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Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny.

 

If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname?

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Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent.

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3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent.

 

Well said.  Manziel was a head case and his own worst enemy.  Just one dumb thing after another.

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6 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

Tua is not a party boy who is going to waste his career. But he may be a brittle lump of dust under the Bills D.

How do we know how Tua will react living in South Beach? Without his overbearing Dad to make his decisions for him, he could go wild there. Add in the 13 on the Wonderlic, and there's at least some risk that this could end up like Marinovich. 

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Absolutely not. Tua can actually read a defense, look off defenders, and is the exact opposite character wise. 

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42 minutes ago, MJS said:

Let's hope. But I think Manziel's problem was his own mind rather than a lack of talent.


that, and his lack of talent.

22 minutes ago, H2o said:

Absolutely not. Tua can actually read a defense, look off defenders, and is the exact opposite character wise. 


but comes with injuries instead.

 

id rather take tua, but not scared of him in the division either 

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13 hours ago, FireChans said:

Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny.

 

If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname?

There will only ever be one other Johnny Manziel and that's Billy Vegas

Billy Manziel: Best photoshops of Billy Football | Larry Brown Sports 

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Manziel wasnt a professional.  He partied his way out of the league.  Tua wont do that imo.  Maybe he gets hurt, most likley he is a hard worker and becomes a good player.  Manziel was all potential no work ethic. 

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There is no comparison, in my opinion. The writing was on the wall with Johnny ‘$’. That was never Tua. He’s a team guy and isn’t made of glass: he always played to win a’la Josh...not a bad thing. 

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I don’t see it. Tua is sober and a committed student of the game where as Johnny football was hammered and didn’t bother showing up for film sessions. 

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I don’t think he’s elite. It helps having 3 NFL WRs and an offensive line and he still couldn’t stay healthy. He’s a good prospect but I have a lot of questions about him too

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55 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Let’s look at the facts. Both players benefitted from STAR OT’s in college. Both players benefitted from STAR WR’s. Tua has even better players than Johnny.

 

If the Emperor loses his clothes, is he really just a Johnny Manziel without the cool nickname?

 

Manziel was a total piece of garbage in college. I thought it was clear back then, he had a high bust  factor. One thing I always ask is, "how will this guy handle a crapload of money and freedom?" I thought Manziel was likely to handle it badly. There is nothing about Tua to suggest he is in that same category. 

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