Irv Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 I know "starting" doesn't mean that much in McD's rotational style. But I really don't think there is a "starter" or anyone that clearly beats out an incumbent, in the draft class. Do you?
Brennan Huff Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Not this year but next season I could see Gabriel Davis be a starter at WR. We got some big deals coming up and we’re going to have some tough decisions with some of these bigger contracts. I could see Beasley and/or Brown being let go to clear up space for Tre’s giant forthcoming contract... 1
maddenboy Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Mack. Watching his film study session from a post on this board, I see him as a professional running back. He just sets up blocks and sees everything. Like when he said he wants to know if the linebackers' toes are 5 yards back or 4-and-a-half. By week 6 or so I could see him with the Ones. Even though the league doesnt have many "starting" RBs, Mack will be taking first snaps. (I know its Zack Moss, buy my brain auto-corrects it to Mack. A better RB name anyway) Edited May 10, 2020 by maddenboy
MJS Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, maddenboy said: Mack. Watching his film study session from a post on this board, I see him as a professional running back. He just sets up blocks and sees everything. Like when he said he wants to know if the linebackers' toes are 5 yards back or 4-and-a-half. By week 6 or so I could see him with the Ones. Even though the league doesnt have many "starting" RBs, Mack will be taking first snaps. (I know its Zack Moss, buy my brain auto-corrects it to Mack. A better RB name anyway) Singletary has already proven that he is a professional running back and a difference maker at the position. I highly doubt that Moss will overtake him, especially considering McDermott likes to bring along rookies slowly. It took forever for Singletary to get significant snaps even though he was clearly more effective than Gore. 5
MrEpsYtown Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Epenesa for sure, and maybe he won’t actually “start” but he will get a starter’s percentage of the rotation. As others have said, Bass as well. 6
Logic Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 As you noted, due to the heavy rotational style employed by McDermott at almost every position, "starting" really only means taking the first snap of the game. As such, Moss will "start" at least one game before the season's over. Ditto AJ Epenesa. If Bass wins the job from Hauschka, he'll be the "starting" kicker, I suppose. 1
DisplacedBillsFan Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Bass has the best chance Seconded. We need a kicker who can make it from beyond 50. As long as Bass looks okay in camp (or what there is of one), he'll be the starter.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Logic said: As you noted, due to the heavy rotational style employed by McDermott at almost every position, "starting" really only means taking the first snap of the game. As such, Moss will "start" at least one game before the season's over. Ditto AJ Epenesa. If Bass wins the job from Hauschka, he'll be the "starting" kicker, I suppose. This is where I’m at. I think that Singletary will get about 70% of the snaps but that may be a little high. Epenesa will be in the regular DE rotation as well. Those 2 positions, along with DT, the Bills don’t really have starters and backups. They play a rotation. Those 2 players will be in the rotation. I believe that Bass wins the kicker job. As a little bit of an off-the-radar guess it’s possible (not likely) that Trey Adams wins the RT job. 1
Logic Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is where I’m at. I think that Singletary will get about 70% of the snaps but that may be a little high. Epenesa will be in the regular DE rotation as well. Those 2 positions, along with DT, the Bills don’t really have starters and backups. They play a rotation. Those 2 players will be in the rotation. I definitely think that Singletary gets the lion's share for the first half of the season, but after that, it won't surprise me if it starts to be closer to 50/50. A huge determining factor will be who can pass block the best, in my opinion. In any case, I can see Daboll using running backs the way Belichick does: the running back that is primarily "featured" in any given game is dependent on the opponent. So if, for instance, the opposing defense has small, fast flowing linebackers, they might feature Moss, figuring that he can pound the rock up the middle and bulldoze the smaller defenders. If the opposing defense has old school thumpers, the gameplan might be more Singletary-centric due to his elusiveness and outside running ability. I'm obviously super biased as a Bills fan, but I think Moss/Singletary has the opportunity to be the top duo (or at least one of the top two or three) in football for the next few years. 6 1
Kirby Jackson Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Logic said: I definitely think that Singletary gets the lion's share for the first half of the season, but after that, it won't surprise me if it starts to be closer to 50/50. A huge determining factor will be who can pass block the best, in my opinion. In any case, I can see Daboll using running backs the way Belichick does: the running back that is primarily "featured" in any given game is dependent on the opponent. So if, for instance, the opposing defense has small, fast flowing linebackers, they might feature Moss, figuring that he can pound the rock up the middle and bulldoze the smaller defenders. If the opposing defense has old school thumpers, the gameplan might be more Singletary-centric due to his elusiveness and outside running ability.I'm obviously super biased as a Bills fan, but I think Moss/Singletary has the opportunity to be the top duo (or at least one of the top two or three) in football for the next few years. 100% agree with you. I believe that Singletary could be (and will be) a star. He’s just so smooth. Moss is a great change of pace to him. He’s the hammer and has a physical, violent running style that will wear teams down. If you add Josh to that equation you have potential for a dynamic running game. 4
TigerJ Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 For Epenesa, I think it depends on what the Bills decide to do about Murphy. If the Bills have a chance to trade Murphy or cut him outright, I think Epenesa will probably start on the left side of the D-line over Quinton Jefferson while Mario Addison rotates in for Jerry Hughes.
