Lurker Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, hjnick said: What is Ford's cap hit? Thx. Cover your eyes... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dee-ford-14432/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lurker said: That's one hell of a cap hit for a LB.... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kwon-alexander-16850/ Spotrac has Matt Milano's at 13 million per. I'm taking Kwon. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-milano-21905/market-value/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) I'd be happy to take on Ford's contract if the 49ers give us #31 (620 JJ chart) and # 176 (21 JJ Chart) in exchange for #54 and #86 (520 JJ chart). Then 49ers will have picks in the top 3 rounds which is what they want. Edited April 20, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I'd be happy to take on Ford's contract if the 49ers give us #30 (620 JJ chart) and # 176 (21 JJ Chart) in exchange for #54 and #86 (520 JJ chart). Then 49ers will have picks in the top 3 rounds which is what they want. 49'ers have pick # 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Very high. $15.9 this year. But next year you can release him and save almost $13 million. So it's basically a 1 year prove it deal. Save $7.5 releasing Murphy. I guess the question is Murphy at half the price a better asset to the Bills? It's possible the answer is yes. Murphy is a role player that does his job. Not much of pass rusher though. 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: Cover your eyes... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dee-ford-14432/ Yikes! Why help SanFran out for signing a terrible contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Spotrac has Matt Milano's at 13 million per. I'm taking Kwon. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-milano-21905/market-value/ Why? Now we'll compare our variables and Milano statistically over the two seasons prior to their signing. In this case we're analyzing: Games Played %, Tackles, Sacks, Stops, Coverage Catch %, Hurries, Rating PLAYER GP% TKL/GM SACKS/GM STOPS COV CATCH% HURRIES RATING MEDIAN PRIME % CHANGE 2.45% AVERAGE PRIME % CHANGE -1.18% Jaylon Smith2017-2018, DAL 100 4.13 0.16 2.19 77.8 0.34 75.85 Anthony Barr2017-2018, MIN 90.63 3.14 0.14 2 78.2 0.9 71.45 Shaq Thompson2017-2018, CAR 87.5 3.25 0.2 1.89 82.9 0.57 66.25 Kwon Alexander 2017-2018, SF 56.3 5.78 0.06 3.67 90.9 0.78 62.3 AVERAGE 83.60 4.08 0.14 2.44 82.45 0.65 68.96 Matt Milano 2018-2019 87.5 4.18 0.09 2.79 69.4 0.57 70.65 % CHANGE 4.67% 2.45% -35.71% 14.34% 15.83% -12.31% 2.45% Edited April 20, 2020 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: 49'ers have pick # 31 Sry. My bad. Thanks for spotting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, IgotBILLStopay said: Sry. My bad. Thanks for spotting it. No problem, and I must say that your trade proposal is intriguing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: Why? Now we'll compare our variables and Milano statistically over the two seasons prior to their signing. In this case we're analyzing: Games Played %, Tackles, Sacks, Stops, Coverage Catch %, Hurries, Rating PLAYER GP% TKL/GM SACKS/GM STOPS COV CATCH% HURRIES RATING MEDIAN PRIME % CHANGE 2.45% AVERAGE PRIME % CHANGE -1.18% Jaylon Smith2017-2018, DAL 100 4.13 0.16 2.19 77.8 0.34 75.85 Anthony Barr2017-2018, MIN 90.63 3.14 0.14 2 78.2 0.9 71.45 Shaq Thompson2017-2018, CAR 87.5 3.25 0.2 1.89 82.9 0.57 66.25 Kwon Alexander 2017-2018, SF 56.3 5.78 0.06 3.67 90.9 0.78 62.3 AVERAGE 83.60 4.08 0.14 2.44 82.45 0.65 68.96 Matt Milano 2018-2019 87.5 4.18 0.09 2.79 69.4 0.57 70.65 % CHANGE 4.67% 2.45% -35.71% 14.34% 15.83% -12.31% 2.45% I'm not sure what those numbers mean, but I do know Kwon has been injured the last couple of years and it seems to skew that score. All I can say is he's just better than Matt, and he is the best linebacker on this list, though it is close with Jaylon Smith. And I love Matt Milano, but Kwon is better. So if we are talking similar salaries, I'd rather pay Kwon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I'm not sure what those numbers mean, but I do know Kwon has been injured the last couple of years and it seems to skew that score. All I can say is he's just better than Matt, and he is the best linebacker on this list, though it is close with Jaylon Smith. And I love Matt Milano, but Kwon is better. So if we are talking similar salaries, I'd rather pay Kwon. As many people say, the greatest ability is availability. Alexander 56.3% game played percentage has to be balanced against Milano's 87.5% availability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lurker said: As many people say, the greatest ability is availability. Alexander 56.3% game played percentage has to be balanced against Milano's 87.5% availability... That is definitely true, but I would still take Kwon if the contracts are equal. If Milano comes in closer to 8-9 million, then I'd take him. Both great players, but if SF wants chump change for a guy like Alexander, I am good with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, WorstTEever81 said: and Marquise... could be a good spell break for John Brown We have seen his act...brittle and can't be on the field enoough.....no return for M Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I'm not sure what those numbers mean, but I do know Kwon has been injured the last couple of years and it seems to skew that score. All I can say is he's just better than Matt, and he is the best linebacker on this list, though it is close with Jaylon Smith. And I love Matt Milano, but Kwon is better. So if we are talking similar salaries, I'd rather pay Kwon. You’d rather pay the guy that never plays. Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Spotrac has Matt Milano's at 13 million per. I'm taking Kwon. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-milano-21905/market-value/ I like the fire that Milano plays with, but if he won't settle for $6.5M he can go play for the Dolphins. 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: You’d rather pay the guy that never plays. Makes sense By never plays meaning he tore an ACL 6 games into the season and then a pectoral the next. It's not like Will Fuller's perpetually pulled hamstring or Percy Harvin's migraines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Penalty: lined up in the neutral zone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I'm not sure what those numbers mean, but I do know Kwon has been injured the last couple of years and it seems to skew that score. All I can say is he's just better than Matt, and he is the best linebacker on this list, though it is close with Jaylon Smith. And I love Matt Milano, but Kwon is better. So if we are talking similar salaries, I'd rather pay Kwon. Things arent equal though as you wont have to give up a draft pick for Milano .... also suspect Milano signs a cheaper deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Let them drown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Things arent equal though as you wont have to give up a draft pick for Milano .... also suspect Milano signs a cheaper deal... I hope he does as well. I like the idea of keeping homegrown guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: You’d rather pay the guy that never plays. Makes sense I’ll say this, if he was playing, and as you noted, that’s a big if, he’s totally takling Deshaun Watson at the end of that playoff game. He’s just better. But he has been hurt. I’d rather have a somewhat risky, but elite player in Kwon, who I have to give up a pick for at 13 million than pay Milano 13 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hard no on cap clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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