billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, 34-78-83 said: I doubt we're taking a rd2 RB to backup a rd3 RB. Also PLEASE no DT in rd 2. I don't agree at all that we are too old at the position (Oliver, Phillips and the Seatlle guy we got). DT is probably the position this team needs the least. Oliver is a future stud and behind him Phillips is young, Jefferson from Seattle should be here the next two seasons and Butler is another player with basically an option for 2021 who is in his mid 20's. The only older player at DT is Star who should still have a year or two of production left. I don't want a RB at 54 unless the value is insane, I would prefer a CB or DE in round 2 and then a WR in round 3 and grab a RB in round 4 and then grab another defensive depth player in round 5. This team needs to fill out the edges of depth on the roster. There isn't a glaring starting need on the team. So I would prefer no trade up situations. Just let the draft come to you and try and get 3-4 good young prospects as opposed to putting your eggs in one basket. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Getting a good player? Yeah, maybe but maybe not. But surely there'll be plenty of good ones still available. But probably 60% of those guys will underachieve expectations. Yeah but Beane is batting a better batting average than .400 on players picked in rounds 2 and 3 So while the group will likely see more than 60% underachieve, I have a lot of confidence in who our regime taps as the picks.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, T master said: Most all the players that were thought to be gone by the time the Bills pick came around are still on the board so there will be a good player that is coming to B/Lo tonight !! Every draft ever called and wants their facts back. Hahaha, just saying the draft never ever falls like anyones mock drafts ever. All kinds of first round graded guys end up in the 2nd round or even later while 2nd round graded guys will end up going in the first round.
GoBills808 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: I can understand CB or DE.... but man if a big time WR like Claypool is sitting there at 54 I’d love for them to pull the trigger. I know they claim the philosophy is BPA.... but I feel like the BPA is biased towards positions they like.....somebody who plays defense and def not a WR as Beane has stated numerous times he sees it as the position with a high bust rate. He’s scared to draft them. Yes. Our GM is scared to draft wideouts. Don't suppose you ever stop and think about what you're typing 1
billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: I can understand CB or DE.... but man if a big time WR like Claypool is sitting there at 54 I’d love for them to pull the trigger. I know they claim the philosophy is BPA.... but I feel like the BPA is biased towards positions they like.....somebody who plays defense and def not a WR as Beane has stated numerous times he sees it as the position with a high bust rate. He’s scared to draft them. BPA is not literal, would you draft 5 RB's if they happened to be the highest player on your board in each round? No GM ever just drafts BPA. I think when teams say BPA they mean that they aren't going to reach for need. You aren't going to pass one of the top players on your board just because he might not fit an immediate need if the only other options at need positions are subpar values. I would be satisfied with a CB, DE, or WR at pick 54 and I wouldn't mind a RB if it is Dobbins or another insane value. But they can't take a DT or QB or some other position where there isn't a glaring short or long term need. 1
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Yantha said: I totally agree Scott, but this team has draft needs at multiple positions, and I just think that a trade up would be a mistake. I think we need those pics! I really want Cam Akers!! but just hope he drops. I think that Aker is the 6th best RB. Swift will go to Miami and that leaves Dobbins or Taylor who might fall to the Bills. Everybody says that Tampa is going RB. That leaves only one of the top 5 to drop to us. There is some risk with Akers because he played with a poor line and a somewhat kinky style offense. #54 may be too high for him and he probably won't last until #86. As to the 4th round, remember there are an extra 10 compensation picks at the end of the 3rd round, so the 4th round starts at 107 and not 97. That means there are 40 picks between our 3rd and 4th round picks and that many more shots for other teams who have a need for a RB to get one. https://dknation.draftkings.com/2020/3/24/21183979/buffalo-bills-2020-nfl-draft-picks-full-list-needs-mock-draft-stefon-diggs-trade Edited April 24, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan
GoBills808 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Well. The team was WR needy in last years draft and the guy didn’t draft ONE WR among a class of good ones that he passed on.... and he’s repeatedly stated WRs have the highest bust rate. So yes, I’d say he’s timid about drafting WRs. Last year's class wasn't that highly regarded iirc...who would you have taken instead of our picks?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Yes, I believe we are. Jayson Johnson, CB, Utah Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State Yetur Gross-Matos, EDGE, Penn State AJ Epenesa, EDGE, Iowa Zack Baun, EDGE, Wisconsin Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State Michael Pittman Jr, WR, USC Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia JK Dobbins, RB, Ohio State Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama Grant Delpit, S, LSU Antoine Winfield Jr, S, Minnesota Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyne Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois Ashtyn Davis, S, California Josh Jones, OT, Houston Marlon Davidson, DL, Auburn Ross Blacklock, DL, TCU Neville Gallimore, DL, Oklahoma At absolute worst, two of the above will be available at pick 54. Very likely more than that. And I didn't even list Higgins or Claypool or Bryce Hall because I hate them lol
