CapeBreton Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I’m betting Patriots take Jalen Hurts tomorrow so you can probably factor that into the next 22 picks.
ExWNYer Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Couldn't disagree more. We need to expand this pathetic 17 pts per game offense. We're not going to do that with any of these overrated 2nd round edge guys. Diggs would be the only defensive guy I'd love at 54. If someone like Dobbins, Taylor, Mims or Claypool are there you go after them depending on Beane's board. We are going to agree to disagree, which is fine. They have no glaring needs so, outside of a K or P in Round 2, I will not be disappointed with their selection.
Buff76ers Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, CapeBreton said: I’m betting Patriots take Jalen Hurts tomorrow so you can probably factor that into the next 22 picks. I agree
SCBills Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't think that's true at all. We really need help at DE, OT and LB. Those aren’t “needs”. A team with Hughes and Addison at EDGE, with Murphy and a draft pick from last year as depth, with Jefferson as an inside/outside chess piece don’t “need” an EDGE. We could definitely use one though. A team with Dawkins, Ford. Nsehke and Williams at OT does not “need” an OT. We, maybe, could use one depending on Ford’s development at RT. A team with Edmunds and Milano, that plays only two linebackers half the team, does not “need” a LB. Edited April 24, 2020 by SCBills 1
CapeBreton Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 How far could AJ Epenesa fall? He had a dreadful combine but makes a ton of plays on the field.
mannc Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, HappyDays said: We don't have anyone young to develop behind Feliciano and Spain. Morse with his concussion history could use a young backup as well. It isn't an immediate need but neither is any position. WR and RB are immediate needs
gobills404 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't think that's true at all. We really need help at DE, OT and LB. DE - We have 3 decent (albeit old) NFL starters and a great special teamer OT - We have a good LT, a young RT who improved a lot last year, a good swing tackle in Nsekhe, and another potentially good RT in Williams if he returns to form somewhat LB - We have 2 amazing young players, a solid veteran starter and good depth (assuming Vosean doesn't completely suck) I'd love it if we could add some high upside youth at DE, but I definitely wouldn't consider that a pressing need. We could come away from this draft without a single DE, OT or LB and I'd be completely fine with it.
Simon Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: Those aren’t “needs”. A team with Hughes and Addison at EDGE, with Murphy and a draft pick from last year as depth, with Jefferson as an inside/outside chess piece don’t “need” an EDGE. We could definitely use one though. A team with Dawkins, Ford. Nsehke and Williams at OT does not “need” an OT. We, maybe, could use one depending on Ford’s development at RT. A team with Edmunds and Milano, that plays only two linebackers half the team, does not “need” a LB. I disagree with all of that. Hughes is undersized and on the wrong side of 30, Addison has never had a 10 sack season and Murphy is not a pass-rusher. You've got to be able to get after QB's and the Bills pass rush looks anemic right now. Dawkins is fine, but Nsheke can't stay healthy and at no point has Ford shown the athleticism to play Tackle in this league. The #1 thing the Bills need to do is to protect that blue chip QB they've been waiting 20 years for and right now they have 1 reliable OT on their roster. And when you only have one good 'backer on your roster, you need another one, no matter what defense you're running. McDermott is good at maximizing his players but when you have real holes in your front 7 and your OLine, I think those are needs to address.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, WorstTEever81 said: I was literally just thinking about his hair and wondering if he keeps it like it's part of his image/brand. He has to know how goofy it looks... it's only second to the Raiders owner. The guy eats like an entire pumpkin pie per day. He's a wacky dude with wacky hair
Prospector Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, dneveu said: The guy eats like an entire pumpkin pie per day. He's a wacky dude with wacky hair He's one of those 'Wild an Crazy Guys'
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Hope they stay put at 54... There will be a quality player there....
Prospector Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Ok, so I am watching the recap of the draft... Steve Smith has got to be either drunk, high, or the dumbest person on TV. Maybe all 3. He was one of my absolute favorite players when he played, but my goodness, he is pure garbage as a commentator. 2
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, HappyDays said: We don't have anyone young to develop behind Feliciano and Spain. Morse with his concussion history could use a young backup as well. It isn't an immediate need but neither is any position. Tyler Biadasz in the third to sit and learn in 2020 and take over from Morse eventually is what I would like to see... 1
Tesla03 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: WR and especially RB...the two positions I don't want them taking in the 2nd. Gimme an Edge rusher, CB, or one of those 'Buffalo Nickel' players (Chinn or Dugger). They need a complementary RB, not a starter. No need for one in the 2nd. They invested ample draft capital in Stefon Diggs. Time to open up the passing attack and get him the ball. yes lets add a 24 year old project Safety/LB to the best secondary in the league and best safety duo in the league total waste of a pick. we spent so much money on the defense in the offseason, this is a make or break year for Allen and a CB or DE isn't going to help him develop. get him more weapons, end of discussion. 1 1 1
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Couldn't disagree more. We need to expand this pathetic 17 pts per game offense. We're not going to do that with any of these overrated 2nd round edge guys. Diggs would be the only defensive guy I'd love at 54. If someone like Dobbins, Taylor, Mims or Claypool are there you go after them depending on Beane's board. Agree 100. Brown and Beasley are nice complimentary receivers. But they were blanketed in many games. Diggs will open things up. But we so need more offense. Tyler Johnson from Minnesota is excellent. Him Mims Claypool Chenault Edwards Swift Taylor Dobbins all would be a big help to the offense. The O line will be good enuf. We can draft a big time O lineman next year in the 1st round. If we really want a big time DE, make a play to sign Clowney after the draft. We have the cap space. A top offensive skill position player gives the team the most value in the 2nd round relative to our needs right now. We don't need a CB 2, DE or OL as much as another gamechanger on offense. 2 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: How far could AJ Epenesa fall? He had a dreadful combine but makes a ton of plays on the field. He whooped the fins new Left tackle in that bowl game.
