GunnerBill Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I didn't say "The Texans" I said specifically, BILL O'BRIEN did not want him. Here is a picture of the Texans War Room when they made the pick....does that look like BOB wanted him....does it look like anyone there besides GM Rick Smith is happy about making the pick? Bill O'Brien is a wannabe Belichick. He doesn't do smiling. It isn't his style. You are using a picture of the war room, that isn't even the announcement... it is the bit before the Commish goes on stage and saying "forget what the enormously well respected Texans beat guy tells you, this photo proves otherwise." Yea. You are wrong.
Zerovoltz Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Bill O'Brien is a wannabe Belichick. He doesn't do smiling. It isn't his style. You are using a picture of the war room, that isn't even the announcement... it is the bit before the Commish goes on stage and saying "forget what the enormously well respected Texans beat guy tells you, this photo proves otherwise." Yea. You are wrong. https://www.espn975.com/bench-travis-johnson-says-obrien-didnt-want-deshaun-watson/ https://www.walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/Per-Sources,-Watson-Will-Seek-Market-Value
Chicken Boo Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Glad your not my GM....because I can. These are from from the best group in the NFL. Robinson had a great year but he’s far from a #1 WR. Wow. Tells me all I need to know.
Phil The Thrill Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Wow. Tells me all I need to know. He’s a fringe #1 like John Brown was last year. You disagree?
Chicken Boo Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: He’s a fringe #1 like John Brown was last year. You disagree? He had an 80 catch 1400 yard season with Blake Bortles. That's his ceiling. Robinson is only limited by the QBs he plays with. He has top 5 ability. John Brown will never be that. Even Diggs has yet to be that kind of receiver. 1
GunnerBill Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: https://www.espn975.com/bench-travis-johnson-says-obrien-didnt-want-deshaun-watson/ https://www.walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/Per-Sources,-Watson-Will-Seek-Market-Value Again.... I will stick with John McClain.
BuffaLoko Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 7:57 AM, Chicken Boo said: This doesn't make the decision, to not take a QB, any better. It was a mistake, I don't care how fans attempt to rationalize it. This is said in hindsight so your assessment looks better than the decision itself... Sir, let me know, did you state that same argument before or during 2017´s draft day ?
YoloinOhio Posted May 5, 2020 Author Posted May 5, 2020 22 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: But you are basing this purely on your own speculation. There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that Whaley is better at scoring that Beane, other than the fact that Whaley has experience in scouting. Experience alone doesn’t correlate to knowledge or success - ask Whaleys right hand man JIm Monos who was out of the league and selling cruises. Again, how do you explain the fact that Beane has been more successful than Whaley in the draft? We don’t know the involvement to which GM scouting which player. All that we know are the sections and the production on the field. To that extent, Beane has been much more successful than Whaley. Yikes. 1
Phil The Thrill Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: He had an 80 catch 1400 yard season with Blake Bortles. That's his ceiling. Robinson is only limited by the QBs he plays with. He has top 5 ability. John Brown will never be that. Even Diggs has yet to be that kind of receiver. I think you’re higher on Allen Robinson than the rest of the league is. 2
Chicken Boo Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 7 hours ago, BuffaLoko said: This is said in hindsight so your assessment looks better than the decision itself... Sir, let me know, did you state that same argument before or during 2017´s draft day ? I was 100% on drafting Watson. Hell, the board was split on Watson or Mahomes. NOBODY was clamoring for a DB.
MrEpsYtown Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I was 100% on drafting Watson. Hell, the board was split on Watson or Mahomes. NOBODY was clamoring for a DB. I’m willing to be a big boy and admit that I really liked Trubisky and Mahomes. I did not like Watson. But I thought the Bills were going to draft Marshon Lattimore.
JGMcD2 Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 4:43 PM, SoTier said: I think that the GMFB crew discussed what it takes to be a backup QB just last week in reference to Andy Dalton being released. Basically, successsful backup QBs -- Foles, Fitzpatrick, McKown etc -- are capable of checking their egos for the good of the team. A lot of failed QBs, especially first rounders, can't do that because having mucho self confidence is a pretty much a prereq for NFL QBs so they don't make it as backups. I think Trubisky's problem was that he didn't improve and even regressed when team's figured out his tendencies. I think I heard or read somewhere during last season that some of the Bears' coaching staff were concerned that he wasn't "getting it", which seems to suggest, at least to me, that he wasn't getting better at reading defenses or recognizing coverages etc. I think that after Brandon was fired, the Pegulas gave Beane the kind of control of the team that most GMs have -- nobody was hired to replace Brandon in regard to the Bills (don't know about the Sabres). He wasn't subservient to both Brandon and his money guys in the front office and subservient to the HC like Whaley. Beane's emergence as a strategist really began after the end of the 2018 season. Before that, he seemed to be scrambling to fill immediate holes and "make do" with very limited resources just as Whaley had done. Sharing a philosophy for the team with McDermott makes the relationship work even if McDermott is an equal. With a different HC it might not work so well. I would disagree that Beane didn’t emerge as a strategist until the end of 2018. He didn’t just randomly become one overnight... he’s always been one. When he got to Buffalo he began to make immediate strides towards the plan that we seeing come to fruition today.
Zerovoltz Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 3:08 AM, GunnerBill said: Again.... I will stick with John McClain. McClain has an article coraborating all this..but it's behind a paywall
GunnerBill Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: McClain has an article coraborating all this..but it's behind a paywall No he doesn't.
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