buffalojedwardo Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I know we have Roberts but why not let the guy compete back there? 1
Logic Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, buffalojedwardo said: I know we have Roberts but why not let the guy compete back there? I've been saying this since he got here. The odds of him truly contributing on offense enough to gain a roster spot for that reason seems incredibly low. As such, and given the skillset needed to be a successful rugby player, why has he never been given a shot as a returner? It seems like it would be VASTLY easier to learn than the entire offensive playbook, and it would give him a better chance of actually making the roster. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's not good at fielding kicks. Otherwise, it seems like a real waste to not let him try his hand as a returner. 3
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) We have one of the best, if not THE best KRs in the league. But let’s replace him with a guy that has barely even played football. I don’t understand why Bills fans, are always obsessed with these underdog stories. Like Duke Williams. The guy isn’t even going to make the team. We have awesome WRs now, but there will be 20 threads this offseason about a player that’s on the fringe of making the league. A guy like John Brown that had an incredible season last year...no talk. Duke Williams, hero. We have 2 young RBs that could easily be the strength of the offense going forward...nobody talks about them. Rugby player that might not even understand the rules of Football: savior. Now our all pro return guy needs to be replaced by him. Edited May 13, 2020 by Brianmoorman4jesus 35 1
ndirish1978 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Roberts is a Pro Bowl special teamer with experience whereas Wade has never played in a real game. 4 2
klos63 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 It would be difficult to have a roster spot used just for a kickoff returner. We had 32 returns last season. 2 per game isn't enough for 1 roster spot. Roberts returns punts and can play WR, plus he's an pro bowl caliber returner throughout his career, so his spot can be justified. 1
Augie Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: I've been saying this since he got here. The odds of him truly contributing on offense enough to gain a roster spot for that reason seems incredibly low. As such, and given the skillset needed to be a successful rugby player, why has he never been given a shot as a returner? It seems like it would be VASTLY easier to learn than the entire offensive playbook, and it would give him a better chance of actually making the roster. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's not good at fielding kicks. Otherwise, it seems like a real waste to not let him try his hand as a returner. I bet they give him a chance. I played rugby in college, and a back had better be competent fielding kicks, albeit with a bigger ball and different surroundings. My son forgot to call a fair catch once in high school. He held onto the ball, but I figured he’d learned his lesson. The next (and LAST) time he did it, I figured he had dain bramage from all those long headers in soccer! He’s much better now, he just loved contact! The kid got a free shot on him, my son was up first standing over him saying “a free shot and that’s all you got?” Hysterical! . Edited May 13, 2020 by Augie 4 2
Peace Frog Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 With a slew of talented receivers that could also be the return man, who knows if Andre Roberts even makes the team.
Rocky Landing Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Inadvertently, this thread will be trolling the trolls to come out and troll. 1
Rochesterfan Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Logic said: I've been saying this since he got here. The odds of him truly contributing on offense enough to gain a roster spot for that reason seems incredibly low. As such, and given the skillset needed to be a successful rugby player, why has he never been given a shot as a returner? It seems like it would be VASTLY easier to learn than the entire offensive playbook, and it would give him a better chance of actually making the roster. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's not good at fielding kicks. Otherwise, it seems like a real waste to not let him try his hand as a returner. Even if he can return kicks - there is no way he can do punts - so you would have to keep Roberts for Punts anyways. so you are logically proposing that we keep a second guy that can not really contribute on offense and keep him just as a Kick returner and a second guy (who made the pro bowl multiple times) as a punt returner only. No way. Wade still has an exempt spot - he either improves as a RB or he sits another year on the PS.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Now that is a great idea! catch ball and run don’t catch it and toss it to a ref before taking a knee. 1 1
MJS Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Even if he can return kicks - there is no way he can do punts - so you would have to keep Roberts for Punts anyways. so you are logically proposing that we keep a second guy that can not really contribute on offense and keep him just as a Kick returner and a second guy (who made the pro bowl multiple times) as a punt returner only. No way. Wade still has an exempt spot - he either improves as a RB or he sits another year on the PS. Let Wade compete for both. If he beats out Roberts on both, you give him the job. If he doesn't, you keep Roberts and Wade goes to the practice squad or is cut. Simple. I don't see why he could return kickoffs but not punts. Let the coaches decide what he can and can't do.
Augie Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Now that is a great idea! catch ball and run don’t catch it and toss it to a ref before taking a knee. Nothing wrong with that....as long as it was clearly his INTENT. 3 1
billsfan89 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Tracking a punt and fielding it is hard to do, esp for a player who hasn't been playing football for long. Roberts was an All-Pro at it and I never have to doubt his ability to field the ball. I would rather a guy not have any muffs and just make solid returns like Roberts over someone who might make more big plays but also is a liability to have a few muffs. Edited May 13, 2020 by billsfan89 1
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Tracking a punt and fielding it is hard to do, esp for a player who hasn't been playing football for long. Roberts was an All-Pro at it and I never have to doubt his ability to field the ball. I would rather a guy not have any muffs and just make solid returns like Roberts over someone who might make more big plays but also is a liability to have a few muffs. You mean like a McLovin? 1
The Firebaugh Kid Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 My buddy showed me a video of Wade jumping over a horse. I heard he trains with Mike Tyson too and he drinks deer blood for speed. 1
Logic Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Even if he can return kicks - there is no way he can do punts - so you would have to keep Roberts for Punts anyways. so you are logically proposing that we keep a second guy that can not really contribute on offense and keep him just as a Kick returner and a second guy (who made the pro bowl multiple times) as a punt returner only. No way. Wade still has an exempt spot - he either improves as a RB or he sits another year on the PS. Pardon my ignorance, but....WHY exactly is there "no way" he can return punts?
Buffalo716 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, MJS said: Let Wade compete for both. If he beats out Roberts on both, you give him the job. If he doesn't, you keep Roberts and Wade goes to the practice squad or is cut. Simple. I don't see why he could return kickoffs but not punts. Let the coaches decide what he can and can't do. Punt and kick returns are totally different. The blocking schemes and the way the ball comes off the foot Not too mention the time it takes the gunners to get down the field is way faster I did both and KR is 100x easier than punt returning, not even close. leodis mckelvin was one of the best punt returners in the league and he couldn't handle punt returning without putting it on the carpet It's tough
MJS Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Punt and kick returns are totally different. The blocking schemes and the way the ball comes off the foot Not too mention the time it takes the gunners to get down the field is way faster I did both and KR is 100x easier than punt returning, not even close. leodis mckelvin was one of the best punt returners in the league and he couldn't handle punt returning without putting it on the carpet It's tough Well yeah, of course it's tough. Doesn't mean he can't do it. He's a professional athlete.
Buffalo716 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, MJS said: Well yeah, of course it's tough. Doesn't mean he can't do it. He's a professional athlete. I'm not going to say he can't do it but the probability isn't high KR and the space involved actually may feel more like Rugby to him but PR will feel like a foreign object Dudes screaming down on you at 20mph and you need to catch it and make the first guy miss who is probably within 3-5 feet of you running 20 mph when you field it You honestly gotta be a bit nuts to do it in the NFL
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