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is where I’m at. I think that Singletary will get about 70% of the snaps but that may be a little high. Epenesa will be in the regular DE rotation as well. Those 2 positions, along with DT, the Bills don’t really have starters and backups. They play a rotation. Those 2 players will be in the rotation. I believe that Bass wins the kicker job. As a little bit of an off-the-radar guess it’s possible (not likely) that Trey Adams wins the RT job. I see things the same way. Adams has a lot of potential and a chance, if he has fully recovered from his back injury.
Lurker Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: As a little bit of an off-the-radar guess it’s possible (not likely) that Trey Adams wins the RT job. Radar? More like Hubble telescope...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: Radar? More like Hubble telescope... Definitely a long shot but a year ago he was going to be a top 20 pick. He has the ability, if healthy, to take that job. The “if healthy” part is tricky; he has had MAJOR injuries. I’d say that it is less than a 10% chance at this point but the odds are still higher than some of the other picks to start this year. 1
Lurker Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Definitely a long shot but a year ago he was going to be a top 20 pick. He has the ability, if healthy, to take that job. The “if healthy” part is tricky; he has had MAJOR injuries. I’d say that it is less than a 10% chance at this point but the odds are still higher than some of the other picks to start this year. Long as in looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog. As the saying goes, he's got a million dollar body and a ten cent head. Hard to fathom how any rookie makes headway in a disrupted training camp scenario (outside of Moss and Epenesa, who play two of the easiest positions to acclimate to). Especially if he's as immature as Adams appears to be. The good news, however, is that immaturity would likely insulate him on a practice squad, which is where I see him headed, assuming he's good enough to even make it that far...
Saxum Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 I think although many on the board will not like it that Bills will keep a kickoff specialist this year to develop bass and make decision next year whether to keep Stephen Hauschka. It is rare that a rookie kicker makes it as solo kicker in NFL. 1
Logic Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: Long as in looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog. As the saying goes, he's got a million dollar body and a ten cent head. Hard to fathom how any rookie makes headway in a disrupted training camp scenario (outside of Moss and Epenesa, who play two of the easiest positions to acclimate to). Especially if he's as immature as Adams appears to be. The good news, however, is that immaturity would likely insulate him on a practice squad, which is where I see him headed, assuming he's good enough to even make it that far... Im just curious: how do you know he has a “ten cent head”? Is it because you saw ONE answer he gave, jokingly? 2
foreboding Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, maddenboy said: Mack. Watching his film study session from a post on this board, I see him as a professional running back. He just sets up blocks and sees everything. Like when he said he wants to know if the linebackers' toes are 5 yards back or 4-and-a-half. By week 6 or so I could see him with the Ones. Even though the league doesnt have many "starting" RBs, Mack will be taking first snaps. (I know its Zack Moss, buy my brain auto-corrects it to Mack. A better RB name anyway) I think he is going to be good. Healthy Devin is going to be hard to get off the field though.
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