Orlando Buffalo Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 The comment about " expecting to win" is weird to hear but true. That team does not give up 16 point leads to anyone. I expect this year to win playoff games and to learn from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Virgil said: For those that don't know me, I've been a Bills fan for over 25 years. I write a post game summary that I inherited from @BillfromNYC (who can have it back whenever he wants), I help do the mock drafts, not-so-secret @Gugny man-crush, and I absolutely lost my ***** when the Bills lost to the Texans. I mean, absolutely lost in with more anger than I can ever remember having about this team. I even got myself banned for posting while angry, even though I still don't agree with the logic. At the time, and moreso until the draft, I couldn't understand why that loss affected me so much. I know that I suffer from chronic BBFS, but this was different. I was here for the multiple 5-2 starts where the playoffs were a statistically strong probability. When, even though we weren't a strong team, you had to make it in from 5-2, right? Or all the Primetime games where we are up with only minutes left and it would require a turnover or a magical play to lose; we found a way in the most Billsy way possible As the draft went on, I had players that I wanted to see us add. I thought Dobbins was going to be a great value in the 2nd, but AJ was an even better value. Also, Beane is the GM and has absolutely earned my trust and respect. If he thinks AJ and Moss are the guys, then so be it. I loved the Fromm pick and overall was more relaxed than previous drafts. I was the guy who lost his ***** when Allen was draft (so happy to be wrong and I can't imagine anyone else as our QB), the McKelvin pick ruined a vacation I was on, and Spiller made me question life. Again, all for context. In any case, the conclusion I've come to realize is... We've arrived. We are a real, competitive team with a strong roster, good coach, good gm, and an owner who isn't going anywhere. I got so upset in the Bills/Texans game because I EXPECTED us to win. That's a big deal over the past 20 years. We are so used to being happy with whatever we can get, the "happy to have a team in Buffalo and just be here" mentality. But after 3 years of solid drafts, Primetime wins, locking up the playoffs with weeks left, and overall having a roster that is as good on paper as it is on the field...it's finally different. I expect us to win the division. I expect Allen to take another step forward. I expect a home playoff game. I expect us to be competitive in every game. I expect, if we lose, to be pissed because we were the better team and capable of winning. As for the draft and my calmness, it's because I don't think we even needed this draft. If we didn't have a single pick, my opinion about this upcoming season wouldn't change. I'm not worried about what our divisional foes did. I don't expect any of our draft guys to push us over the hump because we are already there. All of these players are going to get limited playing time and if they suck, we will be fine. They can only make us better. I mean, when was the last time that's happened? It really is a New Era for the Bills. The questions are gone for me. The Bills have arrived and I think we are going to be here for a long time to come. We have the cap management, off-season strategy, coaching, culture, and talent to fill out one of the strongest foundations I've seen in a long time. Embrace it, enjoy it. Welcome to the New Era I had a very similar anger rise up the moment the Bills lost. I walked to the sink, washed some dishes and it was gone. It turns out as men we don't know how to handle disappointment. Regret on the other hand is useful, it allows us to think through what we did wrong so we can change it and act differently in the future. But disappointment is different, because by definition there's nothing we could have controlled to make the outcome different. So if you think about it, there's nothing useful to hanging on to anger or ruminating about disappointment because there is nothing you can do about it... Also, you are not defined by the Bills. Your worth and value is not dependent on their success in any way. You have the same inherent value as a human being as anyone else, so there's no reason to question life or ruin vacations if your disappointed by the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I had a very similar anger rise up the moment the Bills lost. I walked to the sink, washed some dishes and it was gone. It turns out as men we don't know how to handle disappointment. Regret on the other hand is useful, it allows us to think through what we did wrong so we can change it and act differently in the future. But disappointment is different, because by definition there's nothing we could have controlled to make the outcome different. So if you think about it, there's nothing useful to hanging on to anger or ruminating about disappointment because there is nothing you can do about it... Also, you are not defined by the Bills. Your worth and value is not dependent on their success in any way. You have the same inherent value as a human being as anyone else, so there's no reason to question life or ruin vacations if your disappointed by the Bills. You overestimate my worth ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I absolutely lost my ***** when the Bills lost to the Texans. I mean, absolutely lost in with more anger than I can ever remember having about this team. I even got myself banned for posting while angry, even though I still don't agree with the logic. I love how a key part of your bio is how you got banned!! