Buffalo716 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Well we all have different definitions of elite. In my view elite is the top 3-5 guys at a position. Top 20 is good. If your saying he is top 3-5 in the league why has he had only 2 1000 yard seasons? Never caught 10+ TD's? On his career thus far he averages about 5 rec for 65 yds and under .5 TD per game. Very good but not elite...yet. I mean he has been in a run heavy offense that features 2 top 15 WRs. There is only so much to go around And he is absolutely better than Theilein , he opened up so much for him Diggs route running, hands and game speed are all elite. He has had seasons of 100 catches and 18 ypc He can be a possession receiver or a deep threat. He is absolutely a top 10 guy pushing top 5 with another tremendous season or 2
ngbills Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean he has been in a run heavy offense that features 2 top 15 WRs. There is only so much to go around And he is absolutely better than Theilein , he opened up so much for him Diggs route running, hands and game speed are all elite. He has had seasons of 100 catches and 18 ypc He can be a possession receiver or a deep threat. He is absolutely a top 10 guy pushing top 5 with another tremendous season or 2 I was going to say in my post - I know he was in a run heavy offense (though he received 149 targets one year) and had a Thielen. But he will have Brown in BUF. And I dont think you can say if this he would have done that. Does not work that way. You could do that exercise for many players in the league. Fact check - he has only caught for 100 rec in one season not seasons Fact check again - he had a 17.9 ypc once. It has been 10-13 in all other years. Again, I think he is really good. Hopefully even better with the Bills. Just not on elite status yet until he proves it. He is what the Bills needed a very good #1 WR. But we did not just get the most elite WR in the game.
Buffalo716 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ngbills said: I was going to say in my post - I know he was in a run heavy offense (though he received 149 targets one year) and had a Thielen. But he will have Brown in BUF. And I dont think you can say if this he would have done that. Does not work that way. You could do that exercise for many players in the league. Fact check - he has only caught for 100 rec in one season not seasons Fact check again - he had a 17.9 ypc once. It has been 10-13 in all other years. Again, I think he is really good. Hopefully even better with the Bills. Just not on elite status yet until he proves it. He is what the Bills needed a very good #1 WR. But we did not just get the most elite WR in the game. So players can't ascend? he is in his prime and his best seasons were the last 2 years where he showed he can be elite possession receiver or vertical threat He isn't a one trick pony and by every measure is a top 3 route runner in the league Edited April 30, 2020 by Buffalo716
ngbills Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: So players can't ascend? he is in his prime and his best seasons were the last 2 years where he showed he can be elite possession receiver or vertical threat He isn't a one trick pony and by every measure is a top 3 route runner in the league Exactly my point - he needs to ascend. He may ascend to elite status but not yet though many are referring to him as if he is.
Buffalo716 Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Exactly my point - he needs to ascend. He may ascend to elite status but not yet though many are referring to him as if he is. He's an elite route runner
ehfeuh57 Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 11:10 AM, MrEpsYtown said: I don’t get the Phillips love. I’ve seen it a bunch on here. Butler or Star will start with Oliver. Whoever doesn’t will get the other side of an almost 50-50 split. Phillips has accomplished nothing, looked small and overmatch, and is coming off a serious injury. I get that Phillips looks like Kyle and is all Bills Mafia and stuff, but they did not sign Butler to be a third string depth player. That’s Harrison Phillips. Edit: And I really like Phillips and would not count him out, but penciling him in as a starter at the 1 tech on a team with Butler and Star, and coming off a major injury just makes no sense. Now do Star
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