Rank the AFC Teams as of Now

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

He is still learning but the rate at which he is improving is notable.

 

3 minutes ago, eball said:

I see a guy with an incredible work ethic and desire to be great, matched up with unbelievable natural talent. 

 

I will be shocked, not surprised, if the numbers aren't significantly better this year and beyond.

We mostly agree.

 

His character is great, work ethic, team player, coach ability all of that. 
 

I expect another modest improvement this season, but I don’t see a massive jump. That’s my read.

 

But the Bills FO has done everything they can to improve the talent. 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Roman is outstanding. Always have. He got run out of two spots by Head Coaches who couldn't get out of their own way. I think the Ravens are the team to beat, I really do. I acknowledge how special the Chiefs are but repeating in the NFL hasn't been done for a long time because it is really hard. If someone had a gun to my head right now and told me to name the Superbowl Champions for the 2020 season I'd say Baltimore.

The chiefs are one atrocious, non-impactful, pop warner, pre-snap penalty away from being back to back afc champs.... really hard to bet against them in the afc right now. 
 

the difference between them and the ravens this year might be if the game is played in arrowhead or not. But no matter where it is, at this point, my money is always gonna be on mahomes in January. Let’s not forget Jackson hasn’t exactly risen up to the playoff challenge as of yet. 
 

that wasn’t very analytical. But it’s what I’m sticking to. Haha. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Trogdor]

11 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

The Jets made a lot of really smart moves in the offseason for a change. The Dolphins went big game hunting, but the Jets added a depth At key spots and built up the middle of their roster.

 

 

It's the coach for them that I don't like. They could grab the whole 49s team and lose I think. I was impressed with Flores and they have a knack for bouncing back fast.

[SoTier]

11 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

The Jets made a lot of really smart moves in the offseason for a change. The Dolphins went big game hunting, but the Jets added a depth At key spots and built up the middle of their roster.

 

 

 

I think Gase is more of a problem for the Jets than their talent level. 

 

10 hours ago, Yav said:

Sorry but, until we see the Patriots stink they are still good.

 

My feeling exactly.  Keep in mind that in 2001, the Pats lost their franchise QB at the time, Drew Bledsoe, in the first game of the season.  Belichick brought in an unknown 6th round QB from Michigan and won the Super Bowl with him at the end of that season ... and won 5 more SBs over the next two decades.  In 2008, Brady was knocked out in the season opener but Belichick took the Pats to an 11-5 record with Matt Cassel.   I would not be shocked if Belichick makes Stidham/Hoyer work.

 

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The Bills went 10-6, scored 314 points.

 

The Ravens went 14-2, scored 531 points. We struggled with the Texans, they smoked the Texans by 34 points. They also crushed New England, a team Brandon Beane acknowledged the Bills couldn’t beat, and they also beat the 49ers. 
 

It’s just my opinion, but given their acquisitions in FA, their full compliment of draft picks, we are solidly behind them in the AFC, at minimum until Josh Allen shows a higher gear. 
 

And the Ravens got beat, pretty handily at home by Tenn in the playoffs. I think that’s foreshadowing for this year. Lamar is going to be forced to adjust, he won’t be able to play the same game as last year. 

[Talley56]

3 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

And they also got beat at home in the playoffs, pretty soundly too. That reigning MVP looked pretty bad. Let’s see how Lamar does this year. 
To say the Bills aren’t in Baltimore’s league is laughable. 