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I love how a key part of your bio is how you got banned!! ? Hey, I’ll own it all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 6:09 PM, Playoffs? said: Agree with just about everything above except for the comment about Brown and Beasley not getting separation. I think both are fantastic route runners, and Brown’s speed helps easily create separation. I love our receiving corps, but what we’re missing is the big possession guy that catches everything you throw him (dare I say the upgraded version of Duke?) 1 hour ago, Virgil said: For those that don't know me, I've been a Bills fan for over 25 years. I write a post game summary that I inherited from @BillfromNYC (who can have it back whenever he wants), I help do the mock drafts, not-so-secret @Gugny man-crush, and I absolutely lost my ***** when the Bills lost to the Texans. I mean, absolutely lost in with more anger than I can ever remember having about this team. I even got myself banned for posting while angry, even though I still don't agree with the logic. At the time, and moreso until the draft, I couldn't understand why that loss affected me so much. I know that I suffer from chronic BBFS, but this was different. I was here for the multiple 5-2 starts where the playoffs were a statistically strong probability. When, even though we weren't a strong team, you had to make it in from 5-2, right? Or all the Primetime games where we are up with only minutes left and it would require a turnover or a magical play to lose; we found a way in the most Billsy way possible As the draft went on, I had players that I wanted to see us add. I thought Dobbins was going to be a great value in the 2nd, but AJ was an even better value. Also, Beane is the GM and has absolutely earned my trust and respect. If he thinks AJ and Moss are the guys, then so be it. I loved the Fromm pick and overall was more relaxed than previous drafts. I was the guy who lost his ***** when Allen was draft (so happy to be wrong and I can't imagine anyone else as our QB), the McKelvin pick ruined a vacation I was on, and Spiller made me question life. Again, all for context. In any case, the conclusion I've come to realize is... We've arrived. We are a real, competitive team with a strong roster, good coach, good gm, and an owner who isn't going anywhere. I got so upset in the Bills/Texans game because I EXPECTED us to win. That's a big deal over the past 20 years. We are so used to being happy with whatever we can get, the "happy to have a team in Buffalo and just be here" mentality. But after 3 years of solid drafts, Primetime wins, locking up the playoffs with weeks left, and overall having a roster that is as good on paper as it is on the field...it's finally different. I expect us to win the division. I expect Allen to take another step forward. I expect a home playoff game. I expect us to be competitive in every game. I expect, if we lose, to be pissed because we were the better team and capable of winning. As for the draft and my calmness, it's because I don't think we even needed this draft. If we didn't have a single pick, my opinion about this upcoming season wouldn't change. I'm not worried about what our divisional foes did. I don't expect any of our draft guys to push us over the hump because we are already there. All of these players are going to get limited playing time and if they suck, we will be fine. They can only make us better. I mean, when was the last time that's happened? It really is a New Era for the Bills. The questions are gone for me. The Bills have arrived and I think we are going to be here for a long time to come. We have the cap management, off-season strategy, coaching, culture, and talent to fill out one of the strongest foundations I've seen in a long time. Embrace it, enjoy it. Welcome to the New Era Hey Virgil, you have an interesting take on this Bills team. (I will say that I was a Leodis McKelvin fan. Guy could return punts as well as anyone we ever had, had good speed and played hard. He was not a great player. But he was a solid player and a stand up guy. Had a decent NFL career) I have been a fan since the mid 70's. Seen some great Bills teams, some good Bills teams and a lot of below average to bad Bills teams. But to say we have ARRIVED is a little premature, wouldn't you say?? Yes our roster looks quite good right now. Especially after yesterday's draft. I was harping for weeks on how we did not have enuf offensive weapons. Well after yesterday, I like our offense a whole lot better. Contrary to what some on here think, you need a lot of decent to good receivers over the life of a 16 game season to be successful. That all being said. I think it is premature to say we have arrived. We won 10 games last year with a weak schedule and a marginal offense. We have not won a playoff game for 24 years. (Loved that stat shoved in our face by ESPN graphics Friday nite) I think we have arrived as far as becoming a very well run organization with an excellent GM and a solid head coach who has the makings of a very good head coach in the future. But until we start playing the 2020 season, any statement that the team has arrived is far too premature. Yes we have talent. But we still have a young QB with lots of questions that he will need to answer. We have a potentially good O line. But lets see what they do when the pads go on. We will have a much tougher schedule this season then last based on the divisions we will be playing. I appreciate and respect your enthusiasm brother Virgil. And I am excited as well. But until this team clinches the AFC East, and then goes on to win at least one playoff game, and is in the conversation of being a Super Bowl contender, or at least can start scoring 3 to 4 offensive TD's per game with regularity, we have not quite arrived.... 