TwistofFate Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I don't share your pessimism regarding Allen. I think he's going to continue to improve and be very good. I do agree Fromm is better than folks think. You could also mention the change in OC his junior year. Fella (Coley) was a big drop off from Jim Chaney. I hope Allen improves I don't to be in QB limbo for another couple years. My biggest fear with Allen is his accuracy, and that he will never be able to bring that up to a franchise quarterback level. They've given him everything this year and this is his year to prove it. But now I feel very very confident that if he does falter we will not be in QB limbo and hopefully have a good answer to move to at least in the short-term.
Dr. Who Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: I hope Allen improves I don't to be in QB limbo for another couple years. My biggest fear with Allen is his accuracy, and that he will never be able to bring that up to a franchise quarterback level. They've given him everything this year and this is his year to prove it. But now I feel very very confident that if he does falter we will not be in QB limbo and hopefully have a good answer to move to at least in the short-term. Well, I am hoping Allen Fromm is the new Kelly Reich. We'll see. Expectations for Fromm are set low for much of the fan base. They're going to be surprised when they discover he actually has some talent. 1
Cheektowaga Chad Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 This a kid well worth trying to develop. Slow cook him let him learn slowly and you may have something Could it be as a starter probably not Could it be as a good back up QB sure The good thing about a 5th round pick is that if we decide against developing him, its a 5th 1
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, TwistofFate said: When you have a bad performance at the combine, yea, matters. "My money is on Fromm emerging as a true threat to be the number one overall pick in 2020." https://nflmocks.com/2019/07/01/jake-fromm-early-2020-nfl-draft-scouting-notes-thoughts/ "Don't be that general manager. Be smarter than forcing it by falling in love with a tools-only quarterback. Instead, make that scouting trip to Athens, Georgia, this summer to watch tape on the most pro-ready NFL quarterback prospect in the 2020 draft class." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2844075-jake-fromm-is-the-perfect-qb-prospect-for-win-now-nfl-teams Bottom Line Fromm doesn’t have the highest ceiling in this class, but he is a pro-ready quarterback who does all of the little things well and can march an offense down the field. He is an accurate, intelligent and mechanically sound thrower who can effective march an offense down the field. Projection: Round 2 https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2019/11/10/2020-nfl-draft-jake-from-scouting-report-georgia/ "Scouts loved Fromm coming into his Junior campaign and those who really know football are going to see that some of the shortcomings weren’t completely Fromm’s fault (think Missouri & Auburn, not A&M or LSU)." https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/fromm-draft-stock-worth-pursuing Accuracy – Fromm is lethal when throwing to just about any location on the football field. He can be seen on tape working to throw open his targets against some of the best defenses in the country. When he does miss, it is typically an overthrow on a deep pass or on a rushed delivery. "Fromm should be one of the top quarterbacks selected." https://www.sportsmediapass.com/2019/11/13/2020-nfl-draft-scouting-report-georgias-jake-fromm/ "This past week, ESPN NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. said he expects Fromm to be a first round pick, albeit probably not the No. 1 overall pick." “My comp for him would be Drew Brees,” Kiper said. “Drew Brees’ arm got stronger once he got in the NFL with the Chargers and the Saints. Jake Fromm will probably go a little higher than that.” https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgia-football-jake-fromm-2020-nfl-draft ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. ranked Fromm as the fifth-best quarterback eligible for the 2020 draft, behind LSU's Joe Burrow, Alabama's Tua Tagovailoa, Oregon's Justin Herbert and Washington's Jacob Eason. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28447520/georgia-quarterback-jake-fromm-entering-nfl-draft If you like I can keep going. Fromm lost a lot of talent he was used to playing with in his junior year including his Center and multiple Wrs. Not having the best combine, covid19 didnt allow him a pro day or private work outs with NFL clubs leading up to the draft. He slid because of it, and im glad, because we got a great kid and a hell of a team player. If Allen faulters this year, we have the goods in the pipeline and im ecstatic. Even after all that, you FAIL to convince me COVID Is nothing more than an excuse. I don’t have any reason to doubt what so-called experts said about Fromm. You went out on a limb and blamed COVID for his draft slide and I call that irrational excuse making. Again, my point has nothing to do with Fromm, it has to do with you conjecturing COVID into the discussion which didn’t appear to affect any other prospect...just Fromm. Like who really gives a crap where he went, he’s a Buffalo Bill now. Would you much rather him be a Jet drafted in the 2nd round?
Buffalo716 Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Patrick Mahomes also has very small hands so that’s done. 9.25 Mahomes has a cannon Something Burrow and Fromm doesn't have
Lurker Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 10:02 PM, YoloinOhio said: I have now changed my mind on Fromm, for two BIG reasons. Welcome to Buffalo, Jake...and family!