Not laughable at all.  If Lamar stays healthy they are going to be a top tier team again.  But I certainly believe the Bills have gotten better and have the chance to be a top tier team.  But they have to actually prove it.  Even though the Chiefs won the super bowl the Ravens still scare me more in the regular season because I think they have a tougher defense.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Hate to tell you but McDermott is regarded as one the best coaches in the league now taking a team that missed the playoffs for 20 years to the playoffs two of the last three years and he could have like 5 jobs tomorrow if he got fired Uh you would majorly wrong Buffalo beats Ten, Houston, and Indy 

Didn’t the Bills almost beat them this year even with them going 14-2 and the roster upgrades in Buffalo are just as good as anything Baltimore did 

I never said he wasn’t regarded as one of the best coaches in the league. So is Reid, Harbaugh, and Reich. I may have been hasty in putting Ten ahead of us but they’re close imo. Houston is ahead of us for Deshaun Watson alone. The contrast of his play vs Allen’s play in the playoff game is undeniable

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, BillzMafia said:

Laughable to have the ***** Bills above the Chiefs. My lord you're a dipshit.

Only an assclown would spell Bills with a Z.

[y2zipper]

I'm probably going to be lower than most of the posts that I see here on Tennessee simply because I think Tannehill's short sample was so far outside his career numbers that they'll crash this season. 

 

Tier 1 (team I expect to get the bye): Kansas City

Tier 2 (teams I expect to make the postseason): Baltimore, Buffalo, Houston, Indianapolis

Tier 3 (Teams I expect to compete for the last 2 spots): Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, 

Tier 4 (Teams that won't make the postseason) Miami, New England, Denver, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, New York Jets (there are different levels of team here).

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

I'm probably going to be lower than most of the posts that I see here on Tennessee simply because I think Tannehill's short sample was so far outside his career numbers that they'll crash this season. 

 

Tier 1 (team I expect to get the bye): Kansas City

Tier 2 (teams I expect to make the postseason): Baltimore, Buffalo, Houston, Indianapolis

Tier 3 (Teams I expect to compete for the last 2 spots): Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, 

Tier 4 (Teams that won't make the postseason) Miami, New England, Denver, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, New York Jets (there are different levels of team here).

 

Agree on Tennessee - think you are way too low on Denver.

[78thealltimegreat]

2 hours ago, Chemical said:

I never said he wasn’t regarded as one of the best coaches in the league. So is Reid, Harbaugh, and Reich. I may have been hasty in putting Ten ahead of us but they’re close imo. Houston is ahead of us for Deshaun Watson alone. The contrast of his play vs Allen’s play in the playoff game is undeniable

Oh please Allen outplayed him for a good part of that game and save the fact he needed a miracle play in OT to beat the Bills and the Bills by far have a better roster at just about every single position Deandre Hopkins isn’t in Houston anymore but Stefon Diggs is walking through the door in Buffalo 

[The Frankish Reich]

On 4/26/2020 at 5:51 AM, MJS said:

 

I'd drop the Browns one slot and potentially the Dolphins one slot.

 

What do people see in the Broncos? I would put them at 10. They went 7-9 last year and why should we expect them to be better? Do people have a lot of confidence in Drew Lock?

Yes, people have a lot of confidence in Drew Lock! He was really impressive in that 5 game stretch as a starter, and not just against bad teams playing out the string. Here's his second ever start:

 

14

12/08

@ HOU

W   38-24

1

1

22

27

81.5

309

11.4

3

1

1

8

136.0

3

15

5.0

0

--

--

 

And that's with a WR corps of Courtland Sutton and .... a bunch of guys who won't be on the team in 2020.

They lost a lot -- a lot! -- of close games too, which usually bodes well for a turnaround.

[billsfan89]

Hard to not rank the Bills as the number 3 team in the AFC, The Ravens had a really strong draft and kept most of their team together, The Chiefs are the champs and they should be ranked one. But out of the rest I am not sure who you would put firmly above the Bills. The Steelers are getting Big Ben back but they lost some key pieces on defense. The Pats lost their QB and have massive other issues on offense, I am not buying the Titans QB situation and skill positions, and the Texans lost their best receiver. I don’t see any other non-playoff teams from 2019 that made some sort of huge leap. 