SCBills Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Simon said: I disagree with all of that. Hughes is undersized and on the wrong side of 30, Addison has never had a 10 sack season and Murphy is not a pass-rusher. You've got to be able to get after QB's and the Bills pass rush looks anemic right now. Dawkins is fine, but Nsheke can't stay healthy and at no point has Ford shown the athleticism to play Tackle in this league. The #1 thing the Bills need to do is to protect that blue chip QB they've been waiting 20 years for and right now they have 1 reliable OT on their roster. And when you only have one good 'backer on your roster, you need another one, no matter what defense you're running. McDermott is good at maximizing his players but when you have real holes in your front 7 and your OLine, I think those are needs to address. Agreed to disagree. You’re usually not finding an OT in the 2nd or 3rd Round that is going to step in and out-play the OT you drafted high last year, who should make a jump in his second year. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t, but the investment has been made in Ford. If we were drafting in the Top 10, sure, absolutely grab an OT. I’ll never whine about us drafting OL, so if they take an OT, so be it, but you’re probably better off looking for G/C’s where we’re drafting this year. We have 5 EDGE players, counting Jefferson. It’s not a need, but can certainly be youth-infused and upgraded. Hughes and Addison are still good players and pass rushers typically play at a high level into their mid 30s. Edmunds/Milano are 3 down LBers. Klein is the other starter. Half the time we have a Secondary player at LB. We also have Matakevich, Joseph, Thompson and Dodson on the roster. I just don’t see how forcing a need pick at non-need positions helps us more than taking a game breaker at WR and RB, or a stud secondary piece. Those are likely the positions that will align with BPA, and if a pass rusher is BPA...awesome, take him. This team should draft BPA all day, because there are no true needs. Edited April 24, 2020 by SCBills 1
hjnick Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: I thought the first round fell really well for the Bills tbh. The biggest needs at Edge, WR, CB, and SAF, RB all have extremely good depth still. We should be able to get a good player regardless of the direction we go in. Just looking at the position of needs there are RB- Dobbins, Taylor, Akers, Swift (4) WR- Shenault, Mims, Pittman, Claypool, Higgins(5) CB- Fulton, Diggs, Jaylon Johnson, Hall, Dantzler(5) Edge- Gross Matos, Epenesa, Weaver, Uche, Okwara(5) SAF- Delpit, Winfield, McKinney, Davis, Chinn, Duggar (6) At positions of need there are 25 guys that could be legitimate options at 54 alone. Meaning we should be able to get a really good player at 54 that they really like. This doesnt even include other positions we could take a guy just because hes too good a player to pass up like Josh Jones OT Houston, Ezra Cleveland OT Boise State, Lloyd Cushenberry OG, Logan Wilson LB Wyoming, Zack Baun LB Wisconsin, Ross Blacklock DT TCU, Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma Should be able to stay at 54 unless they really like a guy on this list that they feel is worthy of trading up for. It will be a longer wait but we are still going to get a really good player. Out of the players you listed I hope Mims, Claypool, Gross Matos, Epenesa, Uche, or Diggs drops to us... The 2nd round tomorrow will be very interesting... 1
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Agree 100. Brown and Beasley are nice complimentary receivers. But they were blanketed in many games. Diggs will open things up. But we so need more offense. Tyler Johnson from Minnesota is excellent. Him Mims Claypool Chenault Edwards Swift Taylor Dobbins all would be a big help to the offense. The O line will be good enuf. We can draft a big time O lineman next year in the 1st round. If we really want a big time DE, make a play to sign Clowney after the draft. We have the cap space. A top offensive skill position player gives the team the most value in the 2nd round relative to our needs right now. We don't need a CB 2, DE or OL as much as another gamechanger on offense. So let me get this straight, it makes more sense to get a 4th WR or a backup RB than a CB2, or a rotational Edge rusher who can possibly slide into Hughes role or Addisons role when they move on which is going to be soon because they're older players. There is no WR we draft that is moving into Diggs, Browns or Beasley's spot. You may find a RB to unseat Singletary but do we want to or do we just want a compliment? The smart money would be to continue to build the offensive and DL, also the corner position. 1
Simon Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: I just don’t see how forcing a need pick at non-need positions helps us more than taking a game breaker at WR and RB, or a stud secondary piece. Those are likely the positions that will align with BPA, and if a pass rusher is BPA...awesome, take him. I'm not pushing for them to force anything, I've always been a BPA guy and still am. I just think we have a couple real issues at critical positions.
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