Dr. Who Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: I have now changed my mind on Fromm, for two BIG reasons. Welcome to Buffalo, Jake...and family! Good to see your, um, critical capacities are still working. Probably didn't show up in the scouting report. 1
Lurker Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Good to see your, um, critical capacities are still working. Probably didn't show up in the scouting report. Yes, those were certainly hidden assets... 1
TwistofFate Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Even after all that, you FAIL to convince me COVID Is nothing more than an excuse. I don’t have any reason to doubt what so-called experts said about Fromm. You went out on a limb and blamed COVID for his draft slide and I call that irrational excuse making. Again, my point has nothing to do with Fromm, it has to do with you conjecturing COVID into the discussion which didn’t appear to affect any other prospect...just Fromm. Like who really gives a crap where he went, he’s a Buffalo Bill now. Would you much rather him be a Jet drafted in the 2nd round? It effected a lot of prospects. Wtf are you talking about? Ive said many times im glad he's a Bill. Covid has shut down the entire nation, how ignorant can someone be to think it didn't effect the draft where it is imperative to travel to teams interested in you who want a closer look.
Dr. Who Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: It effected a lot of prospects. Wtf are you talking about? Ive said many times im glad he's a Bill. Covid has shut down the entire nation, how ignorant can someone be to think it didn't effect the draft where it is imperative to travel to teams interested in you who want a closer look. Everyone who had a poor showing at the Combine lacked an opportunity to redress that impression in some form of live performance. I think it may have benefitted the Bills. There's an article I read somewhere today arguing Epenesa, Moss, and Fromm all went a round later than likely had they had normal pro days and interviews. 2
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: It effected a lot of prospects. Wtf are you talking about? Ive said many times im glad he's a Bill. Covid has shut down the entire nation, how ignorant can someone be to think it didn't effect the draft where it is imperative to travel to teams interested in you who want a closer look. Nope not buying it. You have no proof other than conjecture. You made a point of fact, that he was a victim of COVID without any quantitative or qualitative proof. If you can provide that, I will gladly change my opinion.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 He is going to one of those guys who isn’t very good, will have one good drive and some people will go crazy for him, will suck every time he plays after that, but will stick in the NFL for a long time because the coaches like him while they pray he never plays. seems like a good dude and I liked him on QB1. But I see no upside for a college game manager who was the worst NFL talent of the 3 qbs Georgia had. but it will be awesome when this thread gets pumped after he leads a td drive in the 4th quarter of a preseason game against the Lions Peterman or Tuel style.
Saxum Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 7:15 AM, YoloinOhio said: The thing is when he talked about going to Buffalo he talked about hunting and FISHING!
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 If he starts shredding our defense in practice that is enough for me. He probably won’t play against a better defense all season. You just never know with QB’s, you can only hope that they develop and are productive. Only time will tell with the QB position but I do hope he shreds our defense in 11 on 11’s 1
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If he starts shredding our defense in practice that is enough for me. He probably won’t play against a better defense all season. You just never know with QB’s, you can only hope that they develop and are productive. Only time will tell with the QB position but I do hope he shreds our defense in 11 on 11’s Peterman looked awesome in practice and preseason, but when the lights came on and he played defenses that had spent the week game planning against him he fizzled. Covered the area inside the 20s and made him throw to the outside part of the field. I think they're similar QBs, smart, great intangibles, but don't possess an NFL quality arm. They even were drafted in the same round only 4 picks apart from each other(167 vs 171). Time will tell, but hopefully we found a great backup for the next decade or so.
Back2Buff Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Peterman looked awesome in practice and preseason, but when the lights came on and he played defenses that had spent the week game planning against him he fizzled. Covered the area inside the 20s and made him throw to the outside part of the field. I think they're similar QBs, smart, great intangibles, but don't possess an NFL quality arm. They even were drafted in the same round only 4 picks apart from each other(167 vs 171). Time will tell, but hopefully we found a great backup for the next decade or so. Fromm is way better than Peterman. Peterman in the SEC wouldn't even start. Fromm processes information at a ridiculous rate. Peterman was literally throwing the ball into the CB or Safety hands. Fromm reminds me of Ryan Fitzpatrick. He knows where to put the ball, but sometimes you are scratching your head with the accuracy on the throw. 2
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Peterman looked awesome in practice and preseason, but when the lights came on and he played defenses that had spent the week game planning against him he fizzled. Covered the area inside the 20s and made him throw to the outside part of the field. I think they're similar QBs, smart, great intangibles, but don't possess an NFL quality arm. They even were drafted in the same round only 4 picks apart from each other(167 vs 171). Time will tell, but hopefully we found a great backup for the next decade or so. I believe anything is possible when u draft a QB. Brady and Brees both had arm strength on the low side of the arm strength meter. Fromm won a lot at the college level and understands the game of football forward and back. They let Fromm call audibles at the LOS and trusted him 100%. One thing is for sure, Fromm will grind it out in the film room and improve every day. The IT factor to me is the passion a player has to succeed and play a game that they love and Fromm definitely has that through the roof. I really don’t think his arm strength or hand size will be a deterrent and it will be something that he improves on just like Brady and Brees did. Only time will tell but I would draft QB’s like Fromm until I hit gold. 2
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: Fromm is way better than Peterman. Peterman in the SEC wouldn't even start. Fromm processes information at a ridiculous rate. Peterman was literally throwing the ball into the CB or Safety hands. Fromm reminds me of Ryan Fitzpatrick. He knows where to put the ball, but sometimes you are scratching your head with the accuracy on the throw. Yeah, they're not comparable because of level of competition. Where Fromm ends up remains to be seen. I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand. 1
Saxum Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, BubbaT said: Could Fromm be our next Frank Reich? How many great comebacks did he lead? I do not think he will be the next Bills player to be a NFL head coach.
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