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Virgil Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Hey Virgil, you have an interesting take on this Bills team. (I will say that I was a Leodis McKelvin fan. Guy could return punts as well as anyone we ever had, had good speed and played hard. He was not a great player. But he was a solid player and a stand up guy. Had a decent NFL career) I have been a fan since the mid 70's. Seen some great Bills teams, some good Bills teams and a lot of below average to bad Bills teams. But to say we have ARRIVED is a little premature, wouldn't you say?? Yes our roster looks quite good right now. Especially after yesterday's draft. I was harping for weeks on how we did not have enuf offensive weapons. Well after yesterday, I like our offense a whole lot better. Contrary to what some on here think, you need a lot of decent to good receivers over the life of a 16 game season to be successful. That all being said. I think it is premature to say we have arrived. We won 10 games last year with a weak schedule and a marginal offense. We have not won a playoff game for 24 years. (Loved that stat shoved in our face by ESPN graphics Friday nite) I think we have arrived as far as becoming a very well run organization with an excellent GM and a solid head coach who has the makings of a very good head coach in the future. But until we start playing the 2020 season, any statement that the team has arrived is far too premature. Yes we have talent. But we still have a young QB with lots of questions that he will need to answer. We have a potentially good O line. But lets see what they do when the pads go on. We will have a much tougher schedule this season then last based on the divisions we will be playing. I appreciate and respect your enthusiasm brother Virgil. And I am excited as well. But until this team clinches the AFC East, and then goes on to win at least one playoff game, and is in the conversation of being a Super Bowl contender, or at least can start scoring 3 to 4 offensive TD's per game with regularity, we have not quite arrived.... Maybe I should clarify what I mean by “arrived.” To me, it’s any team that you expect to be in the hunt for playoffs. They should win their division and an opposing teams won’t be surprised with a loss against us. It’s the teams you simply respect. Opposed to the teams you expect to beat, expect to find a way to lose, expect to not be a playoff threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: @Virgil I admit I'm sipping the Kool Aid too. My favorite old school flavor was Choo Choo Cherry. I don't know what that crap is, but "Pre-sweetened without sugar" is not Koolaid! The Koolaid packet says "fill the pitcher up with sugar and then put the flavoring and water in". Looks more like a farting tomato than a cherry anyway. Come ON!!!! Edited April 26, 2020 by 4BillsintheBurgh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I felt this post. Go bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: I don't know what that crap is, but "Pre-sweetened without sugar" is not Koolaid! The Koolaid packet says "fill the pitcher up with sugar and then put the flavoring and water in". Looks more like a farting tomato than a cherry anyway. Come ON!!!! Do your farts come out of the top of your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, Gugny said: Do your farts come out of the top of your head? No, but I'm not a tomato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Now pay attn all you wanna be lampers this is what it is supposed to look like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: @Virgil I admit I'm sipping the Kool Aid too. My favorite old school flavor was Choo Choo Cherry. artificially and imitation......quality product! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Virgil said: For those that don't know me, I've been a BLAH BLAH BLAH.. I absolutely lost my ***** when the Bills lost to the Texans. I mean, absolutely lost in with more anger than I can ever remember having about this team. I even got myself banned for posting while angry, even though I still don't agree with the logic. At the time, and moreso until the draft, I couldn't understand why that loss affected me so much. I know that I suffer from chronic BBFS, but this was different. BLAH BLAH BLAH 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I was the guy who lost his ***** when Allen was draft BLAH BLAH BLAH and Spiller made me question life. Again, all for context. In any case, the conclusion I've come to realize is... We've arrived. BLAH BLAH BLAH I expect us to win the division. I expect Allen to take another step forward. I expect a home playoff game. I expect us to be competitive in every game. I expect, if we lose, to be pissed because we were the better team and capable of winning. Welcome to the New Era So, following another last second playoff loss, we can expect another nuclear meltdown?? Here’s a BIG LAMP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badanswer Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Nice post Virgil I too believe this is the time...Not since Cornelius Bennett got here have I felt this proud and encouraged. If Dabol can get this offense scoring 24+ points a game we're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I though this was going to be about hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: BLAH BLAH BLAH So, following another last second playoff loss, we can expect another nuclear meltdown?? Here’s a BIG LAMP! I want to tell you no but..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Virgil said: I expect a home playoff game OMG, that would be so sweet. This place would be lit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: I don't know what that crap is, but "Pre-sweetened without sugar" is not Koolaid! The Koolaid packet says "fill the pitcher up with sugar and then put the flavoring and water in". Looks more like a farting tomato than a cherry anyway. Come ON!!!! We didn't have money to waste on Kool Aid and ADD SUGAR! We had to settle for Funny Face in the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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