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Turns out that the obvious thing was obvious. Durham’s investigation shows that Barr was wrong about the origins of the Russia investigation. 
 

Barr Pressed Durham to Find Flaws in the Russia Investigation. It Didn’t Go Well.


Interviews by The Times with more than a dozen current and former officials have revealed an array of previously unreported episodes that show how the Durham inquiry became roiled by internal dissent and ethical disputes as it went unsuccessfully down one path after another even as Mr. Trump and Mr. Barr promoted a misleading narrative of its progress.


Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham never disclosed that their inquiry expanded in the fall of 2019, based on a tip from Italian officials, to include a criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings related to Mr. Trump. The specifics of the tip and how they handled the investigation remain unclear, but Mr. Durham brought no charges over it.

 

Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.

 

There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)”

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Flaws in Russia investigation?

 

I'll start.

 

FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith tampered with evidence by literally changing an email to say the opposite of what it originally said, in order to lie to a FISA judge and get a warrant to spy on Trump.

 

Discuss.

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2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Flaws in Russia investigation?

 

I'll start.

 

FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith tampered with evidence by literally changing an email to say the opposite of what it originally said, in order to lie to a FISA judge and get a warrant to spy on Trump.

 

Discuss.


Of course there were flaws. There are flaws in any investigation and the IG report covered the flaws in the Russia investigation. 
 

But what both the IG report and Durham show, the investigation itself was properly predicated and was not a conspiracy aimed at Trump. 

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10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

attention.png   This topic is OLD. A NEW topic should be started unless there is a very specific reason to revive this one.


Isn’t it cute when Bonnie plays these games? So triggered and insecure on so many levels. He never does it when his keeper revives old threads. Imagine that.


Bonnie, of course you don’t like the specific reason why this topic is revived - it just shows what gullible pathetic fools you are. 

 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


Isn’t it cute when Bonnie plays these games? So triggered and insecure on so many levels. He never does it when his keeper revives old threads. Imagine that.


Bonnie, of course you don’t like the specific reason why this topic is revived - it just shows what gullible pathetic fools you are. 

 

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It gets you to bite 100% of the time. 

 

#winning

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From the Times article 

 

There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)

 

 

They literally used Russian propaganda as evidence??? That's something Nazis do. Going after the Jewish guys aide. These people are sick  

 

 

Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.

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Corrupt. After Horowitz had cleared the Russia investigations opening, Durahn just lied about his own investigation 

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And the Justice Department sent reporters a statement from Mr. Durham that clashed with both Justice Department principles about not discussing ongoing investigations and his personal reputation as particularly tight-lipped. He said he disagreed with Mr. Horowitz’s conclusions about the Russia investigation’s origins, citing his own access to more information and “evidence collected to date.”

But as Mr. Durham’s inquiry proceeded, he never presented any evidence contradicting Mr. Horowitz’s factual findings about the basis on which F.B.I. officials opened the investigation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh this is just a beaut:

 

On one of Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham’s trips to Europe, according to people familiar with the matter, Italian officials — while denying any role in setting off the Russia investigation — unexpectedly offered a potentially explosive tip linking Mr. Trump to certain suspected financial crimes.

 

Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham decided that the tip was too serious and credible to ignore. But rather than assign it to another prosecutor, Mr. Barr had Mr. Durham investigate the matter himself — giving him criminal prosecution powers for the first time — even though the possible wrongdoing by Mr. Trump did not fall squarely within Mr. Durham’s assignment to scrutinize the origins of the Russia inquiry, the people said.

Mr. Durham never filed charges, and it remains unclear what level of an investigation it was, what steps he took, what he learned and whether anyone at the White House ever found out. The extraordinary fact that Mr. Durham opened a criminal investigation that included scrutinizing Mr. Trump has remained secret.

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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Corrupt. After Horowitz had cleared the Russia investigations opening, Durahn just lied about his own investigation 

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And the Justice Department sent reporters a statement from Mr. Durham that clashed with both Justice Department principles about not discussing ongoing investigations and his personal reputation as particularly tight-lipped. He said he disagreed with Mr. Horowitz’s conclusions about the Russia investigation’s origins, citing his own access to more information and “evidence collected to date.”

But as Mr. Durham’s inquiry proceeded, he never presented any evidence contradicting Mr. Horowitz’s factual findings about the basis on which F.B.I. officials opened the investigation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh this is just a beaut:

 

On one of Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham’s trips to Europe, according to people familiar with the matter, Italian officials — while denying any role in setting off the Russia investigation — unexpectedly offered a potentially explosive tip linking Mr. Trump to certain suspected financial crimes.

 

Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham decided that the tip was too serious and credible to ignore. But rather than assign it to another prosecutor, Mr. Barr had Mr. Durham investigate the matter himself — giving him criminal prosecution powers for the first time — even though the possible wrongdoing by Mr. Trump did not fall squarely within Mr. Durham’s assignment to scrutinize the origins of the Russia inquiry, the people said.

Mr. Durham never filed charges, and it remains unclear what level of an investigation it was, what steps he took, what he learned and whether anyone at the White House ever found out. The extraordinary fact that Mr. Durham opened a criminal investigation that included scrutinizing Mr. Trump has remained secret.


what a mess

 

 

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On 2/12/2022 at 1:49 PM, BillsFanNC said:

Ummm yeah.

 

On 2/12/2022 at 2:52 PM, B-Man said:
 

 

On 2/12/2022 at 7:00 PM, njbuff said:

As usual, Trump was right. 

 

On 2/13/2022 at 9:56 AM, Doc said:

This is what will end up being worse than Watergate.

 

On 2/13/2022 at 10:36 AM, JaCrispy said:

It already is...

 

Watergate was bad...this is 10 times worse, with all of the hoops that were jumped through to frame Trump...I’m not even a big Trump fan, but you gotta call a spade a spade...Otherwise, you’re just a partisan hack...👍

 

lolz - fn simps 👆

 

 

 

Weaponizing the DOJ, eh? 

 

 

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On 10/16/2022 at 1:37 PM, Brueggs said:

Who said I was Republican, or didn't read it?  

Your bias makes you unable to process information sufficiently and makes you extremely predictable.

What parts were verified?

 

DR must be feeling left out...

 

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32 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

 

lolz - fn simps 👆

 

 

 

Weaponizing the DOJ, eh? 

 

 

Billsy, what do you think of the Kincaid pick?

 

I’m on the football forum often and I never see you there…Are you actually a fan, or do you just use the website for politics?

 

It’s ok either way…just curious…👍

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Some strong runs in several threads of late.

 

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4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Billsy, what do you think of the Kincaid pick?

 

I’m on the football forum often and I never see you there…Are you actually a fan, or do you just use the website for politics?

 

It’s ok either way…just curious…👍

 

I don't know how I missed your gem!

 

Have you noticed how FAST you fall for these CONSIRPACIES?

 

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PS: Your last comment on that the football forum was Thursday at 09:00 PM; 9 minutes before my comment over there.

 

GO BILLS!

 

 

 

 

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