offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Would you pull this trade off if you were the Bills GM? John Brown for AJ Green AJ Green is not happy in Cincy and wants a new deal. He is a perennial pro bowler, (7 pro bowls). AJ Green has only played 4 full seasons out of 9. He probably would play 2 more years tops. Personally I think for the short term he would be amazing on the other side of Diggs, almost like what James Lofton was for Andre Reed. He is great with the intermediate and deep ball and has a knack for the end zone. John Brown's value has never been higher. He is coming off a great year with Buffalo and has 2 years remaining on his contract. He lacks size but is a very good route runner and came through in the clutch many times for us last year. John Brown has only played 2 full seasons out of 6. AJ Green (will be 32yrs old when the season begins) John Brown (will be 30yrs old when the season begins) 6'4 5'11 9 seasons 6 seasons 75 catches per season avg 48 catches per season avg 1,113 yards per season avg 715 yards per season avg 8 td's per season avg 5 td's per season avg 7 pro bowls 0 pro bowls 1 2 5
mikemac2001 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 John brown and josh Allen seemed to be on the same page so I say no way to this he was the only WR getting any separation last year and IDK if aj can bring that to the table 4
BringBackFergy Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 I’m tearing up a little. An AJ Green thread. I missed you!!!! 2 19
Gugny Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Can we trade Brian Dabolll for CeeLo Green, instead? 4 7
thenorthremembers Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) You're looking at statistics the wrong way. You shouldn't look at them over the player's entire career. You should be looking at them in a statistically relevant sample size, or in this case, the most recent years, and not just over a one year period which could give you anomalies. A good sample size is the last three years. In that case you'd end up with the following: That said why would you trade a younger player, for an older, more injured player who is less productive? Especially when the younger player just had his best career as a pro? Player Current Age GMS/YR Rec/YR Yrds/YR TD/YR Green 30 9 43 570 4 Brown 29 13 45 690 4 Edited April 28, 2020 by thenorthremembers 4 1
Mark80 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 You clearly haven't seen John Brown's touchdown dance. 2 4 1 1
SCBills Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 No. John Brown should be a monster this year with the opposing teams #2 on him, and knock on wood... he’s durable. Id rather have a big play guy we can count on opposite Diggs. 3
Billl Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: You're looking at statistics the wrong way. You shouldn't look at them over the player's entire career. You should be looking at them in a statistically relevant sample size, or in this case, the most recent years, and not just over a one year period which could give you anomalies. A good sample size is the last three years. In that case you'd end up with the following: That said why would you trade a younger player, for an older, more injured player who is less productive? Especially when the younger player just had his best career as a pro? Player Current Age GMS/YR Rec/YR Yrds/YR TD/YR Green 30 9 43 570 4 Brown 29 13 45 690 4 If there’s salary room, of course it would be a no-brainer trade. Green has been about equally productive while playing 12 fewer games and at about 60% physically. If he returns to full strength, he’s twice the player. If he doesn’t, he’s still at least equal. Edited April 28, 2020 by Billl 2
ClovisBillsFan Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 How about no! Chemistry a true #1 on other side. Not to mention $ and impact on signing key core players in future.
whatdrought Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Maybe if they throw in a second. But even then, I don’t see a need. Diggs and Brown are a sexy compliment to me because the both are 3 level threats whose speed has to be accounted for. You can’t play single high against them on the outside. We wanted that to happen with Foster and Brown on the outside, but Foster laid an egg. We know we’re getting it with Brown and Diggs. 2
JoPoy88 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 I would not do that trade, primarily because of Green’s injury issues recently. That, and Brown seems to be trending up the last two seasons. Peak AJ Green is a better player for sure. But I don’t think peak AJ exists anymore. 1
gjv001 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Absolutely not. Especially this season where continuity is at a premium.
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Josh himself said last season that he wouldn't trade Smoke for anything. So no. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/11/bills-josh-allen-wouldnt-trade-john-brown-for-anything-he-is-an-all-time-teammate.html Edited April 28, 2020 by BillsFanForever19 2
Malazan Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Billl said: If there’s salary room, of course it would be a no-brainer trade. Green has been about equally productive while playing 12 fewer games and at about 60% physically. If he returns to full strength, he’s twice the player. If he doesn’t, he’s still at least equal. the statistics on whether he returns to full strength or plays in all of those games where he is not helping you at all is 0 divided by zero
ClovisBillsFan Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Continuity is king. One of the reasons the Bills are viewed as on the rise. Limited coaching and key position turnover. A known entity brought in with Diggs, vs rookie WR while very talented may take some additional development time.
Brennan Huff Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Which brings me to my next point, don’t smoke crack.. 1 1
thenorthremembers Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Billl said: If there’s salary room, of course it would be a no-brainer trade. Green has been about equally productive while playing 12 fewer games and at about 60% physically. If he returns to full strength, he’s twice the player. If he doesn’t, he’s still at least equal. The best decisions are made by taking the scenario that has fewer "what ifs." For me its a no brainer to keep Brown.
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