BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MJS said: I also feel it isn't relevant to refer to what he did with Matt Cassel and a loaded roster 13 years ago, but that seems to come up a lot. They didn’t even make the playoffs with that roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, mjt328 said: I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team. If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock. Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season). Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't. Who is scared of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Wow, a team goes down after...a FB retires? What's the status of their long snapper though? Ans what happens when they retire their fax machines and cordless phones?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, notwoz said: In 2008, Belichick coached a team led by Matt Cassel to a 10-5 record when Brady went down with a knee injury. That includes two wins over the Bills. During Brady’s four-game Deflategate suspension in 2016, Belichick got three wins out of a combination of Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett. I wouldn't underestimate Belichick. And his first year in NE without Brady he went 5-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Danny Vitale gonna blow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) And I actually am in the minority that I think Stidham will be okay. Not great, maybe like Matt Moore with the Panthers good. Edited April 28, 2020 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Trying to be as objective as possible, are the Patriots stronger than the Bills at any position group? Bills definitely stronger at: QB, RB, WR, TE, DL, LB Bills probably better at: OL Think Bills are better but closest: DB Maybe punter? Yes they have the best coach. Pats go 3-3 in division, 1-3 vs. NFC west, 2-2 at best vs. AFC West, lose to Ravens, flip a coin vs. Texans, that's 7-9 or 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: They didn’t even make the playoffs with that roster Technically they didn't, but that doesn't usually happen with 11 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, chris heff said: And his first year in NE without Brady he went 5-11. I think he went 5-11 back to back years before Brady got the start 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: And I actually am in the minority that I think Stidham will be okay. Not great, maybe like Matt Moore with the Panthers good. Matt Moore was a great back up that’s as far as it got for him. He got benched multiple times back in Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Good, another POS Cheater bites the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just think of all the COMP picks they will get next season!!!! they will get 2 for Brady and Gronk alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 4:45 PM, RobbRiddick said: I'd honestly be surprised if Belichick signs a 'known'' QB. I think he's going to be so motivated to do well this season with this roster so he can show what a genius he is, that he can do it without Brady and a roster people are writing off. At this point Brady and Belichick are like two songwriting partners who have had a bunch of hits but each one feels the other guy unfairly gets too much of the credit. Simon & Garfunkel, which one is which Bill = Paul and Tom =Art ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) On 4/27/2020 at 3:47 PM, CorkScrewHill said: James Devlin FB retires. He was a very good blocker for them. Sorry that he is hurt, but glad that he creates a hole for the Patsies. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111928/article/roundup-patriots-fb-james-devlin-retiring-from-nfl Will New England let him unretire if he wants to play for the T*m Br*dy Buccaneers? On 4/27/2020 at 4:07 PM, mjt328 said: I honestly don't know why ANYONE is scared of this team. If anybody else was going into camp with Brian Hoyer and Jarrett Stidham at the top of their QB depth chart, they would be a laughing stock. Not to mention, they have done absolutely nothing to upgrade their offensive skill positions (which were pretty bad last season). Because it's Bill Belichick, everyone assumes he just knows something everyone else doesn't. He knows they are tanking? Edited April 28, 2020 by Limeaid typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 4:45 PM, RobbRiddick said: I'd honestly be surprised if Belichick signs a 'known'' QB. I think he's going to be so motivated to do well this season with this roster so he can show what a genius he is, that he can do it without Brady and a roster people are writing off. At this point Brady and Belichick are like two songwriting partners who have had a bunch of hits but each one feels the other guy unfairly gets too much of the credit. When one starts talking about cheating and US says enough with NFL coverups. IRS digs in and press charges on unreported money. On 4/27/2020 at 7:04 PM, MJS said: Not expecting them to really suck or anything, but I just don't think it's possible for them to not take at least a modest step back. If they win double digit games this year, we'll all have to admit yet again what a great cheater Bill Belichick is. Corrected. Some still will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On April 27, 2020 at 7:46 PM, Mr. WEO said: Wow, a team goes down after...a FB retires? What's the status of their long snapper though? Ans what happens when they retire their fax machines and cordless phones?? Re-read the title and you'll see little need to be defensive about your team. OP simply said a little weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 People forget they were 16-0 the year before the “Bellicheck is a genius” year with Matt Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 6:12 PM, MJS said: I also feel it isn't relevant to refer to what he did with Matt Cassel and a loaded roster 13 years ago, but that seems to come up a lot. The people wanting to declare the Patriots dead need to get on the same page. Some keep talking about how bad he is at drafting. Others want to say that the only reason he won so many games with Cassel is because of the incredible roster he built. He built the roster that was good enough to win 11 games with a backup QB. Everyone has been asking what QB he plans to draft or sign that could make them a good team. Nobody is considering that BB might believe in Stidham. He’s had 2 years to prepare for this eventuality. Nothing he’s done would lead me to believe he’s hell bent on overhauling the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: People forget they were 16-0 the year before the “Bellicheck is a genius” year with Matt Cassel. So he’s not a genius because he build a dominant roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Billl said: The people wanting to declare the Patriots dead need to get on the same page. Some keep talking about how bad he is at drafting. Others want to say that the only reason he won so many games with Cassel is because of the incredible roster he built. He built the roster that was good enough to win 11 games with a backup QB. Everyone has been asking what QB he plans to draft or sign that could make them a good team. Nobody is considering that BB might believe in Stidham. He’s had 2 years to prepare for this eventuality. Nothing he’s done would lead me to believe he’s hell bent on overhauling the QB position. Why do people need to be on the same page? Why can't they have their own opinions? My opinion is that BB is the best coach ever. Hest a good GM, but nothing special. He doesn't draft better than anyone or sign free agents better than anyone. He is great at trading, though. The current pats team is significantly weaker than probably any team he's had, in my opinion. Even with Brady I think they would struggle to get to double digit wins, and without Brady I don't think they will. I don't care how good Stidham is, hest not going to be as good as even 42 year old Brady. I'm looking forward to facing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The Patriots are doing a one year tank. Getting thier qb next year them they will be pissing me off for another 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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