 

The Bills have no glaring holes on the roster and they are deep at most if not all positions. They are well coached and their QB is a young ascending QB who even if he maintains his level of play from 2019 can get the Bills to 11-12 wins. I also think that not only did the Bills add Diggs to the offense but they hopefully improved the ST unit with 2 key specialists via free agency and a kicker via the draft.

 

The minimum expectations for this roster should be to win the division and win a playoff game. Anything less is a disappointment of epic proportions. Beyond that I would say that expecting a bye is hard since there is only 1 bye now and expecting a AFC title game appearance or higher is hard to do because a lot of that will be determined by matchups and injuries things that are not fully in the team’s control. 

[Sweats]

23 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

So you feel that the Texans team that barely beat the Bills in the playoffs that had Hopkins on it would beat the Bills again right now without Hopkins? I also think the Titans are taking a HUGE gamble on Tannehill repeating what he did last year. If he plays like (or slightly above) the Tannehill we saw before last year, they will struggle to make the playoffs 

 

 

 

The Texans barely beat the Bills............lol

They scored 20 points in the last 10 minutes of the game to win and we ***** the proverbially bed.

 

Listen kid........to be the man, you gotta beat the man. We've shown nothing except that we can direct our own path into the playoffs, that's it. 

Until we can beat the teams that beat us, my opinion won't change.

[MJS]

42 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yes, people have a lot of confidence in Drew Lock! He was really impressive in that 5 game stretch as a starter, and not just against bad teams playing out the string. Here's his second ever start:

 

14

12/08

@ HOU

W   38-24

1

1

22

27

81.5

309

11.4

3

1

1

8

136.0

3

15

5.0

0

--

--

 

And that's with a WR corps of Courtland Sutton and .... a bunch of guys who won't be on the team in 2020.

They lost a lot -- a lot! -- of close games too, which usually bodes well for a turnaround.

Ok, I can get behind that. But I'll have to see more from Lock. We've seen QB's have good stretches in the past and then fall off a cliff. Let's see if he can come in and keep performing.

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

Ok, I can get behind that. But I'll have to see more from Lock. We've seen QB's have good stretches in the past and then fall off a cliff. Let's see if he can come in and keep performing.

 

With those weapons and Fangio defense he only needs to be average. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

On 4/26/2020 at 8:13 AM, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Lol the Jets. 

Would have lost to them last season had their kicker not exploded .... I won’t blow off any division opponent 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

19 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Hate to tell you but McDermott is regarded as one the best coaches in the league now taking a team that missed the playoffs for 20 years to the playoffs two of the last three years and he could have like 5 jobs tomorrow if he got fired Uh you would majorly wrong Buffalo beats Ten, Houston, and Indy 

Didn’t the Bills almost beat them this year even with them going 14-2 and the roster upgrades in Buffalo are just as good as anything Baltimore did 

I don’t understand why people rank teams by who they beat in one particular game. Over and over I’ve seen “we almost beat Baltimore, so we’re as good”, yet nobody seems to say “the Browns beAt us, they must be our equal” .... point being, judge teams by the entire body of work, not on a game by game basis

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

9 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The Bills went 10-6, scored 314 points.

 

The Ravens went 14-2, scored 531 points. We struggled with the Texans, they smoked the Texans by 34 points. They also crushed New England, a team Brandon Beane acknowledged the Bills couldn’t beat, and they also beat the 49ers. 
 

It’s just my opinion, but given their acquisitions in FA, their full compliment of draft picks, we are solidly behind them in the AFC, at minimum until Josh Allen shows a higher gear. 
 

I love josh but I trying to figure out the logic that goes into the common opinion that Allen is absolutely going to improve but Jackson is suddenly going to take a step backwards 

[Success]

Pats fans have already talked themselves off the ledge from Brady leaving, and many are actually convinced that this is exactly like 2001 and that Stidham will follow the same trajectory in the years ahead.  Most are back to predicting 12-4 and owning the division again next year.

 

The coming years are going to be delightful.