it's  the Daily Mail... look past it.)

 

Look what the Great Depression did for  a generation 

[Bill from NYC]

6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Or make  people tougher:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8256573/Why-crisis-making-Snowflake-Generation.html

 

(I know it's  the Daily Mail... look past it.)

 

Look what the Great Depression did for  a generation 

I think that many folks will acquire PTSD from this. I hope I am wrong but I'm all but sure that millions of people will get cases of long lasting PTSD that weren't there before the virus.

Edited May 15, 2020 by Bill from NYC

[Back2Buff]

9 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Mental health (addiction included), was and should be at the forefront of social initiatives. Unfortunately it's another casualty of the Corona virus. The ramifications of this thing will far outweigh the death toll of the virus IMO.

 

That is just not true.  COVID has killed over 80k in a couple months here, you just won't see that with suicide.

 

There is also a lot of kids that were in school that were getting bullied getting a relief now.  There are gives and takes with everything.

 

 

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I think that many folks will acquire PTSD from this. I hope I am wrong but I'm all but sure that millions of people will get cases of long lasting PTSD that weren't there before the virus.

 

I think you are 100% correct.  I lost my job ~6 years ago (layoff) and it turned my entire life upside down.  Ruined me financially for years.  I've bounced back, but I am never comfortable.  I will never feel secure in a job again.  I'm not saying I have PTSD.  Just pointing out that this pandemic is going to alter a lot of lives.

 

Even people who've been able to collect unemployment (with the $600 weekly kicker) may be able to go back to jobs from which they've been furloughed, or find new employment when things open up.  But when the IRS wants their money come tax time, many are going to be in for a shock and find themselves going up against owing the government money.  It's not pretty.  Even with a payment plan, penalties continue to accrue.

 

This is going to affect a lot of people for a very long time in ways that are not physical-health related.  Sad times.

[Bill from NYC]

37 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think you are 100% correct.  I lost my job ~6 years ago (layoff) and it turned my entire life upside down.  Ruined me financially for years.  I've bounced back, but I am never comfortable.  I will never feel secure in a job again.  I'm not saying I have PTSD.  Just pointing out that this pandemic is going to alter a lot of lives.

 

Even people who've been able to collect unemployment (with the $600 weekly kicker) may be able to go back to jobs from which they've been furloughed, or find new employment when things open up.  But when the IRS wants their money come tax time, many are going to be in for a shock and find themselves going up against owing the government money.  It's not pretty.  Even with a payment plan, penalties continue to accrue.

 

This is going to affect a lot of people for a very long time in ways that are not physical-health related.  Sad times.

I am unqualified to diagnose you but that sounds like a valid reason to have PTSD. In my untrained opinion, events like yours (and certainly relationship issues like divorce) are likely to cause PTSD.

Our country is GREAT. Maybe this sounds banal but it is true. Many are in such great financial shape that they have been able to keep their families insulated from things that soldiers, cops, firefighters EMTs, nurses, etc. have had to witness day in and day out. Thankfully, most people go through life without losing a child. Life was a breeze for many and I am sincerely happy for them. I mean this too, but now; many of these same people are walking around wearing a mask and a loved one is either in a hospital fighting for life or dead. I feel for them too because this type of horror is new to just so many.

I somehow had a genius daughter who went to an Ivy. Once during the summer her friend called to speak to her. The kid is a billionaire, sweet girl too. She was upset because she was in love with a guy who is gay, and did not know what to do. My daughter stayed on the phone with her for hours. She consoled her and told her to move on. The girl was traumatized. It occurred to me that this nice, rich, pretty kid probably never had much to worry about, ever. To her, this was a major problem which probably gave her PTSD.

Now compare her issue to yours. Am I making sense?

So in any event, yes; I think that there will be great times ahead for psychologists. Millions of people will need one imo, or at least will benefit by seeing one.

Sorry to ramble.

Jmo.

Edited May 15, 2020 by Bill from NYC

[JohnC]

49 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think you are 100% correct.  I lost my job ~6 years ago (layoff) and it turned my entire life upside down.  Ruined me financially for years.  I've bounced back, but I am never comfortable.  I will never feel secure in a job again.  I'm not saying I have PTSD.  Just pointing out that this pandemic is going to alter a lot of lives.

 

Even people who've been able to collect unemployment (with the $600 weekly kicker) may be able to go back to jobs from which they've been furloughed, or find new employment when things open up.  But when the IRS wants their money come tax time, many are going to be in for a shock and find themselves going up against owing the government money.  It's not pretty.  Even with a payment plan, penalties continue to accrue.

 

This is going to affect a lot of people for a very long time in ways that are not physical-health related.  Sad times.

Your response to your loss of job is a very realistic and understandable response. Through no fault of your own many aspects of your life were upended. Not having a job impacts one not only economically but socially and also one's family relationships. It's like one day you go to your doctor for a regular checkup and learn that you have cancer. It's not surprising that one's response is why did this happen to me? What did I do to deserve this? 

 

The one thing that often happens when people face life altering cataclysmic events is that it has an affect on one's outlook on life. Sometimes it embitters people. And  sometimes dealing with hardships changes one's outlook on life making one more empathetic to other peoples struggles. 

[Bill from NYC]

23 minutes ago, JohnC said:

 

The one thing that often happens when people face life altering cataclysmic events is that it has an affect on one's outlook on life. Sometimes it embitters people. And  sometimes dealing with hardships changes one's outlook on life making one more empathetic to other peoples struggles. 

And sometimes both.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

And sometimes both.

 

I can say with certainty that it changed me in both ways.

[ExiledInIllinois]

11 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I think that many folks will acquire PTSD from this. I hope I am wrong but I'm all but sure that millions of people will get cases of long lasting PTSD that weren't there before the virus.

Would  you say the "Silent Generation" has PTSD too.  I would say yes! 

 

Yet.   The Great Depression, living through it at a young age allowed the trauma of the eventd to channel the PTSD in positive  ways... MORE positive  ways.

 

Just like now.  The ability to save money and hunker down  away from the trappings of rampant  consumerism. My inlaws are a classic  example.  NOT missing  a beat  during these lockdowns.   Same here.  Its how I was raised.  

 

So... Basically, what I am saying... Channel the so-called  "negatives" into positive.  Everything  in life can be PTSD.

Edited May 15, 2020 by ExiledInIllinois

[Bill from NYC]

13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Would  you say the "Silent Generation" has PTSD too.  I would say yes! 

 

Yet.   The Great Depression, living through it at a young age allowed the trauma of the eventd to channel the PTSD in positive  ways... MORE positive  ways.

 

To some people who have already experienced events which led to PTSD, this pandemic is just another trauma to face. The people in New Orleans standing on a roof with their children, watching coffins float by and waiting for a helicopter probably think that Katrina was worse than Covid19. 

 

As I said earlier, we have millions of people in America who never faced what I would consider truama, and this is a good thing. That said, seemingly lesser events can be very trying for them. Covid19 welcomed them to an ugly world that for instance correction officers face every day.

 

Yes, it's a good time to be a psychologist, or so I think.

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Bill from NYC