Einstein's Dog Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Why is this pick so difficult for so man to understand. He's not done, but he's pretty close. Why not draft his replacement now? Isn't that the smarter way to do it? The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. 2
eball Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Done? No. Has the countdown now started? Yep. I think he might regret running Mike McCarthy out of town because McCarthy was willing to run a Rodgers centric offense. That isn't how LeFleur rolls. It is going to be the stretch zone and Rodgers is going to be judged by how well he executes the system rather than by how many plays he makes when things break down. At times last year when the system wasn't functioning you could see Rodgers's frustration mounting. Green Bay will win more games with LeFleur as they did last season, and Rodgers still played "well" but he is now just a piece of the puzzle rather than the engine that made the offense go. I agree with all of this and it begs the question whether it is advisable to relegate a no-doubt future HOF QB to that sort of role when he still has a lot of ability. This is a "win now" league, after all. Sure, GB won more games last year but didn't many see them as a paper tiger when the playoffs rolled around? 2
Lurker Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 IMO, he's got at least two more years there, simply based on the immovability of his contract...
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, eball said: I agree with all of this and it begs the question whether it is advisable to relegate a no-doubt future HOF QB to that sort of role when he still has a lot of ability. This is a "win now" league, after all. Sure, GB won more games last year but didn't many see them as a paper tiger when the playoffs rolled around? Yea they are certainly a contender to take a step back in 2020. Their schedule is tougher but not impossible. Having the Bears and the Lions in the division helps. The Vikings are the best team in the NFC North though for my money.
Doc Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. Getting a WR in FA would have been a better route. A draft pick can/will take time to develop, time Rodgers doesn't have. But all they signed was Devin Funchess and 36 year old Marcedes Lewis. 1
Don Otreply Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 This question is a fan/ media thing, he isn’t going anywhere.
Rochesterfan Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. Yes and they were heavily criticized in 2005 for drafting Rodgers with Favre still under contract. Looking at 2005 draft grades - lots of C-, D’s, and even Fs, but when you look 5 years out - that draft in 2005 is now all A’s and one of the best drafts of the year. Did it hurt GB in the short term - maybe, but Rodgers won them a Super Bowl and has made them relevant for over an additional 10 years. This pick is no different - if Love works out they are brilliant and if he fails - they still have time to find another QB before Rodgers retires. The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. 3
Chicken Boo Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 He's still playing at a very high level, so no. *Ted Thompson is the reason he doesn't have more rings. It all began with letting Greg Jennings get away.
eball Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. It is far from an "absolute" scenario. This is a "win now" league...and the situation under which Rodgers was still available in 2005 when the Packers drafted is much different than what transpired last week. The Packers have holes -- particularly in the "playmaker" category -- and ignored them to draft a project QB. It seems LaFleur is proving to be yet another power freak who will do it "his way" even though he has a HOF QB on his roster and a window to compete for Super Bowls. When you plan for 3-4 years ahead in this league at the expense of doing what you can to win now -- particularly with a guy like Rodgers behind center -- it's not a particularly smart move. Now, if LaFleur and the GM have analyzed their roster and don't think they could do enough with Rodgers to truly compete in 2020? That's something completely different. If Love turns out to be really good in 3-4 years people will look back and say how great it was for GB to take a chance on him...but if they've pissed away a shot at a SB title this year or next because of it I don't think you can say it was necessarily the right decision.
Wayne Arnold Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 I won't weep for Aaron Rodgers. One of the biggest douche bags in sports. 2 2
WhoTom Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? 2
Prickly Pete Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 I can't stand Rodgers, and have no interest in seeing the Packers succeed, so I hope he becomes a pain in the ass for all involved, and the team sucks for decades like the Bills did. 1
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: I don't know whos draft was dumber, Green Bay's or Philly's.....what were they possibly thinking? I hope Rodgers forces his way out. They drafted RB, TE and three offensive linemen. And they have Favante Adam's who caught 83 balls for just under 1000 yards in 12 games. Maybe they were thinking there are other ways to help Aaron. 2
keepthefaith Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, gjv001 said: I don't understand why GB's management hasn't upgraded their WR corp. Can you imagine all the contortions our local sports media would go through if the Bills management did not improve the Bills WR corp. Their opening day roster is not yet finalized.
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 He’s not done. It’s worth noting a couple things though on Rodgers. He’s a different guy than Brady. He may have thrown hints of retirement out there. The other thing is he has a propensity to get hurt and when he does they haven’t been able to adequately replace him. If they like Jordan love enough to give him a 1st rd grade they have him under control now for 5 years. It may piss off Aaron but it’s not personal, it’s business. im more surprised that the Steelers didn’t address the position more. 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: im more surprised that the Steelers didn’t address the position more. That thills me. I hate Schittsburgh and their inbred fanbase. I'd love to see that franchise wither. 1 1
soflabillsfan1 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Terrible move. No reason to draft Love this year. Farve fell off a cliff the year they drafted Rogers. I don't see Rogers doing that for at least 3-4 years. Grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th every year and see if you can develop someone. Grabbing a backup Qb after you just went 13-3, insane.
Saxum Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: Yes and they were heavily criticized in 2005 for drafting Rodgers with Favre still under contract. Looking at 2005 draft grades - lots of C-, D’s, and even Fs, but when you look 5 years out - that draft in 2005 is now all A’s and one of the best drafts of the year. Did it hurt GB in the short term - maybe, but Rodgers won them a Super Bowl and has made them relevant for over an additional 10 years. This pick is no different - if Love works out they are brilliant and if he fails - they still have time to find another QB before Rodgers retires. The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. Taking a QB yes but they needed more WR support in Green Bay.
ProcessAccepted Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, stuvian said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/27/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-jordan-love
Doc Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Terrible move. No reason to draft Love this year. Farve fell off a cliff the year they drafted Rogers. I don't see Rogers doing that for at least 3-4 years. Grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th every year and see if you can develop someone. Grabbing a backup Qb after you just went 13-3, insane. Favre had a really good season in 2004, and IMHO better than his 2003 season when he made the Pro Bowl.
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