FireChans Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Rapaport is just throwing out guesses. No he’s not. He literally wrote “sources:” Edited April 22, 2020 by FireChans
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes they do. They don’t get a kickback per se but they do it as a favor and then the team will then give them info to report first down the line. Rap sheet has Beane in his pocket btw. You can tell from the Melvin Gordon stuff. He also has the Chargers. didn’t Beane call out Rapaport for bad reporting during the AB drama? subsequently Rap was proved correct.
thenorthremembers Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: So you think there is truth to this rumour? Miami is trading up for a tackle? Not a QB? So Miami is going to trade up to 3 to take a tackle when only one other team in front of them is tackle needy? 100% bs garbage. A. They dont need to move up to take a tackle B. If they take a tackle before they take a QB, they werent sold enough on the QB to be taking him in the 1st round anyways. Best advice. Dont believe a thing until after the draft is over.
Phil The Thrill Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes they do. They don’t get a kickback per se but they do it as a favor and then the team will then give them info to report first down the line. Rap sheet has Beane in his pocket btw. You can tell from the Melvin Gordon stuff. He also has the Chargers. So you are saying he floated the rumour Bills were in in Gordon when they weren’t?
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: So you are saying he floated the rumour Bills were in in Gordon when they weren’t? No, he said they didn’t make him an offer - actually it was Schefter
Don Otreply Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Any and all statements emanating from all thirty two franchises during the pre draft period are suspect as to their veracity, or in other words, all the teams are lying their azsez off. The reporters report knowing full well a lot of it is purposeful misinformation, Just sayin... Edited April 22, 2020 by Don Otreply
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: didn’t Beane call out Rapaport for bad reporting during the AB drama? subsequently Rap was proved correct. It was Schefter with the Gordon stuff - I get them mixed up
Warcodered Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: No, seriously. It’s legit! Phil saw it! Ghost pirate?
glazeduck Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 I've been told -- from arguably the most well known reporter in sports, personally -- that this happens all the time. 100%.
Phil The Thrill Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: So Miami is going to trade up to 3 to take a tackle when only one other team in front of them is tackle needy? 100% bs garbage. A. They dont need to move up to take a tackle B. If they take a tackle before they take a QB, they werent sold enough on the QB to be taking him in the 1st round anyways. Best advice. Dont believe a thing until after the draft is over. Exactly. As fans we can see this. But a journalist like Rapoport who is “connected” reports this as legit news. WTF? 17 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: No, seriously. It’s legit! Phil saw it! I don’t get your humor, but I assume that this is an insult? 2 minutes ago, glazeduck said: I've been told -- from arguably the most well known reporter in sports, personally -- that this happens all the time. 100%. So are they reporting it as a favor? Or because they are given a kickback? Or both?
glazeduck Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: So are they reporting it as a favor? Or because they are given a kickback? Or both? Don't know about kickback, that seems like it's skirting the edges of ethics probably a little too much. But certainly favors, yes, absolutely. Especially with our current social media attention span, nobody will remember the 20 times they got something "wrong" if they're the first to get something major right. EDIT: I'll also add that this is something that EVERY franchise knows, participates in, and anticipates. Just the nature of the beast. I haven't read the thread but trust me when I say that no team is taking everything being reported -- either publicly or privately -- as gospel truth, and, other than in extremely unlikely circumstances, ever holds any grudges or beefs with this sort of thing. It's just become how the industry works. Edited April 22, 2020 by glazeduck
Phil The Thrill Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Don't know about kickback, that seems like it's skirting the edges of ethics probably a little too much. But certainly favors, yes, absolutely. Especially with our current social media attention span, nobody will remember the 20 times they got something "wrong" if they're the first to get something major right. EDIT: I'll also add that this is something that EVERY franchise knows, participates in, and anticipates. Just the nature of the beast. I haven't read the thread but trust me when I say that no team is taking everything being reported -- either publicly or privately -- as gospel truth, and, other than in extremely unlikely circumstances, ever holds any grudges or beefs with this sort of thing. It's just become how the industry works. When you think of the rumors from last year about the Bills trading up to draft Quinnen Williams, it makes you wonder whether those came from Buffalo to scare NYJ away from taking Ed Oliver.
glazeduck Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: When you think of the rumors from last year about the Bills trading up to draft Quinnen Williams, it makes you wonder whether those came from Buffalo to scare NYJ away from taking Ed Oliver. Considering the fact that the rumors were that we were talking WITH the Jets, I'm not sure that logic flies, but weird stuff happens around now. I think the truth is much closer to us genuinely checking in on what it would cost to make that move, but then I also think Williams is the vastly superior prospect...
FireChans Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: When you think of the rumors from last year about the Bills trading up to draft Quinnen Williams, it makes you wonder whether those came from Buffalo to scare NYJ away from taking Ed Oliver. Close. It was more the Bills not wanting to be jumped by a team who loved Ed. It’s what the Dolphins want too. They don’t want competition for the trade up for a QB, so they say they are taking a tackle. Edited April 22, 2020 by FireChans
Phil The Thrill Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Ghost pirate? What is this supposed to mean? 2 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Considering the fact that the rumors were that we were talking WITH the Jets, I'm not sure that logic flies, but weird stuff happens around now. I think the truth is much closer to us genuinely checking in on what it would cost to make that move, but then I also think Williams is the vastly superior prospect... Oddly enough, it didn’t look like Williams was superior on the field. But maybe that was the injury he suffered
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 To be fair, Joe mentioned agents not teams. Reminiscent of the music industry payola of the 1950s. 1
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