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Locomark said: Every mock I do loads decent players in 2 and 3: AFTER round 1 Another Winfield 54: R2P22 S ANTOINE WINFIELD MINNESOTA 86: R3P22 RB CAM AKERS FSU 128: R4P22 G NETANE MUTI FRESNO STATE 167: R5P21 EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN MIAMI 188: R6P9 OT CHARLIE HECK NORTH CAROLINA 207: R6P28 TE DALTON KEENE VIRGINIA TECH 239: R7P25 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST Hey KC, we’ll match your weapons - my personal favorite 54: R2P22 RB J.K. DOBBINS OHIO STATE 86: R3P22 WR ANTONIO GANDY-GOLDEN LIBERTY 128: R4P22 EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN MIAMI 167: R5P21 G HAKEEM ADENIJI KANSAS 188: R6P9 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST 207: R6P28 LB MICHAEL DIVINITY JR.LSU 239: R7P25 DL BENITO JONES MISSISSIPPI Kings of the big ten 54: R2P22 LB ZACK BAUN WISCONSIN 86: R3P22 RB J.K. DOBBINS OHIO STATE 128: R4P22 WR K.J. HILL OHIO STATE 167: R5P21 CB TROY PRIDE JR. NOTRE DAME 188: R6P9 OT CHARLIE HECK NORTH CAROLINA 207: R6P28 LB EVAN WEAVER CALIFORNIA 239: R7P25 K TYLER BASS GEORGIA SOUTHERN Look we get 2 pass rushers 54: R2P22 DL A.J. EPENESA IOWA 86: R3P22 RB CAM AKERS FSU 128: R4P22 CB TROY PRIDE JR. NOTRE DAME 167: R5P21 EDGE ALEX HIGHSMITH CHARLOTTE 188: R6P9 OT CHARLIE HECK NORTH CAROLINA 207: R6P28 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST 239: R7P25 LB MICHAEL PINCKNEY MIAMI Day 2 is going to be a Super Bowl building Day...... I would be thrilled with several of these and simply do not know enough players with others- I wonder if they are realistic?
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Thanks Booger!!! A bit harsh on Booger, but deserved a laugh.
Don Otreply Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I can understand CB or DE.... but man if a big time WR like Claypool is sitting there at 54 I’d love for them to pull the trigger. I know they claim the philosophy is BPA.... but I feel like the BPA is biased towards positions they like.....somebody who plays defense and def not a WR as Beane has stated numerous times he sees it as the position with a high bust rate. He’s scared to draft them. Agree, BPA is always at a position of want, BPA is subjective and is an opinion based on the decision makers knowledge, experiences, and preferences. It sure wouldn’t hurt the team to take Claypool. Go Bills!!!
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: There was at least 4 WRs they passed on they could’ve used.... I wanted Metcalf. Over Oliver?
Acattack15 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Give me Cam Akers and make me a happy man tonight! Dude is a stud and perfect compliment to Singletary. In Beane we trust! 2
Milanos Milano Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I think DL or LB in round 2 Really hoping for pass rusher. That’s our biggest need. 2 minutes ago, Acattack15 said: Give me Cam Akers and make me a happy man tonight! Dude is a stud and perfect compliment to Singletary. In Beane we trust! I’d be happy with Taylor, Dobbins, or Akers. But I think a sack monster DE is a bigger need. Weaver is a sack monster.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 DEs - AJ, Gross-Matos WRs - Claypool or Pittman RBs - Taylor is my choice but the other guys are fine too im so excited and I also realize they will pick a G or a CB. ? 1
Milanos Milano Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: DEs - AJ, Gross-Matos WRs - Claypool or Pittman RBs - Taylor is my choice but the other guys are fine too im so excited and I also realize they will pick a G or a CB. ? You don’t think Weaver is worthy? He’s had 10 sacks a year with TFL gaining every year, all of this without a senior year.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: You don’t think Weaver is worthy? He’s had 10 sacks a year with TFL gaining every year, all of this without a senior year. Honestly, I haven’t seen a lot of him. What are your thoughts? I think we badly need another pass rusher. The report I saw is he has below average explosiveness which is something you can get away with in college but not the pros. But I don’t know that much about him. Fill me in.
Milanos Milano Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, I haven’t seen a lot of him. What are your thoughts? I think we badly need another pass rusher. The report I saw is he has below average explosiveness which is something you can get away with in college but not the pros. But I don’t know that much about him. Fill me in. Not trying to disrespect your opinion, I was just curious as to why you left Weaver out of your picks. I’m not sure where the below average explosiveness reviews are coming from, every time I’ve watched him he consistently beats his man around the outside. He has a mean bend, and doesn’t just sweep past the QB when he steps up in the pocket like a lot of DEs do. As he bends he has and uncanny ability to stick his foot in the ground for an almost 90-100 degree angle that allows him to sack an evading QB as he steps up in the pocket. Only the best pass rushers have this ability.
njbuff Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I looked over the history of the 54th overall selection since the merger and it's mostly a cast of misfits with no HOFers. There were some good players though as the best one is Anquan Boldin. Sammy White and Simon Fletcher are others who stand out as well as Phil Hansen and Carlos Dunlap. 1
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