78thealltimegreat Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I’ve been going through the years and I can’t remember a qb who has literally been trashed more then this guy yet is somehow successful heck even Josh Rosen who is almost out the league has gotten better publicity...just strange Edited April 30, 2020 by 78thealltimegreat 3
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Yeah. EJM got crushed. Tyrod got crushed. Fitz got crushed. Trentative got crushed. Losman got crushed. I remember all of them. They all got trashed more than Josh. 11 1 1
MJS Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 If you play QB, you get trash thrown at you constantly. Doesn't even matter what team you play for. They all get trashed until they become elite, and even THEN you have detractors. 1
skibum Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah. EJM got crushed. Tyrod got crushed. Fitz got crushed. Trentative got crushed. Losman got crushed. I remember all of them. They all got trashed more than Josh. You forgot Peterman. 2
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, skibum said: You forgot Peterman. Oh yeah. No one EVER made fun of that guy. 3
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah. EJM got crushed. Tyrod got crushed. Fitz got crushed. Trentative got crushed. Losman got crushed. I remember all of them. They all got trashed more than Josh. I was going to say this .. every bills qb ever
LABILLBACKER Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Pundits and prognosticators predicted he would suck and be an accuracy train wreck. So far this "work in progress" is proving them wrong. 5
TwistofFate Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Pundits and prognosticators predicted he would suck and be an accuracy train wreck. So far this "work in progress" is proving them wrong. Not really. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/12/nfl-bills-josh-allen-stats-film-study/amp 1
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Not really. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/12/nfl-bills-josh-allen-stats-film-study/amp USA Today... 1
Hampton Josh fan Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 aWhy would anyone criticize a young QB after 2 years. The ideal situation is to sit a guy for a year and surround him with weapons and a decent o-line year 2. We got a playoff birth despite having a below average receiving Corp in year 2. The people that jump on JA17 are understandably skeptical because our management has given them names like Losman,Edwards, EJ.,Rob Johnson, Fitz etc. I'm a big fan of the kid, but he gives me more hope than anyone since Kelly. He has a big arm, great legs and the team respects his leadership. Sit back and enjoy the ride. . 3
Meatloaf63 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah. EJM got crushed. Tyrod got crushed. Fitz got crushed. Trentative got crushed. Losman got crushed. I remember all of them. They all got trashed more than Josh. Nope, nobody has had every play scrutinized as bad As Josh. They all got bashed, but this is a whole new level. 2 1
Augie Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) It seems to me a lot of people are actually encouraged by what Allen has shown so far as a pro. Cowherd, Schein, etc have been vocally positive about him. The whiners are.....just that. Does he have a way to go? Of course, but I am pleased with his progress and so are many others. EDIT: I’d be very curious to see where Josh Rosen is getting better publicity. This sounds like trying to make an argument by creating your own “facts”. . Edited May 1, 2020 by Augie 2 2 1
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Nope, nobody has had every play scrutinized as bad As Josh. They all got bashed, but this is a whole new level. Nah, all those other dudes got brutalized. They were walking punchlines. You are suffering from recency bias. 4 1
TwistofFate Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: USA Today... It doesn't change the facts and the data. 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Nah, all those other dudes got brutalized. They were walking punchlines. You are suffering from recency bias. Yea, back in the days of the old buffalo bills message board. It was the wild west and players and coaches alike were brutalized. Good times though, i miss that board. 1
billsfan89 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 People were legit saying Lamar Jackson will need to switch positions. 5 1
Meatloaf63 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Nah, all those other dudes got brutalized. They were walking punchlines. You are suffering from recency bias. Maybe, maybe not, seems everyone takes things to the extreme these days. Hard to prove it either way...
Nanker Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Than. First today, then tomorrow. I’d rather have catsup on my fries than mayonnaise. 2
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Most thought Allen was the poster child for prototypical bust that they saw in players like Jamarcus Russell and Blaine Gabbert. Big arm that wowed at the combine that didn't translate onto the field. They're just mad they were wrong up to this point. Daniel Jones is also a QB the media couldn't wait to see fail. Edited April 30, 2020 by Doc Brown 1
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Hampton Josh fan said: aWhy would anyone criticize a young QB after 2 years. The ideal situation is to sit a guy for a year and surround him with weapons and a decent o-line year 2. We got a playoff birth despite having a below average receiving Corp in year 2. The people that jump on JA17 are understandably skeptical because our management has given them names like Losman,Edwards, EJ.,Rob Johnson, Fitz etc. I'm a big fan of the kid, but he gives me more hope than anyone since Kelly. He has a big arm, great legs and the team respects his leadership. Sit back and enjoy the ride. . Don't forget Flutie. He was awesome when he played. But I get your point. I am in complete agreement with you on Josh Allen!! 1
Rc2catch Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Allen doesn’t catch anymore crap than previous quarterbacks. They all get beat up on here. As mentioned earlier Baltimore fans wanted Lamar ran out of town after playoff game 1 or switched to another position and boom the guy is mvp. Josh gets his fair share of fair and unfair criticism on here but it’s not worse than former quarterbacks since josh has a lot more support from fans so far. On here there’s always gonna be 5-6 trolls who hate him cause it messed up their mock and the wanted mayfield or Rosen or Darnold cause ya know they look so much better. Nationally the media basically goes off a stat page, and josh doesn’t always look good there throwing for 175- 270 yards and it’s not flashy like other quarterbacks 2
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