Rico Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Once again, no one should go up there before Butch Byrd. 1
Boatdrinks Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Next 2 possibles : A) Tre White B) JoshAllen. I don’t think anyone else from 90’s teams makes it. Aughts were mostly awful.
RyanC883 Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Can I throw Ruben Brown out there? His career was far superior to guys like Richter who are up there. Brown and Moulds should be.
Augie Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Rico said: Once again, no one should go up there before Butch Byrd. This is worth repeating. I don’t understand how he’s not up there already. Is there something not publicly known, or is this just an oversight? All time leader in receptions, and from my minor experiences, a great guy.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 3, 2020 Author Posted May 3, 2020 There are certainly a few guys up there, that weren’t as good as Bennet or Moulds. Times are different now and maybe the current ownership has a difference in opinion on a few guys but it’s hard to say. I’m not old enough to have seen Ferguson play in person but from all I have seen and read...it’s a bit of a stretch to have him up there. There’s no way he deserves it more then Moulds IMO. If Moulds played with Kelly, who knows what he could have been.
Rico Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Augie said: This is worth repeating. I don’t understand how he’s not up there already. Is there something not publicly known, or is this just an oversight? All time leader in receptions, and from my minor experiences, a great guy. He was a huge contributor to 2 Bills championship teams. A lot of other names in this thread did nothing but lose. Butch is 78 now, I'd like to see it happen soon. 3
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 3, 2020 Author Posted May 3, 2020 And also Edgerson over Byrd? Both guys are before my time but I have done a lot of research on Bills history to pay respect to the team I love. That seems off to me. Both could be up there but if it’s one or the other, should be Byrd right? 1
Augie Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Rico said: He was a huge contributor to 2 Bills championship teams. A lot of other names in this thread did nothing but lose. Butch is 78 now, I'd like to see it happen soon. I met him a number of times as he lived in our community and my sister used to babysit their kids. I remember going to their place to watch games on TV, and traded football cards with his son. I’ve told this here before, but he was at the door talking to my dad one day and I came out to show them the physics trick I learned as a 4th grader. If you squeeze a raw egg with equal pressure on all sides, it will not break. Apparently, my pressure was NOT equal, and I blasted Butch with a raw egg all over the suit he was wearing. OOPS! He didn't kill me, so HE BELONGS ON THE WALL! It should happen while he can appreciate it, for sure. Byrd had 40 INT’s in 98 games with 5 TD’s. Second place? Tony Greene with 37 INT in a whopping 128 games, with only 2 TD’s. Butch, then Kyle. Let’s not forget the past. . . Edited May 3, 2020 by Augie 5
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Schobel is so weird for me. I can’t ever remember thinking he was really that good but he was pretty solid. He’s like one of those guys that you almost didn’t realize was “good” until he stopped playing. Like to me, Hughes is probably better. It might not end up being remembered that way but I just never felt strong about Schobel. Maybe it’s just me. He has second most sacks all-time in Bills history. He had an injury riddled 2008 season in which he only had one sack, but the other eight years he averaged just under 10 sacks a year. All in all from what I remember he was really good, but his career was only 9 years long.
Happy Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Aaron Schobel and Kyle Williams. Both are deserving and spent their entire careers as Bills.
StHustle Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: @StHustle, speak your mind, brother! Not about to get into an OJ debate. But will make this one statement: You don't remove a guy who was found not guilty...period. Some even make great arguments that you don't remove players cause of what they do later in their lives regardless what it is. He was one of the greatest bills players ever and should remain. 4
Rico Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) I just went through the all-time Bills roster, here's my top 5 most worthy: 1. Butch Byrd 2. Cornelius Bennett 3. Tom Day 4. Reggie McKenzie 5. Tony Greene Other players: Jerry Butler Bob Chandler Steve Freeman Fred Jackson Frank Lewis Ron McDole Terrence McGee Brian Moorman Frank Reich Ted Washington Kyle Williams Edited May 3, 2020 by Rico 2
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 3, 2020 Author Posted May 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rico said: I just went through the all-time Bills roster, here's my top 5 most worthy: 1. Butch Byrd 2. Cornelius Bennett 3. Tom Day 4. Reggie McKenzie 5. Tony Greene Other players: Jerry Butler Bob Chandler Steve Freeman Fred Jackson Frank Lewis Ron McDole Terrence McGee Brian Moorman Frank Reich Ted Washington Kyle Williams No Moulds on either list? The guy is probably the most deserving guy not on the wall. After Reed, it’s Moulds and nobody is even close to those guys. 1
RiotAct Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, stuvian said: Kyle Williams is the most deserving he was my first thought as well.
Rico Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: No Moulds on either list? The guy is probably the most deserving guy not on the wall. After Reed, it’s Moulds and nobody is even close to those guys. Not after his actions his last year on the team, no.
machine gun kelly Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I really like Moulds, Kyle, but Bennett would get my vote. I’m ok if it doesn’t happen as that wall is only so big, and being an eternal optimist, the best is yet come. There will be more players wall worthy with a franchise on the move.
RochesterRob Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Augie said: This is worth repeating. I don’t understand how he’s not up there already. Is there something not publicly known, or is this just an oversight? All time leader in receptions, and from my minor experiences, a great guy. You kind of wonder with both Byrd and Bennett if there is something that the public does not know that precludes them from entry. Some guys are modest and maybe they asked not to be put up for the time being.
shane nelson Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 How Biscuit is not on the wall is beyond me. One of the best LB the Bills ever had. The year Bruce was hurt and Bennett was basically a rover was fun to watch 1
QB Bills Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Other than the Brady pick in New England, I can't remember one play Schobel ever made for the Bills. How he managed to get all those sacks yet still remain invisible is impressive. Also, he seemed permanently ornery.
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