billsfan89 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark80 said: I mean, players have been doing this for years already. Not sure what drastic change you think is going to happen. Aaron Hernandez beat the NFL's weed testing, I doubt many players habits are going to change.
Ramza86 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 private planes. as long as the team is tested, not an issue
JetsFan20 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Posted May 7, 2020 What about the media members that don’t travel with teams?
DrDawkinstein Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Aaron Hernandez beat the NFL's weed testing, I doubt many players habits are going to change. Weed testing was more a stupidity test than a drug test. You had to be real dumb to get caught by the league. It was like a known 2 week window to stop during, and you'd avoid getting put into "the program". 1 hour ago, JetsFan20 said: What about the media members that don’t travel with teams? None of this matters. Once you have ANY travel, it's all the same. Doesnt matter if it is cross country or only to the next state over. And if a Jets fan on a Bills board thought of it, I promise you the folks at the NFL already thought of it months ago. Edited May 7, 2020 by DrDawkinstein
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: Do they really need the AFC East playing the AFC West and NFC West this year? Seems like the league should step in-easy fix. it is a louse draw.
billsfan89 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Weed testing was more a stupidity test than a drug test. You had to be real dumb to get caught by the league. It was like a known 2 week window to stop during, and you'd void getting put into "the program". The NFL's testing on weed was basically that you got a pee test for weed the first week of training camp. If you tested clean you didn't get tested until the next season. A heavy daily smoker like Hernandez just had to stop smoking 6 weeks before camp to pass the test then they would be allowed to smoke the rest of the year. It was basically an addiction test. 2
Matt_In_NH Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Send them all to an island where the only way to get on the island is to test positive 3 times, same with fans. not allowed off the island until the season is over. Have games all day on weekends, televised so the rest of us have somethign to do.
Mango Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, dneveu said: Well now they moved the testing window to a 2 week period, and there are no suspensions. If you pass during that 2 week period you have 50 weeks of no testing for weed. I think it can become an issue when bored players can't do anything else and just smoke all the time. Hell, it may have already become an issue for guys during social distancing. Just don't want your guys being fat and lazy - it's professional sports. Huh, this is a wild take.....I partake in the herb on occasion, worked from home pre-pandemic (so no change for me), and don't get tested for pot. It has literally never been an issue. Also from the pro-athlete perspective, I lived at the Olympic Training Center for a few years. Pot is only a banned substance in competition, so again, there are just a few weeks per year where you need to test clean. It was literally never an issue for anybody, and yes a very large portion of Olympians smoke, vape, eat edibles, etc. regularly during the year. This is the way it works for a huge portion of the population, professional athlete or not. I have experience in both. For example, Phelps was suspended from competition for 3 months by USA Swimming not FINA for "Code of Conduct Policy". Not for breaking any FINA, WADA, or USADA rules. Just don't have it end up on social media, ,and there is no rules broken or detriment to training. If it were some alternate on the US squash team there probably would not have even been a suspension. Then again, no 20 year old college kid would have taken that video and had it gone viral either. 1
Paup 1995MVP Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: What about the media members that don’t travel with teams? Why so many questions? Use some common sense. Don't worry so much. Why do you care about the media? They don't care about you. Tony Romo and Jim Nantz will drive to whatever game they are assigned if they have to. And so will Gus Johnson and Chris Spielman and Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. (Would love to be in a car with all 6) I am sure Roger Goodell and his arsenal of lieutenants will make sure everything goes off without a hitch. Worry about your family being safe, making a living and getting laid. That's what I think about whether there is a Corona Virus or not. Life is only as hard as you make brother. And what's with your user name? Are you Adam Gase in disguise? Or the ghost of Walt Michaels. Remember him?
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 What is the OP's issue? Planes are still flying. Put on your masks and gloves and get on the half empty plane. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The NFL's testing on weed was basically that you got a pee test for weed the first week of training camp. If you tested clean you didn't get tested until the next season. A heavy daily smoker like Hernandez just had to stop smoking 6 weeks before camp to pass the test then they would be allowed to smoke the rest of the year. It was basically an addiction test. Not even 6 weeks. I'm a daily consumer, been so for almost 20 years, and stopping for 2 weeks got me a completely clean pee test last year. And weed isnt physically addicting, it's just habitual. You can stop cold turkey without any issues. They knew when they would be tested. Hence why I call it a stupidity test.
Saxum Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: What? You somehow believe that being on an airplane for an extra hour is more dangerous than a flight to Miami? If this really about the pandemic, then the NFL should shut down the Jets and Giants. Just easier to have NJ teams play somewhere else.
ALLEN1QB Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Let's start a petition and buffalo play every game at home this year
billsfan89 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not even 6 weeks. I'm a daily consumer, been so for almost 20 years, and stopping for 2 weeks got me a completely clean pee test last year. And weed isnt physically addicting, it's just habitual. You can stop cold turkey without any issues. They knew when they would be tested. Hence why I call it a stupidity test. Weed is a mental addiction for some people its physical addiction is very low in most people if existent at all and you should be able to quit cold turkey without any physical problems or minor ones like irritability and haziness. I think the pee test is up to 6 weeks if you are a heavy daily user but yes you could beat it with just 2-3 week clean. If I were an NFL player I would do 6 weeks just to be safe as I have had friends who have failed pee test after not smoking for 30 days. Literally you stop smoking for 6 weeks and you can be good the other 46 weeks of the year.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: Weed is a mental addiction for some people its physical addiction is very low in most people if existent at all and you should be able to quit cold turkey without any physical problems or minor ones like irritability and haziness. I think the pee test is up to 6 weeks if you are a heavy daily user but yes you could beat it with just 2-3 week clean. If I were an NFL player I would do 6 weeks just to be safe as I have had friends who have failed pee test after not smoking for 30 days. Literally you stop smoking for 6 weeks and you can be good the other 46 weeks of the year. Yeah, we're agreeing. 2 weeks, 6 weeks, whatever. It's easy to stop, and there's no excuse for getting caught other than being dumb.
iinii Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, we're agreeing. 2 weeks, 6 weeks, whatever. It's easy to stop, and there's no excuse for getting caught other than being dumb. What’s dumb is treating it different than alcohol. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, iinii said: What’s dumb is treating it different than alcohol. Good news is, no more testing. IMO, alcohol should be even more restricted than weed since it is both addicting and deadly (where weed is neither). But that's a whole different thread. 1
Nextmanup Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 I still have no idea how the league is going to function as currently envisioned. I don't even know how training camps are going to work. I would think COVID 19 will spread through teams/the league rather quickly. I still say this season is not going to go down the way the NFL says it is, right now. Things will change.
billsfan89 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, iinii said: What’s dumb is treating it different than alcohol. Fully agreed, but in the circumstances NFL players found themselves in prior to them fully eliminating the testing now wasn't that hard to beat the test. You got test at one given point in the year and all you have to do is abstain for 6 weeks of the year to be free to smoke the rest of the year. Not exactly a hard thing to do. But I do think that it is better to just eliminate the test and ask players to be responsible like they are with alcohol. 1
iinii Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Fully agreed, but in the circumstances NFL players found themselves in prior to them fully eliminating the testing now wasn't that hard to beat the test. You got test at one given point in the year and all you have to do is abstain for 6 weeks of the year to be free to smoke the rest of the year. Not exactly a hard thing to do. But I do think that it is better to just eliminate the test and ask players to be responsible like they are with alcohol. I understood your point and agreed with it. A lot of posters would be amazed at the amount of weed that is smoked in the NFL. You are right you just have to take a little time off during the summer and not be an idiot during the season. 1
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