FireChans Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny. If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname?
MJS Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent. 10
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Interesting point. I think that *barreled over by Bama fans* 1
MassHog Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 From any report I have ever seen of Tua, everyone says he is a really great guy. So no, he is not Manziel 2.0 7 2
Happy Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJS said: Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent. Well said. Manziel was a head case and his own worst enemy. Just one dumb thing after another. 1 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Tua is not a party boy who is going to waste his career. But he may be a brittle lump of dust under the Bills D. 1 2 1
dgrochester55 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I do not see Tua ending up like Manziel. If anything I could a see career path like Bradford or Locker where injuries shorten or derail the career. 3
947 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Tua is not a party boy who is going to waste his career. But he may be a brittle lump of dust under the Bills D. How do we know how Tua will react living in South Beach? Without his overbearing Dad to make his decisions for him, he could go wild there. Add in the 13 on the Wonderlic, and there's at least some risk that this could end up like Marinovich. 1
H2o Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Absolutely not. Tua can actually read a defense, look off defenders, and is the exact opposite character wise. 2 3 1
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, MJS said: Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent. that, and his lack of talent. 22 minutes ago, H2o said: Absolutely not. Tua can actually read a defense, look off defenders, and is the exact opposite character wise. but comes with injuries instead. id rather take tua, but not scared of him in the division either
ProcessAccepted Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, FireChans said: Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny. If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname? There will only ever be one other Johnny Manziel and that's Billy Vegas Edited April 24, 2020 by ProcessAccepted 1
Mat68 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Manziel wasnt a professional. He partied his way out of the league. Tua wont do that imo. Maybe he gets hurt, most likley he is a hard worker and becomes a good player. Manziel was all potential no work ethic. 2
TroutDog Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) There is no comparison, in my opinion. The writing was on the wall with Johnny ‘$’. That was never Tua. He’s a team guy and isn’t made of glass: he always played to win a’la Josh...not a bad thing. Edited April 24, 2020 by TroutDog 4
K-9 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I don’t see it. Tua is sober and a committed student of the game where as Johnny football was hammered and didn’t bother showing up for film sessions. 3
gonzo1105 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I don’t think he’s elite. It helps having 3 NFL WRs and an offensive line and he still couldn’t stay healthy. He’s a good prospect but I have a lot of questions about him too
The Dean Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, FireChans said: Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny. If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname? Manziel was a total piece of garbage in college. I thought it was clear back then, he had a high bust factor. One thing I always ask is, "how will this guy handle a crapload of money and freedom?" I thought Manziel was likely to handle it badly. There is nothing about Tua to suggest he is in that same category. 3 1
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Tua is already ahead just by not being a POS human being.
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