RobbRiddick Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Knox had some key drops but he also made some great plays. I loved the guy as soon as he ran over those Bengals DBs and he made enough plays the rest of the year to make me think he'll show a big step up in his second year. When you consider they barely threw him the ball in college, I think he did pretty well and has the potential to be really good. 2
NewEra Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, Augie said: To be fair, they signed Kroft, and drafted two guys last year. I can’t say it’s “neglected”, but did they hit? Not sure yet. I still have high hopes for Knox, and we’ll see what the others offer. Too many needs to start over before we know what we have, IMO. You can’t do it ALL at once! Hopefully better WR’s open more space for the TE’s to make plays. The way I see it, we haven’t had a really good tight end in my lifetime as a bills fan, 40 years. That = neglect as an organization. last year was the most attention we’ve ever shown the position in my lifetime.....and we currently don’t have one tight end we can count on. we hope Knox will be that guy. We know what the other guys are for the most part. Barely good enough to make the team 1 1
y2zipper Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 I expect to see a lot of 3WR 1TE sets, and in that sense Buffalo is probably set now with a good prospect in Knox, Kroft, Sweeney and Croom.
Happy Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Between Knox and Sweeney, I hope so. Smith is primarily a blocker and penalty flag generator, Croom is a boy toy.
Jerry Jabber Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, y2zipper said: I expect to see a lot of 3WR 1TE sets, and in that sense Buffalo is probably set now with a good prospect in Knox, Kroft, Sweeney and Croom. If the offense continues to sputter for another year, then it’s time to look for a new OC. 1
ColoradoBills Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: How many games did the Bills TE’s have 100+ yards receiving in last year, let alone the past twenty years? 11 total since 1960! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=1960&year_max=2019&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos[]=TE&is_starter=E&game_type=R&team_id=buf&career_game_num_min=1&career_game_num_max=400&qb_start_num_min=1&qb_start_num_max=400&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&c1stat=rec_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c5val=1.0&order_by=game_date
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: How many games did the Bills TE’s have 100+ yards receiving in last year, let alone the past twenty years? Huh? Is that how you determine if we have a talented TE?
Jerry Jabber Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Huh? Is that how you determine if we have a talented TE? That, how many receptions, how many drops, touchdowns and blocking ability. Am I missing something?
nikuman Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: How many games did the Bills TE’s have 100+ yards receiving in last year, let alone the past twenty years? Even the best TEs in the game average only 70-75 yds per game...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: 11 total since 1960! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=1960&year_max=2019&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos[]=TE&is_starter=E&game_type=R&team_id=buf&career_game_num_min=1&career_game_num_max=400&qb_start_num_min=1&qb_start_num_max=400&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&c1stat=rec_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c5val=1.0&order_by=game_date Thanks! Only three since 1992, that’s sad. Just now, nikuman said: Even the best TEs in the game average only 70-75 yds per game... And how many Bills TE’s over the past 20 years have averaged those numbers compared to the rest of the league?
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Jerry Jabber said: Looks like McBeane is happy with Knox, Sweeney, Kroft, Smith and Croom. IMO, the TE position has been neglected for years. While I like the other offensive additions this offseason, I felt TE was a glaring hole. Yes, Knox flashed some potential, but he also had a lot of drops. Not saying Knox doesn’t have the ability to improve, but if the Bills are planning on Knox to be the #1 TE, then I think it’s a mistake. It would be nice if the Bills could get with the rest of the NFL and get one to two TE’s that have the potential for multiple 100+ yard games a season. If I’m wrong and Knox and Sweeney turn out to be diamonds in the rough for the Bills, then I will gladly eat some crow on this. They signed a FA and drafted two TE's last year. TE has been the worst position in Bills history with zero ProBowl nominations - ever. But they added three new players last year and Knox looks like he can be great.
ColoradoBills Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Thanks! Only three since 1992, that’s sad. And how many Bills TE’s over the past 20 years have averaged those numbers compared to the rest of the league? I'm just checking AFCE since inception. Miami has 7. NYJ have 25 and the Pats* have 63. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: That, how many receptions, how many drops, touchdowns and blocking ability. Am I missing something? Knox is by far the most talented young TE we've had that I can remember. He has the potential to be what you want at TE. Many of the best TEs in history are mid round picks developed into stars. Knox seriously has that potential. As far as stats go he had a decent rookie year, especially with how little we pass.
nikuman Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Thanks! Only three since 1992, that’s sad. And how many Bills TE’s over the past 20 years have averaged those numbers compared to the rest of the league? Hell, we barely have receivers reach that mark. Difficult when 95% of your drives go Run-Run-Pass-Punt. I know it isn't really 95%, but sure feels like it sometimes. 1
BobbyC81 Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Adam said: We will see what areas Knox improves in this year. It also will be interesting how much more room he has to work with, now that Diggs is out there Another effect of the Coronavirus may be that the 2nd year players don’t have the jump in productivity that they normally do, because of reduced off season workouts.
Augie Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: The way I see it, we haven’t had a really good tight end in my lifetime as a bills fan, 40 years. That = neglect as an organization. last year was the most attention we’ve ever shown the position in my lifetime.....and we currently don’t have one tight end we can count on. we hope Knox will be that guy. We know what the other guys are for the most part. Barely good enough to make the team I get that. I think McKeller and Riemersma were pretty good TE’s. Regardless, I try to never go back farther than the present owners. It’s just looking to make myself miserable, and I refuse to go there. The current regime has taken multiple shots at the TE position. I hope some of it works out.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Jerry Jabber said: Looks like McBeane is happy with Knox, Sweeney, Kroft, Smith and Croom. IMO, the TE position has been neglected for years. While I like the other offensive additions this offseason, I felt TE was a glaring hole. Yes, Knox flashed some potential, but he also had a lot of drops. Not saying Knox doesn’t have the ability to improve, but if the Bills are planning on Knox to be the #1 TE, then I think it’s a mistake. It would be nice if the Bills could get with the rest of the NFL and get one to two TE’s that have the potential for multiple 100+ yard games a season. If I’m wrong and Knox and Sweeney turn out to be diamonds in the rough for the Bills, then I will gladly eat some crow on this. They signed 4 TE's last year, I wouldn't call that neglected. The one thing I do know if no one knows how good Know could be including you.
Jerry Jabber Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm just checking AFCE since inception. Miami has 7. NYJ have 25 and the Pats* have 63. Thanks again! Not surprised by the Cheatriots numbers. 1
artmalibu Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Did the Bills Pass on the TE that is for sure better than what they have?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, ColeB said: Another effect of the Coronavirus may be that the 2nd year players don’t have the jump in productivity that they normally do, because of reduced off season workouts. Hasn't really had too much affect yet on the NFL. It's likely to hurt rookies the most.
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